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where's the proof that nursing an older baby is bad for the mother or the baby? a lot of you seem to be implying that the reason you are opposed to this is because it's harmful for mothers and babies -- however none of you have provided a single bit of evidence to support that fact. therefore i can only conclude that no such evidence exists. if you want to be judgmental and repulsed by a natural process, by all means, go ahead. but don't pretend that your socially determined response has any basis in fact.
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Anonymous
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i don't think you can compare these. poop is messy and ends up external to the body. breastmilk goes from mother to baby. poop is smelly. breastmilk is not. poop is a waste product. breastmilk is not.
i think it's telling that you equate breastmilk with poop -- to me they are not in the same category in the slightest. that's like saying that eating or drinking any food in public is the same as pooping in public. the whole "socially acceptable" argument doesn't really hold much weight with those of us who don't believe it should be taboo to breastfeed in public.
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Anonymous
PP, I should be angry with you to call me a freak, but your cowardly and ignorant behavior makes me want to laugh. Let's wait and see what your kid will turn out to be having a judgmental parent like you. I am nursing my milk allergic DS with the full support of his and my doctors, why do you need to get so worked up about it? Could it be that somehow I make you feel bad about yourself? Calling people names is childish, you are a parent now, grow up for the sake of your kids!! (If you are not yet a parent, please get off this board.) |
Anonymous
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it may be true that it's not the societal norm. those of us who nurse our babies past infancy or do anything else that goes against social norms are well aware of that. however we believe that what we are doing is best for ourselves and our kids, so we don't let society's views stand in our way. i'm pretty sure our society wouldn't have gotten too far if no one had challenged social norms -- we'd still have slavery, for example.
calling someone a freak is just not nice. shame on you for being so juvenile and nasty. i also feel sorry for your child or children to have a mother who would call another mother a freak just for doing what she believes is best for her child. what a shame.
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Anonymous
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It's the WHO that has a LOT to answer for in this discussion. Their one-size-fits-all smug Geneva policy making ignores the diversity and cultural elements associated with infant feeding. Their self-professed efforts to "denormalize" formula feeding to the extent that it becomes socially unacceptable are reprehensible (given the impact it has on good moms trying to do the right thing by their baby). Just as their efforts to promote breast-best and educate people about breastfeeding are laudable and appropriate. I've read all the quotes and stats and reports and links and experts quoted in this 'discussion' and it really does make me realize that international poloicy makers, militants on both sides and the bored chatters should find a hobby that doesn't involve judging other people.
To the moms breastfeeding their babies for a long time: good on you. To the moms breastfeeding their babies for a long as if it's some trophy performance or to make a point: get a life. To the moms who formula feed for whatever reason: good on you. For the moms who advocate formula feeding and talk-down breast-feeding to justify their own decisions: get a life. It's clear that babies fed on breastmilk do well. It's also clear that babies fed on formula do well. But most clear of all is that babies fed on aggressive, self-serving, insular, judgemental and hostile messages do not do well. There is no right or wrong with this issue - there's just the question of what is right for you, your baby, your family and your broader life context. |
Anonymous
| ITA with the PP, especially when it comes to the cases like that mom nursing her 4 year old in the middle of daycare. Get a life. You can "Reconnect" or whatever with your kid in private at home. Period. And all this "legal right" mumbo jumbo that the lactation nazis keep spouting is a smoke screen for a deeper issue. Your kid doesn't need to nurse at age 3 or 4...get that through your head! You ARE out of the norm and deviant as others have said. It's not nutritional or a positive emotional thing at that point. It's a crutch emotionally and developmentally. Yuck. Why intentionally make the majority of society uncomfortable? because it's your "badge of courage". Find another cause to advocate = there are plenty that are worthwhile that go beyond your breasts! Geesh. |
Anonymous
Who on this thread have breastfed their babies as a "trophy performance?" The only people mentioning that are those who are against extended breastfeeding. Everyone here who has actually breastfed their older baby/toddler has said that they are doing it because it's what's right for them and their child, NOT to prove something to anybody. As for the whole argument that you need to wean when child can speak: my niece was an early talker and could ask to nurse with words when she was 8 months. Should her mother have had to wean to formula then? My brother was a late talker and didn't talk until he was more than 2. Did that give my mom "permission" to nurse for longer? |
Anonymous
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"Go home and do it - they want you out of there at the end of the day at daycare, and it sounds like she is just doing it to prove a point or get attention.
