Upper middle class family claiming “full ride (sports) scholarship” to small D3 private college?

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Anonymous wrote:Look D# is incredibly bad Inermural athetheletes at most D1 schools would crush those at D3 schools!

Intermural beats D3? lol. A top D3 in most sports is full of kids that could have played mid/low D1 but preferred to balance sports with an education.

Not intramural, but an SEC or ACC club team in say baseball could legitimately maybe win the D3 national championships. Not to say they would…but would be in the conversation. I would imagine Lynchburg and Salisbury (winners or D3 finalists the last several years) probably get their fair share of near D1 talent.

The UNC club baseball team also has kids that could have played D1 at other schools but either didn’t want a less academic D1 or didn’t want to have a 60 hour per week job of playing baseball and the crazy travel schedule.

The UNC club team would likely beat nearly every academic D3 in the NESCAC considering I know plenty of low 80s kids recruited to those schools because yes you need the grades and scores for those schools. Emory or JHU likely a different matter.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

NP. Read through this thread, and this person just seems so nasty. Just because the other poster calls their statement false (which is annoying as it was their experience), they then attack the other poster's kid repeatedly. I get you being annoyed, but that just is an ugly look for you.

I think it must be true, though. That PP has been all over this thread claiming that anyone whose athlete kid got good merit aid at a D3 is lying, and that their kids are losers. She is almost hysterical in how hard she is lashing out at posters who report that their kids got very good merit aid offers, particularly cheaper than in-state tuition. Meanwhile, that PPs child is the grandchild of a longtime D1 coach and selective head of admissions. So, she doesn’t know anything about D3 athletic merit aid, even though she says her kid tried to get it (but failed), but somehow her kid ended up playing D1? There is only one rational conclusion here.

Holy. F**king. Sh*t. There is no such thing.

LOL. “Athletic merit aid.” No, this isn’t a thing. Coaches at opposing schools would absolutely pounce on schools trying to get around rules for D3 sports by going “athletic merit aid.”

I got a full scholarship to a D3 LAC. Weirdly, I also a letter from the coach of my HS sport (whom I had never met or spoken to) thanking me for “committing to the team.” I never answered the coach, never played the sport, and my scholarship was not affected.

And yet that’s obviously WHY they gave you the merit aid. In your case it was a gamble that didn’t pay off for them in any way. The fact that you can so clearly lay out the facts of what happened and yet still not “get it” proves that you were otherwise unworthy of “merit” aid.

This isn't how it works. At all. Hampden- Sydney College isn't going to through away their eligibility for a year, a decade, or even forever in some cases so that Trey, with his 3.1 and a 1200 SAT can play Lacrosse for free for 4 years.

The mod needs to lock this thread

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

NP. Read through this thread, and this person just seems so nasty. Just because the other poster calls their statement false (which is annoying as it was their experience), they then attack the other poster's kid repeatedly. I get you being annoyed, but that just is an ugly look for you.

I think it must be true, though. That PP has been all over this thread claiming that anyone whose athlete kid got good merit aid at a D3 is lying, and that their kids are losers. She is almost hysterical in how hard she is lashing out at posters who report that their kids got very good merit aid offers, particularly cheaper than in-state tuition. Meanwhile, that PPs child is the grandchild of a longtime D1 coach and selective head of admissions. So, she doesn’t know anything about D3 athletic merit aid, even though she says her kid tried to get it (but failed), but somehow her kid ended up playing D1? There is only one rational conclusion here.

Holy. F**king. Sh*t. There is no such thing.

LOL. “Athletic merit aid.” No, this isn’t a thing. Coaches at opposing schools would absolutely pounce on schools trying to get around rules for D3 sports by going “athletic merit aid.”

I got a full scholarship to a D3 LAC. Weirdly, I also a letter from the coach of my HS sport (whom I had never met or spoken to) thanking me for “committing to the team.” I never answered the coach, never played the sport, and my scholarship was not affected.

