MOCO - County Wide Upzoning, Everywhere
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Anonymous
Which crumbling infrastructure are you talking about, specifically? Are you talking about crowded and crumbling MCPS schools, or is there non-school infrastructure that you perceive as crumbling? |
Anonymous
Friedson is the one currently championing this attainable housing movement. He was the very special guest on a growth webinar back in February and was filled with glee about it. |
Anonymous
DP. I would say overburdened infrastructure (roads, parks, other county government facilities) rather than crumbling. Obviously existing residents need to foot the bill to get that back to healthy but we can’t keep falling further behind, so developers will need to foot the bill for their growth. If that means they have to settle for less profit, then so be it. We shouldn’t be subsidizing massive corporate profits. |
Anonymous
I was not aware of this disastrous policy. It almost like the people that run MOCO are trying to destroy it. This will ruin county finances. They cannot raise income taxes, so MOCO will need to raise sales taxes and property taxes to cover the funding shortfall. This is beginning of the end for Montgomery County, it is going to hell. |
Anonymous
Progressives will scream that increases sales taxes are regressive. |
Anonymous
Yes, that is the ironic part of their very short-sighted policy decisions to promote "affordable housing" The property taxes are also regressive too. The wealthiest households have the lowest average % of their net worth in their personal residence. Wealthy households are least impacted by property tax increases and the most likely to have the capability to move to avoid them. Property tax increase will hit renters and middle class households the hardest. |
Anonymous
What is your basis for saying that county roads, parks, and other county government facilities are overburdened? |
Anonymous
You guys are so annoying. Do you even live in MOCO or have a job anywhere in the DC metro area. The traffic is terrible all over MD, NOVA, and DC. It is so much worse than 20 years ago and it takes twice as long as it used to commute to work for many people. Many of these YIMBYs have no concern for anything other than promoting their religious fervor for endless development and boosting developer profits. The portion of I-495 between Tysons Corner and Bethesda has standstill traffic almost every day now. Even on the weekend, there is usually horrendous traffic. |
Anonymous
OK. Schools: Many of them are chronically overcrowded and have temporary classrooms, according to MCPS guidelines. Planning adopted a higher threshold for classifying a school as overcrowded, and even by that measure a number of schools are overcrowded. Roads: I don’t think this needs explaining, but look at the Beltway or 270 at rush hour if you need more data. Parks: Fields are booked wall to wall and some leagues can’t get the slots they need to meet demand in their programs. Because they’re used so much, a lot of the fields are bare, compacted dirt that is as hard as concrete. And so on. The county did not scale infrastructure or services along with growth such that growth has caused the quality of life to deteriorate. It’s hard to be that incompetent, but that’s planning and the county council for you. Needing someone to explain this to you makes YIMBYs look utterly clueless and hurts your credibility. |
Anonymous
+100 |
Anonymous
Watch the YIMBY PP simply ignore this. Like a good cult member |
Anonymous
People need to fight back before it is too late. This policy will destroy everything that made MOCO a desirable place to live. There will be nothing left to defend if people don't stand up to prevent ideological crazies. |
Anonymous
Northern Virginia also has a penchant for hiring incompetent lunatics from the MOCO planning department, so this fight will be coming to the NOVA suburbs soon. |
Anonymous
Got it. You don't mean the roads are overburdened, you mean there are a lot of cars on the road during rush hour. Yes, there are, that's true. Fortunately, the county is investing in lots of different actions to help people get where they're going without having to be in a car on a road at the same time as lots of other cars are on the road, including sidewalks and bike lanes, buses, Metro, the Purple Line, more housing, and denser housing. It is true that the county has a big financial burden from just maintaining the current roads (pavement, snow removal, street lights, traffic signals, mowing/vegetation control, stormwater, bridge and culvert replacement, sidewalk retrofits, etc.), not to mention the additional costs of the roads (emergency response, police traffic enforcement, etc.), but that's actually an argument against more roads. |
Anonymous
True. They ignore everything that doesn’t align with their worldview. Planning does the same thing. They decide on a policy and then manipulate the data to fit the recommendation. If that doesn’t work, they ignore the data and press ahead anyway. |