As a Jew, I’m terrified

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Anonymous wrote:Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

Most older Jews have strong feelings about Israel because they have personal ties to the Holocaust, and before that shtetls in Europe, and after that general antisemitism like not allowing Jews to live in certain neighborhoods, join clubs, etc... This is why support for Israel is greater in older generations of Jews (as well as older politicians like Biden). Younger Jews have not grown up with much antisemitism. It is not because we want to "be with our kind," although I suppose most ethnic groups like this sometimes. It is based in fear and distrust of non-Jews based on history.

Viewing this from a modern day secular nonjewish lens could appear as ethnocentrism and only some ethnicities are allowed to practice this.

I don't really know what that means. I'm just telling you what a lot of older Jews feel. I am a young gen x Jew and my feelings about Israel tend to be unusually critical for the people my age I know. But more on track with millennial Jews. My gen z daughter has zero feelings of interest in Israel, but admittedly I did not encourage or discourage them.

If a white Christian walks around stating that they are a very proud anglo saxon and they support an all white all Christian state, what would happen? O have witnessed this with jewish Americans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

Most older Jews have strong feelings about Israel because they have personal ties to the Holocaust, and before that shtetls in Europe, and after that general antisemitism like not allowing Jews to live in certain neighborhoods, join clubs, etc... This is why support for Israel is greater in older generations of Jews (as well as older politicians like Biden). Younger Jews have not grown up with much antisemitism. It is not because we want to "be with our kind," although I suppose most ethnic groups like this sometimes. It is based in fear and distrust of non-Jews based on history.

Viewing this from a modern day secular nonjewish lens could appear as ethnocentrism and only some ethnicities are allowed to practice this.

I don't really know what that means. I'm just telling you what a lot of older Jews feel. I am a young gen x Jew and my feelings about Israel tend to be unusually critical for the people my age I know. But more on track with millennial Jews. My gen z daughter has zero feelings of interest in Israel, but admittedly I did not encourage or discourage them.

If a white Christian walks around stating that they are a very proud anglo saxon and they support an all white all Christian state, what would happen? O have witnessed this with jewish Americans.

You really don't see the difference here? Because the difference is illustrated exactly by you're trying to prove. It's creepy when white Christian people do it because they are the dominant group, certainly in America. Also, there is kind of a big history of Christian people trying to take over. I'd argue they are trying to do it right now in America. Some people are specifically angry with Jews because they no longer perceive them as a marginalized group. They see them as a group with power and influence that has been very successful in the US.

The ostensible reason Jews wanted their own country was not because they thought they were better than anyone. Jews also do not proselytize. They wanted safety.

However, when Jewish zealots become the dominant group, they are just as likely as any other zealots to try and take control. You can see this in some of the ultra orthodox communities that defunded public schools or try to police non Jews living in an area. Honestly, to me, those Jews are as bas as the Christian Nationalists who are taking over our government. There just happen to be A LOT fewer crazy religious Jews than crazy religious Christians.

It is the crazy religious people of all groups who tend to cause the most problems.

I say I am proud of being Jewish. I value my ancestors' history and the values I was taught growing up Jewish. I think parts of the religion and culture are beautiful. But I don't think I'm better than anyone else who is a non-Jew. My husband isn't Jewish.

The major problem with Israel is that it wants to be a country FOR Jews, but that is untenable when other groups also want that land and those groups will outnumber Jews. I do not know why people did not realize this would always be an issue. I wasn't alive when Israel was created.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

Probably not a good idea for a government agency to express concern and sympathy for a country that is engaged in conflict with the United States.

Has nothing to do with Jews or Israel—all about America. The fact that you connect the issue to Jews graphically illustrates the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

Most older Jews have strong feelings about Israel because they have personal ties to the Holocaust, and before that shtetls in Europe, and after that general antisemitism like not allowing Jews to live in certain neighborhoods, join clubs, etc... This is why support for Israel is greater in older generations of Jews (as well as older politicians like Biden). Younger Jews have not grown up with much antisemitism. It is not because we want to "be with our kind," although I suppose most ethnic groups like this sometimes. It is based in fear and distrust of non-Jews based on history.

Viewing this from a modern day secular nonjewish lens could appear as ethnocentrism and only some ethnicities are allowed to practice this.