And yet that’s obviously WHY they gave you the merit aid. In your case it was a gamble that didn’t pay off for them in any way. The fact that you can so clearly lay out the facts of what happened and yet still not “get it” proves that you were otherwise unworthy of “merit” aid.

Hold up. Now we have lunatics posting that schools will risk entire athletic programs and massive fines [/i]on a gamble? You think they'll offer a full scholarship, in complete violation of all NCAA rules and regulations,.... because a guy....might[i] play?

That's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

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Anonymous wrote:Bill Simmons is a popular sports podcast host and worth $200 million dollars. Even he was a swooped up into the travel sports craziness for years and would claim his daughter was going to go play D1 soccer. She ended up walking on to some D3 club team at an obscure New England college.

Emerson isn’t obscure in the communications field.

So done with these folks.

Friend's DC is @ Emerson. Has had an impressive set of internships in communications and really enjoying her time there. It's an alternative for folks who want an urban setting but not NYU because it's their hometown.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

NP. Read through this thread, and this person just seems so nasty. Just because the other poster calls their statement false (which is annoying as it was their experience), they then attack the other poster's kid repeatedly. I get you being annoyed, but that just is an ugly look for you.

I think it must be true, though. That PP has been all over this thread claiming that anyone whose athlete kid got good merit aid at a D3 is lying, and that their kids are losers. She is almost hysterical in how hard she is lashing out at posters who report that their kids got very good merit aid offers, particularly cheaper than in-state tuition. Meanwhile, that PPs child is the grandchild of a longtime D1 coach and selective head of admissions. So, she doesn’t know anything about D3 athletic merit aid, even though she says her kid tried to get it (but failed), but somehow her kid ended up playing D1? There is only one rational conclusion here.

Holy. F**king. Sh*t. There is no such thing.

LOL. “Athletic merit aid.” No, this isn’t a thing. Coaches at opposing schools would absolutely pounce on schools trying to get around rules for D3 sports by going “athletic merit aid.”

I got a full scholarship to a D3 LAC. Weirdly, I also a letter from the coach of my HS sport (whom I had never met or spoken to) thanking me for “committing to the team.” I never answered the coach, never played the sport, and my scholarship was not affected.

And yet that’s obviously WHY they gave you the merit aid. In your case it was a gamble that didn’t pay off for them in any way. The fact that you can so clearly lay out the facts of what happened and yet still not “get it” proves that you were otherwise unworthy of “merit” aid.

Hold up. Now we have lunatics posting that schools will risk entire athletic programs and massive fines [/i]on a gamble? You think they'll offer a full scholarship, in complete violation of all NCAA rules and regulations,.... because a guy....might[i] play?

That's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

Agree. Had quite a chuckle at that post.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

NP. Read through this thread, and this person just seems so nasty. Just because the other poster calls their statement false (which is annoying as it was their experience), they then attack the other poster's kid repeatedly. I get you being annoyed, but that just is an ugly look for you.

I think it must be true, though. That PP has been all over this thread claiming that anyone whose athlete kid got good merit aid at a D3 is lying, and that their kids are losers. She is almost hysterical in how hard she is lashing out at posters who report that their kids got very good merit aid offers, particularly cheaper than in-state tuition. Meanwhile, that PPs child is the grandchild of a longtime D1 coach and selective head of admissions. So, she doesn’t know anything about D3 athletic merit aid, even though she says her kid tried to get it (but failed), but somehow her kid ended up playing D1? There is only one rational conclusion here.

Holy. F**king. Sh*t. There is no such thing.

LOL. “Athletic merit aid.” No, this isn’t a thing. Coaches at opposing schools would absolutely pounce on schools trying to get around rules for D3 sports by going “athletic merit aid.”

I got a full scholarship to a D3 LAC. Weirdly, I also a letter from the coach of my HS sport (whom I had never met or spoken to) thanking me for “committing to the team.” I never answered the coach, never played the sport, and my scholarship was not affected.

And yet that’s obviously WHY they gave you the merit aid. In your case it was a gamble that didn’t pay off for them in any way. The fact that you can so clearly lay out the facts of what happened and yet still not “get it” proves that you were otherwise unworthy of “merit” aid.

