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Anonymous wrote:The vaccine deniers are data deniers. And the ones claiming the vaccines are dangerous are straight-up deranged and delusional. The vaccines absolutely did save millions of lives.

KXCD:

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Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

This old trope is stupid!

Two of my family members got polio in the 1930s. Nutrition and sanitation were fine in their home.

I'm a pediatrician. One of my colleagues with a limp just retired.

His mother just missed getting him his firs polio vaccine before he caught it.

MAGA don't need no schoolin!

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Anonymous wrote:The vaccine deniers are data deniers. And the ones claiming the vaccines are dangerous are straight-up deranged and delusional. The vaccines absolutely did save millions of lives.

KXCD:

Thank you for these posts. The vaccine did just what it was supposed to.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

So now we are going to question germ theory?

How about besides home schooling your kids, you home treat your family members when they get sick. Just pray over them, that should work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The vaccine deniers are data deniers. And the ones claiming the vaccines are dangerous are straight-up deranged and delusional. The vaccines absolutely did save millions of lives.

Too funny. By your own definitions all those nursing home residents were unvaccinated for this time period.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

Trump wants to send us back to ancient history, getting rid of vaccines that helped treat things that historically killed millions, like measles, influenza, polio, and so on. Trump is gutting the EPA which gives us clean, safe water to drink, gutting FDA and consumer product safety agencies which help ensure the food we eat is safe and that the products we use are safe, he's gutting the CDC which helps prevent the spread of diseases, he's gutting worker safety and everything else. Open your damn eyes. He's making us into a primitive third world nation that doesn't have any of those things you take for granted.

Bolded above — nope you are wrong. . Trumps words, what he actually believes:

“You have some vaccines that are so incredible. And I think you have to be very careful when you say that some people don’t have to be vaccinated. It’s a tough stance. Look, you have vaccines that work… They’re not controversial at all. And I think those vaccines should be used”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/09/06/vaccine-school-mandate-measles-polio-flu-covid/

Let’s stick to the facts please.

Does this matter if Trump's HHS Secretary does not believe this and Trump is letting him do whatever he wants?

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Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

So now we are going to question germ theory?

How about besides home schooling your kids, you home treat your family members when they get sick. Just pray over them, that should work.

These are the type of replies that just cement the fact that vaccination is not a medical treatment, but a sacrament. You act like I just questioned the value of baptism or something.

Its all or nothing for you people. You can't treat vaccines like a knee-replacement, or any other medical treatment. No one must be allowed to make a risk-reward calculation. Its take the shots (all of them) or be excommunicated by the science.

No one wishes passive-aggressive death upon strangers because they declined rotator-cuff surgery or a statin.

You are f’ing crazy. No antibiotics for you or your family..

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Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

So now we are going to question germ theory?

How about besides home schooling your kids, you home treat your family members when they get sick. Just pray over them, that should work.

These are the type of replies that just cement the fact that vaccination is not a medical treatment, but a sacrament. You act like I just questioned the value of baptism or something.

Its all or nothing for you people. You can't treat vaccines like a knee-replacement, or any other medical treatment. No one must be allowed to make a risk-reward calculation. Its take the shots (all of them) or be excommunicated by the science.

No one wishes passive-aggressive death upon strangers because they declined rotator-cuff surgery or a statin.

I’m sorry… are bad knees highly contagious?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

So now we are going to question germ theory?

How about besides home schooling your kids, you home treat your family members when they get sick. Just pray over them, that should work.

These are the type of replies that just cement the fact that vaccination is not a medical treatment, but a sacrament. You act like I just questioned the value of baptism or something.

Its all or nothing for you people. You can't treat vaccines like a knee-replacement, or any other medical treatment. No one must be allowed to make a risk-reward calculation. Its take the shots (all of them) or be excommunicated by the science.

No one wishes passive-aggressive death upon strangers because they declined rotator-cuff surgery or a statin.

I’m sorry… are bad knees highly contagious?

They think abortions are contagious, so sure, why not. The idiocy is appalling.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

So now we are going to question germ theory?

How about besides home schooling your kids, you home treat your family members when they get sick. Just pray over them, that should work.

These are the type of replies that just cement the fact that vaccination is not a medical treatment, but a sacrament. You act like I just questioned the value of baptism or something.

Its all or nothing for you people. You can't treat vaccines like a knee-replacement, or any other medical treatment. No one must be allowed to make a risk-reward calculation. Its take the shots (all of them) or be excommunicated by the science.

No one wishes passive-aggressive death upon strangers because they declined rotator-cuff surgery or a statin.

I’m sorry… are bad knees highly contagious?

About as contagious as Polio in a country with indoor plumbing and toilet paper.

We also live in a world where stuff like this happens: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/new-california-law-reduces-penalty-knowingly-exposing-someone-hiv-n809416

So trust in your vaccine, if you have sufficient faith.

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Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

So now we are going to question germ theory?

How about besides home schooling your kids, you home treat your family members when they get sick. Just pray over them, that should work.

These are the type of replies that just cement the fact that vaccination is not a medical treatment, but a sacrament. You act like I just questioned the value of baptism or something.

Its all or nothing for you people. You can't treat vaccines like a knee-replacement, or any other medical treatment. No one must be allowed to make a risk-reward calculation. Its take the shots (all of them) or be excommunicated by the science.

No one wishes passive-aggressive death upon strangers because they declined rotator-cuff surgery or a statin.

I’m sorry… are bad knees highly contagious?

About as contagious as Polio in a country with indoor plumbing and toilet paper.

We also live in a world where stuff like this happens: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/new-california-law-reduces-penalty-knowingly-exposing-someone-hiv-n809416

So trust in your vaccine, if you have sufficient faith.

Poliovirus is very contagious. Poliovirus only infects people, entering the body through the mouth. It lives in an infected person's throat and intestines and spreads through person-to-person contact. It can also contaminate food and water in unsanitary conditions.

You can get polio from:
- Contact with the feces (poop) of an infected person
- Droplets from a sneeze or cough of an infected person (less common)

For example, you can get polio if you:
- Eat raw or undercooked food or drink water or other drinks that are contaminated with the feces of an infected person.
- Put a contaminated object such as a toy in your mouth.
- Touch a contaminated object and put your fingers in your mouth.
- Have close contact with a person sick with polio, for example when caring for them.

https://www.cdc.gov/polio/about/index.html

Entire cruise ships go down with norovirus. Rotavirus shut down half of my pediatric residency inpatient service. Influenza is passed around via droplet spread every year.

What is wrong with you?

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Why is he always look so dirty?

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It's the stained soul.

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I finally understand what George Carlin meant when he said..“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

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Anonymous wrote:The vaccine deniers are data deniers. And the ones claiming the vaccines are dangerous are straight-up deranged and delusional. The vaccines absolutely did save millions of lives.

Too funny. By your own definitions all those nursing home residents were unvaccinated for this time period.

Learn how to read a graph. It clearly shows that death toll started dropping off the minute nursing home residents started getting vaccines.