I don't really know what that means. I'm just telling you what a lot of older Jews feel. I am a young gen x Jew and my feelings about Israel tend to be unusually critical for the people my age I know. But more on track with millennial Jews. My gen z daughter has zero feelings of interest in Israel, but admittedly I did not encourage or discourage them.

If a white Christian walks around stating that they are a very proud anglo saxon and they support an all white all Christian state, what would happen? O have witnessed this with jewish Americans.

You really don't see the difference here? Because the difference is illustrated exactly by you're trying to prove. It's creepy when white Christian people do it because they are the dominant group, certainly in America. Also, there is kind of a big history of Christian people trying to take over. I'd argue they are trying to do it right now in America. Some people are specifically angry with Jews because they no longer perceive them as a marginalized group. They see them as a group with power and influence that has been very successful in the US.

The ostensible reason Jews wanted their own country was not because they thought they were better than anyone. Jews also do not proselytize. They wanted safety.

However, when Jewish zealots become the dominant group, they are just as likely as any other zealots to try and take control. You can see this in some of the ultra orthodox communities that defunded public schools or try to police non Jews living in an area. Honestly, to me, those Jews are as bas as the Christian Nationalists who are taking over our government. There just happen to be A LOT fewer crazy religious Jews than crazy religious Christians.

It is the crazy religious people of all groups who tend to cause the most problems.

I say I am proud of being Jewish. I value my ancestors' history and the values I was taught growing up Jewish. I think parts of the religion and culture are beautiful. But I don't think I'm better than anyone else who is a non-Jew. My husband isn't Jewish.

The major problem with Israel is that it wants to be a country FOR Jews, but that is untenable when other groups also want that land and those groups will outnumber Jews. I do not know why people did not realize this would always be an issue. I wasn't alive when Israel was created.

The difference is generally that minority groups are not ostracized for being proud and somewhat ethnocentric, while the majority and/or white Christians are made to feel ashamed or ‘creepy’ as you put it for being proud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

Most older Jews have strong feelings about Israel because they have personal ties to the Holocaust, and before that shtetls in Europe, and after that general antisemitism like not allowing Jews to live in certain neighborhoods, join clubs, etc... This is why support for Israel is greater in older generations of Jews (as well as older politicians like Biden). Younger Jews have not grown up with much antisemitism. It is not because we want to "be with our kind," although I suppose most ethnic groups like this sometimes. It is based in fear and distrust of non-Jews based on history.

That surprises me somewhat. Most of the older Jews I know or knew were politically very liberal, had issues with Israel and its domination by conservative religious Jews, and were not very religious. The type who loved a knish and spoke a smattering of Yiddish Jews but didn’t know most of the holidays. The younger Jews I know are much more observant and tend more towards Zionism, although most don’t think much of Netanyahu. I’m not Jewish but most of my friends and colleagues are, and a chunk of my family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

The majority of Jews in the US hate people like Laura Loomer and Ben Shapiro. Those people speak for REPUBLICANS. Not for Jews.

THIS THIS THIS THIS

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Anonymous wrote:I mean historically women, children, brown skinned people, disabled, autistic, lgbtq, have been crucified. What should we do about this? Should each of these categories have their own safe spaces somewhere? Are these groups treated well compared to jewish people in the US?

Did you know!! Jews can be women, children, brown skinned, disabled, lgbtq, and autistic!!

Yes but if we categorize people only based on the above in the current US. It varies, a white jewish man would probably be safer in the inner city at night than a a small autistic white woman correct? Or no? How about a black man verses a white jewish woman in rural white Alabama?

I have no idea what point you are trying to make and not sure I care to figure it out.

Point is that in most settings, most jewish americans appear to be white people, even if they wear a star of David, they are viewed by many as white people. White appearing men, jewish men, don’t strike me as being targets for violent crimes.

Or I should clarify, as far as being targets for violent crimes white american jewish bros tend to be very low risk I would think compared to other groups.

You would think. But you would be wrong, as has been made clear multiple times in this thread. The actual cold hard facts/statistics bear out that Jews are more likely to be victims of hate crimes than members of other groups. And I’m not talking about “criticism of Israel.” That is not a hate crime or a crime of any kind, and the FBI is certainly not categorizing it as such.