Hold up. Now we have lunatics posting that schools will risk entire athletic programs and massive fines [/i]on a gamble? You think they'll offer a full scholarship, in complete violation of all NCAA rules and regulations,.... because a guy....might[i] play?

That's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

Agree. Had quite a chuckle at that post.

You guys are hopelessly naive. The scholarships are officially for merit, and as a PP laid out, they are unaffected if the student decides not to go for the sport. So what exactly are these schools risking, other than potentially throwing away some merit aid to doofuses like that PP for zero return on investment? They’re not breaking any rules, and there is no way to prove that they’re trying to recruit athletes on the sly.

It’s like loopholes for taxes. Everything is in bounds from a legal standpoint even though we all (those of us with functioning brains in our heads) know what is really going on.

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Anonymous wrote:Good to see the liars are being shot down.

D3 has no full ride for athletics.

But but but…they will FIND the extra merit money for my stellar athlete! Therefore it really really IS an athletic scholarship!

I just pity these people putting their insecurity on blast. So sad your kid is mediocre and you're compellled to lie about aid.

Pot, meet kettle. This whole thread was started by some insecure, jealous busybody who has no concept of how normal social interactions work.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of small, not prestigious, not selective D3 schools give everybody tons of merit aid.

D3 schools can't give sports scholarships, but I assume this family is betting that you don't know that so that is why they are bragging this way.

It is possible that they receive some extra merit aid compared to the next person for some leadership award or something like that which mysteriously always goes to athletes.

If a coach gets the student merit aid it’s essentially a sports scholarship.

Sure they don’t call it that. Loophole.

No its not, a sports scholarship criteria for awarding would be based on athletics. A merit scholarship is based on academic merit. If you stop playing the sport or are injured you could and would lose the athletic scholarship but as long as you meet the merit criteria (GPA etc) you would retain the merit scholarship. A D3 school can not give an athletic scholarship, they can however use merit scholarships to recruit an athlete.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of small, not prestigious, not selective D3 schools give everybody tons of merit aid.

D3 schools can't give sports scholarships, but I assume this family is betting that you don't know that so that is why they are bragging this way.

It is possible that they receive some extra merit aid compared to the next person for some leadership award or something like that which mysteriously always goes to athletes.

If a coach gets the student merit aid it’s essentially a sports scholarship.

Sure they don’t call it that. Loophole.

No its not, a sports scholarship criteria for awarding would be based on athletics. A merit scholarship is based on academic merit. If you stop playing the sport or are injured you could and would lose the athletic scholarship but as long as you meet the merit criteria (GPA etc) you would retain the merit scholarship. A D3 school can not give an athletic scholarship, they can however use merit scholarships to recruit an athlete.

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It took 18 pages to get to this?

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of small, not prestigious, not selective D3 schools give everybody tons of merit aid.

D3 schools can't give sports scholarships, but I assume this family is betting that you don't know that so that is why they are bragging this way.

It is possible that they receive some extra merit aid compared to the next person for some leadership award or something like that which mysteriously always goes to athletes.

If a coach gets the student merit aid it’s essentially a sports scholarship.

Sure they don’t call it that. Loophole.

No its not, a sports scholarship criteria for awarding would be based on athletics. A merit scholarship is based on academic merit. If you stop playing the sport or are injured you could and would lose the athletic scholarship but as long as you meet the merit criteria (GPA etc) you would retain the merit scholarship. A D3 school can not give an athletic scholarship, they can however use merit scholarships to recruit an athlete.

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It took 18 pages to get to this?

No, it didn't. There were enough posts up thread explaining that a merit award may attract an athlete, even ones with dubious academic qualities. But there were enough people who wanted to sling mud, including at kids who really didn't deserve it, to cloud the thread for many read.

Look, I wasn't happy when DH's cousin, who is basically his sibling, told us that their DC didn't ED anywhere because they couldn't make a decision, only to find out later that they had and were rejected. Why lie, especially to family? But whatever. Parents say all kinds of stuff about their children. If it doesn't directly have bad consequences on one's life, let it go.

