NYT story: Trump administration could strike abortion almost immediately using Comstock law

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Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.


Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.


But it concerns you?


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These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Yes, and now they’ve moved into punishing women for their mere existence.

Women aren’t people in the GOP. You can see this in the posts of the forced birthers.


Nobody wants any woman to give birth if she doesn’t want to do so. Many people also do not want an innocent baby to be killed. Both mom and baby matter.


The idea that an abortion is murder is a minority and wrong view. If you believe it, then don't have an abortion. That is your right and it will be respected. When you try to force that view on others, you are going to face enormous resistance as you should.



How do you define killing a healthy unborn baby?


I favor the protections of roe. I don't believe that a fetus is equivalent to a baby.


A fetus is an unborn baby who is developing in his or her mom’s womb like every person on earth did.


Again, you should make decisions for yourself based on your beliefs.


My tax dollars are being used to fund abortion.
Anonymous
The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications).
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Elective termination of pregnancy remains common in the United States. Abortion is one of the most common medical procedures performed in the United States each year.


In spite of the introduction of newer, more effective, and more widely available contraceptive methods, more than half of the 6 million pregnancies occurring each year in the United States are considered unplanned by the women who are pregnant. Of these pregnancies, approximately half end in elective terminations.

Abortion is the only common surgical procedure that is elective in obstetric and gynecologic residencies. Thus, few board-certified gynecologists are actually qualified to perform the procedure.




About 600k abortions annually in US, not 3 million. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/ss/ss7209a1.htm#:~:text=Among%20the%2048%20reporting%20areas,every%20year%20during%202012%E2%80%932021.

Top US elective medical procedures per year

Colonoscopy 15 m

Cataract surgery 4 M

Core needle biopsy 1 M

C-section 1.2 M

Ear tube replacement 1 M

Hernia surgery 1 M+

Knee replacement 850k

lasik surgery 700 k

…….vasectomy 500 k


Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.


Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.


But it concerns you?


As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.


Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.


This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.


Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?




It is easy to explain. Reproductive decisions belong to the women. Even trying to outlaw abortion will never change that fact. Our laws should reflect that reality.


That doesn’t explain why abortion rates have gone higher despite people claiming reproductive rights have been taken away and abortions are harder or impossible to get for women.


This is the ignorance of the forced birthers. Abortion bans discourage pregnancy and birth. They do not encourage it. They bring much increased anxiety and danger to an already frought process.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications).


So, I guess that means you are against IVF and various forms of birth control, including IUDs, correct?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications).


It is not fully formed life and cannot exist independent of the parent.

If a child needs a heart transplant to live and the mother is a perfect match, should the mother kill themself to donate their heart? If she is resistant to this, should we legally force her to donate it even though it will kill her?

Same concept
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Elective termination of pregnancy remains common in the United States. Abortion is one of the most common medical procedures performed in the United States each year.


In spite of the introduction of newer, more effective, and more widely available contraceptive methods, more than half of the 6 million pregnancies occurring each year in the United States are considered unplanned by the women who are pregnant. Of these pregnancies, approximately half end in elective terminations.

Abortion is the only common surgical procedure that is elective in obstetric and gynecologic residencies. Thus, few board-certified gynecologists are actually qualified to perform the procedure.




About 600k abortions annually in US, not 3 million. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/ss/ss7209a1.htm#:~:text=Among%20the%2048%20reporting%20areas,every%20year%20during%202012%E2%80%932021.

Top US elective medical procedures per year

Colonoscopy 15 m

Cataract surgery 4 M

Core needle biopsy 1 M

C-section 1.2 M

Ear tube replacement 1 M

Hernia surgery 1 M+

Knee replacement 850k

lasik surgery 700 k

…….vasectomy 500 k




Is your data from 2021?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.


Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.


But it concerns you?


As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.


Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.


This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.


Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?




It is easy to explain. Reproductive decisions belong to the women. Even trying to outlaw abortion will never change that fact. Our laws should reflect that reality.


That doesn’t explain why abortion rates have gone higher despite people claiming reproductive rights have been taken away and abortions are harder or impossible to get for women.


This is the ignorance of the forced birthers. Abortion bans discourage pregnancy and birth. They do not encourage it. They bring much increased anxiety and danger to an already frought process.


Abortion bans have had the consequence of increasing infant mortality in TX over the last 2 years, as well. All those pregnancies with fatal fetal conditions that could not legally be aborted turned into babies that instead died shortly after birth, causing ubtold physical, emotional, and financial harm to their families.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/analysis-suggests-2021-texas-abortion-ban-resulted-in-increase-in-infant-deaths-in-state-in-year-after-law-went-into-effect
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications).