Idk why this is so hard for people to grasp. Yes, it may be a harder to immediately discern when someone is Jewish as opposed to black, Asian, etc. But that doesn’t mean Jews are safe or that it’s impossible to target them unless they stand in the middle of the street wearing an “I’m a Jew” sign. Literally millions of Jews were slaughtered despite many of them trying to actively conceal/disavow their identities. And that was in the 1940s!! Before DNA testing, AI, widespread surveillance, total loss of privacy online, all our personal info being stored in databases, etc. And that’s if all Jews go underground and cease to engage in any public expression of their religion whatsoever.

Right. But the kind of antisemitism Jews are dealing with today is not that kind of antisemitism. The GOVERNMENT IS doing and/or trying to do that kind of stuff to some groups--some of whom also happen to be Jewish. But our government is not targeting Jewish people. In fact, as much as I hate our current government and think most of the things they're doing in the name of protecting Jews is complete BS and really just trying to stick it to liberal institutions, you could more argue that they are trying to protect Jews.

The kind of antisemitism Jews are dealing with today is 1. Small number of extremists/crazy people etc.... and 2. Larger group of people who have developed (or always had) negative feelings toward Jews. But that mostly comes out online.

I’m not sure I understand your point. You think only governments can leverage technology to target Jews? It wasn’t the government that hacked 23andMe and targeted the data of Ashkenazi Jews. I also wouldn’t say that antisemitism is limited to a small number of crazies/extremists (simply scroll through this thread if you need proof). Furthermore, a government that’s tolerant to Jews one day can become intolerant the next (ask me how I know - I’m an Iranian Jew).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I mean historically women, children, brown skinned people, disabled, autistic, lgbtq, have been crucified. What should we do about this? Should each of these categories have their own safe spaces somewhere? Are these groups treated well compared to jewish people in the US?

Did you know!! Jews can be women, children, brown skinned, disabled, lgbtq, and autistic!!

Yes but if we categorize people only based on the above in the current US. It varies, a white jewish man would probably be safer in the inner city at night than a a small autistic white woman correct? Or no? How about a black man verses a white jewish woman in rural white Alabama?

I have no idea what point you are trying to make and not sure I care to figure it out.

Point is that in most settings, most jewish americans appear to be white people, even if they wear a star of David, they are viewed by many as white people. White appearing men, jewish men, don’t strike me as being targets for violent crimes.

Or I should clarify, as far as being targets for violent crimes white american jewish bros tend to be very low risk I would think compared to other groups.

You would think. But you would be wrong, as has been made clear multiple times in this thread. The actual cold hard facts/statistics bear out that Jews are more likely to be victims of hate crimes than members of other groups. And I’m not talking about “criticism of Israel.” That is not a hate crime or a crime of any kind, and the FBI is certainly not categorizing it as such.

Idk why this is so hard for people to grasp. Yes, it may be a harder to immediately discern when someone is Jewish as opposed to black, Asian, etc. But that doesn’t mean Jews are safe or that it’s impossible to target them unless they stand in the middle of the street wearing an “I’m a Jew” sign. Literally millions of Jews were slaughtered despite many of them trying to actively conceal/disavow their identities. And that was in the 1940s!! Before DNA testing, AI, widespread surveillance, total loss of privacy online, all our personal info being stored in databases, etc. And that’s if all Jews go underground and cease to engage in any public expression of their religion whatsoever.

Right. But the kind of antisemitism Jews are dealing with today is not that kind of antisemitism. The GOVERNMENT IS doing and/or trying to do that kind of stuff to some groups--some of whom also happen to be Jewish. But our government is not targeting Jewish people. In fact, as much as I hate our current government and think most of the things they're doing in the name of protecting Jews is complete BS and really just trying to stick it to liberal institutions, you could more argue that they are trying to protect Jews.

The kind of antisemitism Jews are dealing with today is 1. Small number of extremists/crazy people etc.... and 2. Larger group of people who have developed (or always had) negative feelings toward Jews. But that mostly comes out online.

Not yet, but once the J6 ICE incels are done with the Latinos, you can bet the Jews will be next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

Most older Jews have strong feelings about Israel because they have personal ties to the Holocaust, and before that shtetls in Europe, and after that general antisemitism like not allowing Jews to live in certain neighborhoods, join clubs, etc... This is why support for Israel is greater in older generations of Jews (as well as older politicians like Biden). Younger Jews have not grown up with much antisemitism. It is not because we want to "be with our kind," although I suppose most ethnic groups like this sometimes. It is based in fear and distrust of non-Jews based on history.