And kudos to all the kids who are continuing to play sports if that is their desire. If it keeps them happy and on track/out of trouble, so much the better.

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Sports are used to lure kids to obscure d 3 schools they would not otherwise attend,

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Anonymous wrote:Sports are used to lure kids to obscure d 3 schools they would not otherwise attend,

All schools attempt to lure students, obscure or otherwise.

If it doesn’t involve your DC, why do you care?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

NP. Read through this thread, and this person just seems so nasty. Just because the other poster calls their statement false (which is annoying as it was their experience), they then attack the other poster's kid repeatedly. I get you being annoyed, but that just is an ugly look for you.

I think it must be true, though. That PP has been all over this thread claiming that anyone whose athlete kid got good merit aid at a D3 is lying, and that their kids are losers. She is almost hysterical in how hard she is lashing out at posters who report that their kids got very good merit aid offers, particularly cheaper than in-state tuition. Meanwhile, that PPs child is the grandchild of a longtime D1 coach and selective head of admissions. So, she doesn’t know anything about D3 athletic merit aid, even though she says her kid tried to get it (but failed), but somehow her kid ended up playing D1? There is only one rational conclusion here.

Holy. F**king. Sh*t. There is no such thing.

LOL. “Athletic merit aid.” No, this isn’t a thing. Coaches at opposing schools would absolutely pounce on schools trying to get around rules for D3 sports by going “athletic merit aid.”

I got a full scholarship to a D3 LAC. Weirdly, I also a letter from the coach of my HS sport (whom I had never met or spoken to) thanking me for “committing to the team.” I never answered the coach, never played the sport, and my scholarship was not affected.

And yet that’s obviously WHY they gave you the merit aid. In your case it was a gamble that didn’t pay off for them in any way. The fact that you can so clearly lay out the facts of what happened and yet still not “get it” proves that you were otherwise unworthy of “merit” aid.

Hold up. Now we have lunatics posting that schools will risk entire athletic programs and massive fines [/i]on a gamble? You think they'll offer a full scholarship, in complete violation of all NCAA rules and regulations,.... because a guy....might[i] play?

That's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

Agree. Had quite a chuckle at that post.

You guys are hopelessly naive. The scholarships are officially for merit, and as a PP laid out, they are unaffected if the student decides not to go for the sport. So what exactly are these schools risking, other than potentially throwing away some merit aid to doofuses like that PP for zero return on investment? They’re not breaking any rules, and there is no way to prove that they’re trying to recruit athletes on the sly.

It’s like loopholes for taxes. Everything is in bounds from a legal standpoint even though we all (those of us with functioning brains in our heads) know what is really going on.

Ahhh, theyre risking banishment from the NCAA in the worst case scenario or about $200,000 in lost tuition in the best case scenario.

Let me guess, you've never run a business or done a cost benefit analysis before.

There is no such thing as a sports scholarship at D3 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

NP. They can certainly give you extremely significant merit aid. My kid was awarded enough in merit aid that the private D3 was cheaper than instate.

That's simply false. You're not going to convince me because we tried every way possible for my kid to do this and the only 'free' offers at the end of the day were D1.

Your kid was either not good enough or not smart enough.

Wut? A kid who plays D1 isn't good enough to play D3? You ate a lot of crayons as a child, didn't you?

Yes. You obviously know nothing about the current college sports landscape. Transfer portal has changed everything. Your D1 kid wasn’t good enough to get good D3 money. Sorry to break it to you.

Also, the crayons attempted insult is extremely uncreative and dull. At least try to show some intelligence.

There is no D3 money. My father was a D1 coach for 22 years and my FIL was Chief of Admissions at a highly selective university. But keep telling yourself your loser kid is great.

Well, since you obviously used family connections to wedge your benchwarmer kid into a D1 slot he would not otherwise have earned on his own merit, I see now why you don’t understand how D3 merit aid works for kids who are top recruits. Your posts make a lot more sense now.

