King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?

Five years. They are going to have to renovate inside and out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just because many FCPS families are entitled jerks doesn’t mean this wasn’t a good acquisition for FCPS. This fills a long term need and the details will be worked out and people will whine and complain and accuse and I hope we just ignore them.

I’d be thrilled, too, if FCPS just tossed the CIP aside and said they were going to spend $150-250M in my neighborhood that we’d previously been told couldn’t happen for many years because there isn’t enough money.

I knew it, jealous mommies spewing their BS.

As opposed to the grifters.

-DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does this further prove that the maps are done and have this new high school in the maps? Obviously they knew about this just like maps are likely done and Reid knows what she wants.

Not at all. This property was unexpectedly up for sale and they wisely went for it. It is separate from the review and they will have to accommodate it now.

They still had us go through with the public meetings this past month knowing that they were going to upset the apple cart with this.

Somewhere a Thru consultant is weeping as they wade through all the obsolete Emerald Chase comments.

This wins the quote of the day award.

[Anonymous]

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All of Floris, McNair, and Fox Mill go to Carson. Most of Coates and Crossfield go there, along with a small part of Oak Hill (rest of Oak Hill goes to Franklin).

The people who are being really aggressive on the topic seem to be Crossfield folks insisting that they'll have dibs on the new school.

I don't think anyone has "dibs."

The Crossfield folks currently go to Oakton --which is a very long way.
Chantilly (while projected to lose membership) is the school that needs relief.

I could see Fox Mill staying with South Lakes. South Lakes is not going to want to give them up.

Crossfield is an anomaly in that much of its population lives closer to other elementary schools, but those are neighborhood elementary schools and Franklin Farm and the surrounding neighborhoods east of Fairfax County Parkway don't have a neighborhood elementary school, so they got placed in Crossfield which is on a busy road without much of a neighborhood surrounding it (except for the one that doesn't want to be there, LOL). Those neighborhoods are much closer to this new school than any other high school in the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious the old boundary process will be completely scrapped and a new one started for this new high school. My guess they will target plus/minus 2,500 students for the new school.

FCPS could look to MCPS for how they are doing the boundaries for all the new high schools opening up there.

The boundary process can stay in tact for the eastern part of the county that wouldn't be impacted. This impacts Chantilly, Westfield, Oakton, South Lakes, and maybe also Herndon and Centerville pyramids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

All of Floris, McNair, and Fox Mill go to Carson. Most of Coates and Crossfield go there, along with a small part of Oak Hill (rest of Oak Hill goes to Franklin).

The people who are being really aggressive on the topic seem to be Crossfield folks insisting that they'll have dibs on the new school.

I don't think anyone has "dibs."

The Crossfield folks currently go to Oakton --which is a very long way.
Chantilly (while projected to lose membership) is the school that needs relief.

I could see Fox Mill staying with South Lakes. South Lakes is not going to want to give them up.

Fox Mill attends Carson, which will be next to the new HS. It makes sense for Fox Mill to attend the new HS.

And yes, I am a Fox Mill parent who doesn't like IB and doesn't want to move to Hughes. Moving the Carson base school students into the new HS would make sense. It ends the split feeder problem at Carson and the distances work for the Carson base schools kids. SLHS doesn't lose that many students because Fox Mill is a small number of the kids. Not to mention, a good number of the Fox Mill family's pupil place to AP schools because they don't want IB. The number of pupil departures are hidden by the Herndon kids who move to SLHS for IB because they don't want to be at Herndon.

You don't know that the new high school won't be IB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

All of Floris, McNair, and Fox Mill go to Carson. Most of Coates and Crossfield go there, along with a small part of Oak Hill (rest of Oak Hill goes to Franklin).

The people who are being really aggressive on the topic seem to be Crossfield folks insisting that they'll have dibs on the new school.

I don't think anyone has "dibs."

The Crossfield folks currently go to Oakton --which is a very long way.
Chantilly (while projected to lose membership) is the school that needs relief.

I could see Fox Mill staying with South Lakes. South Lakes is not going to want to give them up.

Fox Mill attends Carson, which will be next to the new HS. It makes sense for Fox Mill to attend the new HS.

And yes, I am a Fox Mill parent who doesn't like IB and doesn't want to move to Hughes. Moving the Carson base school students into the new HS would make sense. It ends the split feeder problem at Carson and the distances work for the Carson base schools kids. SLHS doesn't lose that many students because Fox Mill is a small number of the kids. Not to mention, a good number of the Fox Mill family's pupil place to AP schools because they don't want IB. The number of pupil departures are hidden by the Herndon kids who move to SLHS for IB because they don't want to be at Herndon.

You don't know that the new high school won't be IB.

I would be shocked if the new HS is IB. Some where around 300 kids complete the IB diploma every year across the county. I think more kids pupil place out of IB then complete the degree. It is an expensive program that people are not interested in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

All of Floris, McNair, and Fox Mill go to Carson. Most of Coates and Crossfield go there, along with a small part of Oak Hill (rest of Oak Hill goes to Franklin).

The people who are being really aggressive on the topic seem to be Crossfield folks insisting that they'll have dibs on the new school.

I don't think anyone has "dibs."

The Crossfield folks currently go to Oakton --which is a very long way.
Chantilly (while projected to lose membership) is the school that needs relief.

I could see Fox Mill staying with South Lakes. South Lakes is not going to want to give them up.

