
Just a side note. There is someone (i hope not more than one) who continues to refer to extended breastfeeders as "lactivist nazis." For someone trying to explain how offended you are when you see a breast, you are using very inappropriate and offensive language. Calling someone advocating (or by these boards standards, simply engaging in) breastfeeding a "lactivist" is annoying enough. Comparing them to criminals who imprisoned, tortured, and slaughtered countless humna beings is highly inappropriate and offensive all around. |
"8:49 here again. 9:31, based on the story being told, it sounds like this mom was nursing right in the middle of the main area, possibly disrupting the flow of folks in and out of the daycare. I wasn't speaking of inconsiderate in terms of not wanting to see breastfeeding being uncomfortable. It's inconsiderate to stop in the middle of a busy sidewalk to tie your shoe. Instead, you step over into the grass so that you don't inconvenience others. The only reason you wouldn't step aside is if there's no other place go. Same thing with this woman, did she have to choose that very very spot, or was there a chair at the back of the room, or in her car or somewhere where she wouldn't be quite as in the way. "
Really? You see I had the impression from an abundance of posts that people were objecting to the woman breastfeeding her 4 year old. Right, those posters and the daycare worker had no problem with seeing a woman BF her 4 yr old, they were just upset that she was sitting in the walkway?? Come on..none of the posts said she was blocking traffic but that she was sitting in a highly visible area that parents could not avoid so they all had to inadvertantly look at her. None of these people were harmed or inconvenienced in any way by looking her and seeing her BF her 4 yr old. They didn't approve or they thought it was icky but again no harm. I'll fess up that I find very obese people terribly gross. I think its very gross to see them eating tons of food. There is nothing worse than having to grab a drink at a food court in a mall and sitting down next a 400lb person eating five meals. The pool is another place where you see people who should not go out in the public in a bathing suit. These people are not harming me but they are grossing me out, and they are not healthy but should they hide in their houses to be more considerate about not offending others of normal weight? No. |
I'm the provider who posted about the 4 year old. There was a poster who was wondering about the age of the child. She was 4 years old. Her 4th birthday was about 3 months prior to the first complaint that I received from one of the daycare dads. Also, I want to make it very clear that she was nursing her daughter in the most high traffic part of the daycare. At the end of the day, the later pick up kids play in the hall area together, except for the infants who are in the infant room. If the mom wanted to nurse her daughter before she left, she could have taken her into one of the 3 other classrooms that were totally empty and had more comfortable seating, but she sat in the floor in the lobby area where there was a constant flow of people. |
she was under no legal or other obligation to use a separate room. if she was in the way you could have asked her to move (did you?) but doing so simply because she was nursing seems ridiculous. the fact that you and your staff were so upset about this makes it seem like more your issue than hers. there are clearly plenty of others on here who agree with your position which i think is really sad. i understand what she did was not the norm but why couldn't you just accept that one parent did things differently and move on? i feel sorry for her having her kid in your school when you clearly seem so venomous towards her. i'm sure there are plenty of other daycare providers out there who wouldn't have been so judgmental of her. hope she found one of them.
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You do not get it. |
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but you don't know this person at all. you are assuming she has these bad motives without having any information about her or her thought process. you may not be able to see any reason for her sitting there other than that she is a crappy attention starved person, but that's just your perception because you don't know her. there have been plenty of times as a parent when i've judged someone else for doing something and wondered why they couldn't just do it the way i did it, only to later find myself in a similar situation and suddenly understand the rhyme and reason to what they did.
unless you know for a fact that she was trying to get attention or prove a point, i think it's unfair of you to assume that that was the reason behind her actions.
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i get it just fine, thanks. i just happen to have a different opinion than yours.
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I would like to give this person the benefit of the doubt, but I can't really think of any legitimate reason for her behavior. You are right that I don't know her, but neither do any of the people coming to her defense. There's a chance that she has some reason for her action that I just haven't thought of, but there's a good chance that she's just a pain in the ass. I think people who are defending her are just reacting to the numerous and somewhat immature comments that breastfeeding an older child is gross. This woman sounds like someone who is doing something that is fine in and of itself in a thoughtless way. |
Would it bother everyone if the mother was holding the child giving a sippy cup or bottle? Our society is so weird about nursing. There are boobs everywhere...billboards, magazines, TV, movies...but god forbid one be put to its actual purpose. And don't say its purpose is it nurse for one year...human beings have nursed much longer than that for all of time...
And is no one offended that a daycare provider is on here trash talking a parent? Is that how you would your provider to treat you? |
Yes, I would think it was weird, because you should be taking your child home, not hanging out and having a drink. In response to your second comment, I am sure that I do things that annoy my daycare providers and don't realize it. I wouldn't really care if they talked trash about me on some anonymous internet board. If they said bad things about my kid, on the other hand, I'd be angry. |
Yes, I would have some serious questions if the mother was giving the four year old a sippy cup or bottle. |
Clearly you don't seem to be understanding me. I'll explain where I stand on this. I'm fine with the 4 year old nursing. That's not my business. My director made me handle it in the most politically correct way possible, so that I said was "It doesn't look that comfortable nursing here in the hall way. Would you like to go to my toddler class room where we have a cozy corner and you can both be comfortable and focus on each other." It didn't work, so I was at a loss after that. I'm not venemous toward her at all. I just didn't like the feeling of being expected to admonish a woman for breastfeeding in front of others and I'm pretty sure that's a violation of breast feeding rights. Geez, why is it that I've heard so many responses that say that they would feel sorry if they had a child in my care, all because I would have prefered for this mother to make use of on of the more confortable rooms instead of placing herself in a highly visible place. |
I don't mind because I quit working there a long time ago. As far as the mom was concerned, when she wasn't doing the nursing at pick up time, I really liked her a lot and her husband and daughter were both cool, too. I just wanted to look out for the people who were uncomfortable with the sight. I had to consider the needs of everyone else, too. |
Not wanting to witness toddler nursing is not a need. |