For kids who are actually good, there is a lot of money available, enough to make the schools cheaper than in-state public.

NP. Read through this thread, and this person just seems so nasty. Just because the other poster calls their statement false (which is annoying as it was their experience), they then attack the other poster's kid repeatedly. I get you being annoyed, but that just is an ugly look for you.

I think it must be true, though. That PP has been all over this thread claiming that anyone whose athlete kid got good merit aid at a D3 is lying, and that their kids are losers. She is almost hysterical in how hard she is lashing out at posters who report that their kids got very good merit aid offers, particularly cheaper than in-state tuition. Meanwhile, that PPs child is the grandchild of a longtime D1 coach and selective head of admissions. So, she doesn’t know anything about D3 athletic merit aid, even though she says her kid tried to get it (but failed), but somehow her kid ended up playing D1? There is only one rational conclusion here.

Holy. F**king. Sh*t. There is no such thing.

LOL. “Athletic merit aid.” No, this isn’t a thing. Coaches at opposing schools would absolutely pounce on schools trying to get around rules for D3 sports by going “athletic merit aid.”

I got a full scholarship to a D3 LAC. Weirdly, I also a letter from the coach of my HS sport (whom I had never met or spoken to) thanking me for “committing to the team.” I never answered the coach, never played the sport, and my scholarship was not affected.

And yet that’s obviously WHY they gave you the merit aid. In your case it was a gamble that didn’t pay off for them in any way. The fact that you can so clearly lay out the facts of what happened and yet still not “get it” proves that you were otherwise unworthy of “merit” aid.

Hold up. Now we have lunatics posting that schools will risk entire athletic programs and massive fines [/i]on a gamble? You think they'll offer a full scholarship, in complete violation of all NCAA rules and regulations,.... because a guy....might[i] play?

That's hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!

Agree. Had quite a chuckle at that post.

You guys are hopelessly naive. The scholarships are officially for merit, and as a PP laid out, they are unaffected if the student decides not to go for the sport. So what exactly are these schools risking, other than potentially throwing away some merit aid to doofuses like that PP for zero return on investment? They’re not breaking any rules, and there is no way to prove that they’re trying to recruit athletes on the sly.

It’s like loopholes for taxes. Everything is in bounds from a legal standpoint even though we all (those of us with functioning brains in our heads) know what is really going on.

They’re giving merit aid to virtually everyone. And calling it merit aid. Why do you keep insisting it’s an athletic scholarship?

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of small, not prestigious, not selective D3 schools give everybody tons of merit aid.

D3 schools can't give sports scholarships, but I assume this family is betting that you don't know that so that is why they are bragging this way.

It is possible that they receive some extra merit aid compared to the next person for some leadership award or something like that which mysteriously always goes to athletes.

If a coach gets the student merit aid it’s essentially a sports scholarship.

Sure they don’t call it that. Loophole.

No its not, a sports scholarship criteria for awarding would be based on athletics. A merit scholarship is based on academic merit. If you stop playing the sport or are injured you could and would lose the athletic scholarship but as long as you meet the merit criteria (GPA etc) you would retain the merit scholarship. A D3 school can not give an athletic scholarship, they can however use merit scholarships to recruit an athlete.

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It took 18 pages to get to this?

No, it didn't. There were enough posts up thread explaining that a merit award may attract an athlete, even ones with dubious academic qualities. But there were enough people who wanted to sling mud, including at kids who really didn't deserve it, to cloud the thread for many read.

Look, I wasn't happy when DH's cousin, who is basically his sibling, told us that their DC didn't ED anywhere because they couldn't make a decision, only to find out later that they had and were rejected. Why lie, especially to family? But whatever. Parents say all kinds of stuff about their children. If it doesn't directly have bad consequences on one's life, let it go.

And kudos to all the kids who are continuing to play sports if that is their desire. If it keeps them happy and on track/out of trouble, so much the better.

Oh hells no. I don’t lie. I expect the same courtesy. I’m not gonna play into your sad little fantasy.