It is not fully formed life and cannot exist independent of the parent.

If a child needs a heart transplant to live and the mother is a perfect match, should the mother kill themself to donate their heart? If she is resistant to this, should we legally force her to donate it even though it will kill her?

Same concept


Your argument is flawed; a mom can’t donate her adult sized heart to her sick child.

Children who need organ transplants need child sized organs.

Do no harm means no doctor is going to kill a mother to take her adult sized and thus useless to her sick child heart.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.


Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.


But it concerns you?


As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.


Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.


This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.


Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?




It is easy to explain. Reproductive decisions belong to the women. Even trying to outlaw abortion will never change that fact. Our laws should reflect that reality.


That doesn’t explain why abortion rates have gone higher despite people claiming reproductive rights have been taken away and abortions are harder or impossible to get for women.


This is the ignorance of the forced birthers. Abortion bans discourage pregnancy and birth. They do not encourage it. They bring much increased anxiety and danger to an already frought process.


Abortion bans have had the consequence of increasing infant mortality in TX over the last 2 years, as well. All those pregnancies with fatal fetal conditions that could not legally be aborted turned into babies that instead died shortly after birth, causing ubtold physical, emotional, and financial harm to their families.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/analysis-suggests-2021-texas-abortion-ban-resulted-in-increase-in-infant-deaths-in-state-in-year-after-law-went-into-effect


Analysis Suggests 2021 Texas Abortion Ban Resulted in Increase in Infant Deaths in State in Year After Law Went into Effect

Researchers use statistical modeling to estimate infant deaths expected if one of the country’s most stringent state abortion laws had not been enacted.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.


Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.


But it concerns you?


As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.


Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.


This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.


Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?




It is easy to explain. Reproductive decisions belong to the women. Even trying to outlaw abortion will never change that fact. Our laws should reflect that reality.


That doesn’t explain why abortion rates have gone higher despite people claiming reproductive rights have been taken away and abortions are harder or impossible to get for women.


This is the ignorance of the forced birthers. Abortion bans discourage pregnancy and birth. They do not encourage it. They bring much increased anxiety and danger to an already frought process.


frought?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications).


It is not fully formed life and cannot exist independent of the parent.

If a child needs a heart transplant to live and the mother is a perfect match, should the mother kill themself to donate their heart? If she is resistant to this, should we legally force her to donate it even though it will kill her?

Same concept


Your argument is flawed; a mom can’t donate her adult sized heart to her sick child.

Children who need organ transplants need child sized organs.

Do no harm means no doctor is going to kill a mother to take her adult sized and thus useless to her sick child heart.


You sre deflecting. And yes, this situation could occur with a teenage child.

Answer the question
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications).


It is not fully formed life and cannot exist independent of the parent.

If a child needs a heart transplant to live and the mother is a perfect match, should the mother kill themself to donate their heart? If she is resistant to this, should we legally force her to donate it even though it will kill her?

Same concept


Your argument is flawed; a mom can’t donate her adult sized heart to her sick child.

Children who need organ transplants need child sized organs.

Do no harm means no doctor is going to kill a mother to take her adult sized and thus useless to her sick child heart.


You sre deflecting. And yes, this situation could occur with a teenage child.

Answer the question


Your question is based on a situation that would never occur in real life.

Not a single transplant surgeon nor organ donation team would participate in your scenario.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.


Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.


But it concerns you?


As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.


Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.


This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.


Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?




It is easy to explain. Reproductive decisions belong to the women. Even trying to outlaw abortion will never change that fact. Our laws should reflect that reality.


That doesn’t explain why abortion rates have gone higher despite people claiming reproductive rights have been taken away and abortions are harder or impossible to get for women.


This is the ignorance of the forced birthers. Abortion bans discourage pregnancy and birth. They do not encourage it. They bring much increased anxiety and danger to an already frought process.


frought?


Fraught.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications).


It is not fully formed life and cannot exist independent of the parent.

If a child needs a heart transplant to live and the mother is a perfect match, should the mother kill themself to donate their heart? If she is resistant to this, should we legally force her to donate it even though it will kill her?

Same concept


Your argument is flawed; a mom can’t donate her adult sized heart to her sick child.

Children who need organ transplants need child sized organs.

Do no harm means no doctor is going to kill a mother to take her adult sized and thus useless to her sick child heart.


You sre deflecting. And yes, this situation could occur with a teenage child.

Answer the question


No; your situation is not something that could happen. There is a zero percent chance of your made up scenario occurring in the US health care and hospital system.

My spouse received a kidney transplant 6 years ago. You are just making up scenarios that have no basis in reality.
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