Viewing this from a modern day secular nonjewish lens could appear as ethnocentrism and only some ethnicities are allowed to practice this.

I don't really know what that means. I'm just telling you what a lot of older Jews feel. I am a young gen x Jew and my feelings about Israel tend to be unusually critical for the people my age I know. But more on track with millennial Jews. My gen z daughter has zero feelings of interest in Israel, but admittedly I did not encourage or discourage them.

If a white Christian walks around stating that they are a very proud anglo saxon and they support an all white all Christian state, what would happen? O have witnessed this with jewish Americans.

You really don't see the difference here? Because the difference is illustrated exactly by you're trying to prove. It's creepy when white Christian people do it because they are the dominant group, certainly in America. Also, there is kind of a big history of Christian people trying to take over. I'd argue they are trying to do it right now in America. Some people are specifically angry with Jews because they no longer perceive them as a marginalized group. They see them as a group with power and influence that has been very successful in the US.

The ostensible reason Jews wanted their own country was not because they thought they were better than anyone. Jews also do not proselytize. They wanted safety.

However, when Jewish zealots become the dominant group, they are just as likely as any other zealots to try and take control. You can see this in some of the ultra orthodox communities that defunded public schools or try to police non Jews living in an area. Honestly, to me, those Jews are as bas as the Christian Nationalists who are taking over our government. There just happen to be A LOT fewer crazy religious Jews than crazy religious Christians.

It is the crazy religious people of all groups who tend to cause the most problems.

I say I am proud of being Jewish. I value my ancestors' history and the values I was taught growing up Jewish. I think parts of the religion and culture are beautiful. But I don't think I'm better than anyone else who is a non-Jew. My husband isn't Jewish.

The major problem with Israel is that it wants to be a country FOR Jews, but that is untenable when other groups also want that land and those groups will outnumber Jews. I do not know why people did not realize this would always be an issue. I wasn't alive when Israel was created.

Which is where Marx and the whole 'opiate of the people' thing makes perfect sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the record I don’t agree with any of this — not what Israel is doing in Gaza and certainly not what’s happening in Iran. But, I fear how much I and all other American Jews are going to face even more antisemitism and retribution because of today’s actions. And I’m terrified.

We don’t worry because we don’t belong to any synagogues or go to demonstrations. But there hasn’t been anything major in terms of people getting killed. You should worry more about Israelis and Palestinians. They are in real danger.

DP

Sure.

But Iran has been funding terror groups in multiple regions for quite some time. There are consequences for such things.

And now that the US has been dragged into it, it’s reasonable to worry about America and Americans—whether on American soil or abroad.

I wonder how Trump will navigate this…

While he’s big on retribution, he and his advisors probably didn’t see this coming.

You mean Moe,Larry and Curley? No those fools from FOX fired the competent generals hence good luck maga your white boys are gonna be drafted to another meaningless war

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

Probably not a good idea for a government agency to express concern and sympathy for a country that is engaged in conflict with the United States.

Has nothing to do with Jews or Israel—all about America. The fact that you connect the issue to Jews graphically illustrates the problem.

They were not expressing sympathy for Iran. They were expressing sympathy for Persians in the Los Angeles region. There is kinda a difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

Most older Jews have strong feelings about Israel because they have personal ties to the Holocaust, and before that shtetls in Europe, and after that general antisemitism like not allowing Jews to live in certain neighborhoods, join clubs, etc... This is why support for Israel is greater in older generations of Jews (as well as older politicians like Biden). Younger Jews have not grown up with much antisemitism. It is not because we want to "be with our kind," although I suppose most ethnic groups like this sometimes. It is based in fear and distrust of non-Jews based on history.

Viewing this from a modern day secular nonjewish lens could appear as ethnocentrism and only some ethnicities are allowed to practice this.

I don't really know what that means. I'm just telling you what a lot of older Jews feel. I am a young gen x Jew and my feelings about Israel tend to be unusually critical for the people my age I know. But more on track with millennial Jews. My gen z daughter has zero feelings of interest in Israel, but admittedly I did not encourage or discourage them.

If a white Christian walks around stating that they are a very proud anglo saxon and they support an all white all Christian state, what would happen? O have witnessed this with jewish Americans.