Get attention - Bingo! |
Anonymous
| Reminds me of the eeew scene in The Last Emperor... |
Anonymous
Even if it is, they still should wait the few minutes until they get home to do it. I am not opposed to the idea of breastfeeding an older child, although I am not sure whether we will do that in our family or not yet. And I don't think there is necessarily anything wrong with doing so in an appropriate public place (e.g., an uncrowded park, an uncrowded Starbucks), although this is not something we will choose for our family. However, at a daycare at the end of the day is NOT an appropriate place and time. Let's say that, instead of getting my child and going home, I brought a picnic blanket, spread it out, and sat there eating juice and cookies with him as our way to reconnect. I don't know of anything that legally prevents me from doing so, but it would be annoying if I did it because it is not an appropriate time and place for the activity. |
Anonymous
| I tend to agree with PP, regardless of the child's age. Right now my child is cared for at home, and as soon as I walk in the door she wants to nurse. I'm guessing that when she starts at daycare soon it will be the same way. But, I plan on waiting until we get to the car, and then just spend 5 or 10min sitting there with her nursing before getting her into her carseat for the ride home. I think it's a lovely bonding ritual, but one that might be disruptive to the flow of all the other parents...unless of course the provider has ok'd it as not a problem (yes, it might be legal. but is it considerate of everyone else trying to pick up their kid at the same time). |
Anonymous
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" Like it or not, there are certain things that become just for in private or just for at home as kids get older. For example, if my one year old poops his pants at the park, I would probably just change his diaper right there in the open. If my three year old goes at the park, we would probably go home or to an out of the way place in the park to change him. There is nothing wrong with either child going, and nothing sexual about a diaper change. But as the kid gets older, it is less socially acceptable to do it in public. "
Why is your 3 yr old in diapers? |
Anonymous
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"I tend to agree with PP, regardless of the child's age. Right now my child is cared for at home, and as soon as I walk in the door she wants to nurse. I'm guessing that when she starts at daycare soon it will be the same way. But, I plan on waiting until we get to the car, and then just spend 5 or 10min sitting there with her nursing before getting her into her carseat for the ride home. I think it's a lovely bonding ritual, but one that might be disruptive to the flow of all the other parents...unless of course the provider has ok'd it as not a problem (yes, it might be legal. but is it considerate of everyone else trying to pick up their kid at the same time). "
I was not an extended nurser, heck I couldn't even make it a year but I just do not understand this consideration issue. I could understand if nursing was loud or smelly or somehow completely invaded someone else's space but to feel like you have to hide in the car or wait until you get home because someone may not approve is just not right. Consideration is not about bowing to people who are being inappropriately judgemental. Consideration is giving up your seat for someone else so they can sit down, not talking on your cell phone in places that should be quiet, removing loud kids from a restaurant so others can enjoy their dinner...all those things that have a material impact. Avoiding nursing in public whether it is a newborn or a 4 yr old is not about consideration anymore than not wearing white pants until after labor day even though you really want to wear them is being considerate of others. |
Anonymous
| 8:49 here again. 9:31, based on the story being told, it sounds like this mom was nursing right in the middle of the main area, possibly disrupting the flow of folks in and out of the daycare. I wasn't speaking of inconsiderate in terms of not wanting to see breastfeeding being uncomfortable. It's inconsiderate to stop in the middle of a busy sidewalk to tie your shoe. Instead, you step over into the grass so that you don't inconvenience others. The only reason you wouldn't step aside is if there's no other place go. Same thing with this woman, did she have to choose that very very spot, or was there a chair at the back of the room, or in her car or somewhere where she wouldn't be quite as in the way. |
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