Crossfield is an anomaly in that much of its population lives closer to other elementary schools, but those are neighborhood elementary schools and Franklin Farm and the surrounding neighborhoods east of Fairfax County Parkway don't have a neighborhood elementary school, so they got placed in Crossfield which is on a busy road without much of a neighborhood surrounding it (except for the one that doesn't want to be there, LOL). Those neighborhoods are much closer to this new school than any other high school in the area.

There was a lot of talk about the Sully district being sent to Oakton during last nights discussion, so I can’t imagine a scenario that doesn’t place Crossfield at either the new school, or less likely, South Lakes. I’m guessing the new school will include Coates, McNair, Floris, and then some combination of Oak Hill, Fox Mill, or Crossfield. If it’s Oak Hill and Fox Mill, then Crossfield would be sent to South Lakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious the old boundary process will be completely scrapped and a new one started for this new high school. My guess they will target plus/minus 2,500 students for the new school.

FCPS could look to MCPS for how they are doing the boundaries for all the new high schools opening up there.

The boundary process can stay in tact for the eastern part of the county that wouldn't be impacted. This impacts Chantilly, Westfield, Oakton, South Lakes, and maybe also Herndon and Centerville pyramids.

While folks in the eastern part of the county won't be redistricted to the new high school, they are claiming they will save hundreds of millions by purchasing this property.

I'd like to see how they might put some of those savings to use renovating and/or expanding schools in eastern Fairfax first before they move kids in that part of the county.

Right now it's looking like western Fairfax gets expanded schools + a brand-new school while eastern Fairfax just gets the promise of boundary changes. FTS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious the old boundary process will be completely scrapped and a new one started for this new high school. My guess they will target plus/minus 2,500 students for the new school.

FCPS could look to MCPS for how they are doing the boundaries for all the new high schools opening up there.

The boundary process can stay in tact for the eastern part of the county that wouldn't be impacted. This impacts Chantilly, Westfield, Oakton, South Lakes, and maybe also Herndon and Centerville pyramids.

Add Woodson and Fairfax. If Westfield takes more of Centreville’s western boundary (up to Rt-28) then Centreville could take Willow Springs, and Woodson/Fairfax wouldn’t have to split hairs trying to keep both their middle schools and high schools under 105%

[Anonymous]

My guess:
Coates (most)
McNair
Floris (all)
Oak Hill (all)
Crossfield (Franklin Farm)

Fox Mill stays at South Lakes.

Parts of Fox Mill are somewhat closer than Crossfield students, but only a little bit.
This would unite Franklin Farm.

I am guessing that Emerald Chase would stay at Oak Hill.

Remaining problem: Franklin/Carson split feeders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

All of Floris, McNair, and Fox Mill go to Carson. Most of Coates and Crossfield go there, along with a small part of Oak Hill (rest of Oak Hill goes to Franklin).

The people who are being really aggressive on the topic seem to be Crossfield folks insisting that they'll have dibs on the new school.

I don't think anyone has "dibs."

The Crossfield folks currently go to Oakton --which is a very long way.
Chantilly (while projected to lose membership) is the school that needs relief.

I could see Fox Mill staying with South Lakes. South Lakes is not going to want to give them up.

Fox Mill attends Carson, which will be next to the new HS. It makes sense for Fox Mill to attend the new HS.

And yes, I am a Fox Mill parent who doesn't like IB and doesn't want to move to Hughes. Moving the Carson base school students into the new HS would make sense. It ends the split feeder problem at Carson and the distances work for the Carson base schools kids. SLHS doesn't lose that many students because Fox Mill is a small number of the kids. Not to mention, a good number of the Fox Mill family's pupil place to AP schools because they don't want IB. The number of pupil departures are hidden by the Herndon kids who move to SLHS for IB because they don't want to be at Herndon.

You don't know that the new high school won't be IB.

I would be shocked if the new HS is IB. Some where around 300 kids complete the IB diploma every year across the county. I think more kids pupil place out of IB then complete the degree. It is an expensive program that people are not interested in.

The two most recent high schools opened (Westfield and South County) both are AP schools. I also think the folks in the area would strongly prefer AP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s obvious the old boundary process will be completely scrapped and a new one started for this new high school. My guess they will target plus/minus 2,500 students for the new school.

FCPS could look to MCPS for how they are doing the boundaries for all the new high schools opening up there.

The boundary process can stay in tact for the eastern part of the county that wouldn't be impacted. This impacts Chantilly, Westfield, Oakton, South Lakes, and maybe also Herndon and Centerville pyramids.

While folks in the eastern part of the county won't be redistricted to the new high school, they are claiming they will save hundreds of millions by purchasing this property.

I'd like to see how they might put some of those savings to use renovating and/or expanding schools in eastern Fairfax first before they move kids in that part of the county.

Right now it's looking like western Fairfax gets expanded schools + a brand-new school while eastern Fairfax just gets the promise of boundary changes. FTS.

Justice, Langley, Falls Church HS, Madison, West Potomac…

I think it’s ridiculous that McLean hasn’t been expanded too, but the eastern part of the county has not been ignored.

[Anonymous]

Wow. The facilities are stunning. The campus won awards. There won’t be a need to renovate apart from some minor ed specification issues.

https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. The facilities are stunning. The campus won awards. There won’t be a need to renovate apart from some minor ed specification issues.

https://www.kaa-herndon.com/about-us/facilities

^Do click on the photos to cycle through the slide show: There are beautiful details like the geometric patterns for the screens. Lush courtyards, and a beautiful lobby with terraced seats. The school even has a regulation size interior swimming pool. FCPS really wins with this campus. Westfield looks like a “prison” in comparison.