You really don't see the difference here? Because the difference is illustrated exactly by you're trying to prove. It's creepy when white Christian people do it because they are the dominant group, certainly in America. Also, there is kind of a big history of Christian people trying to take over. I'd argue they are trying to do it right now in America. Some people are specifically angry with Jews because they no longer perceive them as a marginalized group. They see them as a group with power and influence that has been very successful in the US.

The ostensible reason Jews wanted their own country was not because they thought they were better than anyone. Jews also do not proselytize. They wanted safety.

However, when Jewish zealots become the dominant group, they are just as likely as any other zealots to try and take control. You can see this in some of the ultra orthodox communities that defunded public schools or try to police non Jews living in an area. Honestly, to me, those Jews are as bas as the Christian Nationalists who are taking over our government. There just happen to be A LOT fewer crazy religious Jews than crazy religious Christians.

It is the crazy religious people of all groups who tend to cause the most problems.

I say I am proud of being Jewish. I value my ancestors' history and the values I was taught growing up Jewish. I think parts of the religion and culture are beautiful. But I don't think I'm better than anyone else who is a non-Jew. My husband isn't Jewish.

The major problem with Israel is that it wants to be a country FOR Jews, but that is untenable when other groups also want that land and those groups will outnumber Jews. I do not know why people did not realize this would always be an issue. I wasn't alive when Israel was created.

The difference is generally that minority groups are not ostracized for being proud and somewhat ethnocentric, while the majority and/or white Christians are made to feel ashamed or ‘creepy’ as you put it for being proud.

There is a difference between being a proud Christian (good) and imposing Christian morals and values on others (bad)

Right now, we are seeing a lot more of the latter and there is a growing backlash which won't be pretty.



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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Jews gravitate towards and support Israel because they want a designated nation to be with their own kind. There exists a kinship like none other. This is somewhat insulting to the rest of us out here in the diaspora. We welcome you but you still feel stronger ties to your own kind. Other ethnicities are called racists and bigots for similar ethnocentric beliefs.

Most older Jews have strong feelings about Israel because they have personal ties to the Holocaust, and before that shtetls in Europe, and after that general antisemitism like not allowing Jews to live in certain neighborhoods, join clubs, etc... This is why support for Israel is greater in older generations of Jews (as well as older politicians like Biden). Younger Jews have not grown up with much antisemitism. It is not because we want to "be with our kind," although I suppose most ethnic groups like this sometimes. It is based in fear and distrust of non-Jews based on history.

Viewing this from a modern day secular nonjewish lens could appear as ethnocentrism and only some ethnicities are allowed to practice this.

I don't really know what that means. I'm just telling you what a lot of older Jews feel. I am a young gen x Jew and my feelings about Israel tend to be unusually critical for the people my age I know. But more on track with millennial Jews. My gen z daughter has zero feelings of interest in Israel, but admittedly I did not encourage or discourage them.

If a white Christian walks around stating that they are a very proud anglo saxon and they support an all white all Christian state, what would happen? O have witnessed this with jewish Americans.

The US was founded on religious freedom
Your white Christian nationalist can shove it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

Probably not a good idea for a government agency to express concern and sympathy for a country that is engaged in conflict with the United States.

Has nothing to do with Jews or Israel—all about America. The fact that you connect the issue to Jews graphically illustrates the problem.

BINGO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the issue in a nutshell …

The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was forced to issue an apology recently after a benign tweet expressing concern for the victims and families of the recent war initiated against Iran, and indicating that they are working with partner agencies to monitor the situation locally to ensure the safety of the residents served by their department.

Los Angeles happens to be home to the largest population of Iranian emigres in the U.S., so the tweet made sense from a community awareness perspective. As a point of reference, the same agency has also tweeted (dozens of times over the past two years) expressing similar thoughts and concerns regarding the area’s Jewish community.

But of course … of course … of course … the AIPAC / ADL / Betar / Canary Mission / Laura Loomer / Ben Shapiro / Mark Levin / corrupted members of Congress dream team immediately sprung into action to demand a retraction and apology, with critics focused on the post’s insensitivity to Israel’s interests.

Ultimately, I fail to see how peace is achievable when the interests of one small group continue to be forced center stage at every juncture. And as long as that lack of peace continues, unfortunately, I suspect that individuals like the OP will likely continue to experience some level of fear - through no fault of their own. And that sucks.

The majority of Jews in the US hate people like Laura Loomer and Ben Shapiro. Those people speak for REPUBLICANS. Not for Jews.

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