NYT story: Trump administration could strike abortion almost immediately using Comstock law

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.

This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

[…]

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Yes, and now they’ve moved into punishing women for their mere existence.

Women aren’t people in the GOP. You can see this in the posts of the forced birthers.

Nobody wants any woman to give birth if she doesn’t want to do so. Many people also do not want an innocent baby to be killed. Both mom and baby matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.

This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.

Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

[…]

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Yes, and now they’ve moved into punishing women for their mere existence.

Women aren’t people in the GOP. You can see this in the posts of the forced birthers.

Nobody wants any woman to give birth if she doesn’t want to do so. Many people also do not want an innocent baby to be killed. Both mom and baby matter.

The idea that an abortion is murder is a minority and wrong view. If you believe it, then don't have an abortion. That is your right and it will be respected. When you try to force that view on others, you are going to face enormous resistance as you should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I don't need an abortion in this moment but I guess I need to wait until I have an ectopic pregnancy and am septic before I'm like. Hey, I should really try to get these laws changed so I don't die.... Yes, that is how everything works

This is the hysterical and factually incorrect poster who also pretends that unborn babies are not alive and not human. Beware listening to the equivalent of antivax, flat earth, moon landing was filmed in a hwood sound studio abortion posters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.

This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.

Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?

It is easy to explain. Reproductive decisions belong to the women. Even trying to outlaw abortion will never change that fact. Our laws should reflect that reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

[…]

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Yes, and now they’ve moved into punishing women for their mere existence.

Women aren’t people in the GOP. You can see this in the posts of the forced birthers.

Nobody wants any woman to give birth if she doesn’t want to do so. Many people also do not want an innocent baby to be killed. Both mom and baby matter.

The idea that an abortion is murder is a minority and wrong view. If you believe it, then don't have an abortion. That is your right and it will be respected. When you try to force that view on others, you are going to face enormous resistance as you should.

How do you define killing a healthy unborn baby?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.

Nope, that's not me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

[…]

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Yes, and now they’ve moved into punishing women for their mere existence.

Women aren’t people in the GOP. You can see this in the posts of the forced birthers.

Nobody wants any woman to give birth if she doesn’t want to do so. Many people also do not want an innocent baby to be killed. Both mom and baby matter.

The idea that an abortion is murder is a minority and wrong view. If you believe it, then don't have an abortion. That is your right and it will be respected. When you try to force that view on others, you are going to face enormous resistance as you should.

How do you define killing a healthy unborn baby?

I favor the protections of roe. I don't believe that a fetus is equivalent to a baby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.

If you believe an embryo is alive and can sustain itself on its own, you have WAY bigger issues than this thread.

Here is the Born alive law from Congress (Republican backed) and the definition of alive:

respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion



No 10 week old embryo has a heart, much less a beating heart and if the umbilical cord isn’t connected to the mother, no oxygen. There aren’t voluntary muscles that the embryo is in charge of yet. The heart isn’t really formed until 17-18 weeks of gestation.
AND
Babies can’t pass air through their lungs (breathe air) until after 23ish weeks.

Looks like multiple posters understand science and one poster is unable to process that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.

This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.

Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?

It is easy to explain. Reproductive decisions belong to the women. Even trying to outlaw abortion will never change that fact. Our laws should reflect that reality.

That doesn’t explain why abortion rates have gone higher despite people claiming reproductive rights have been taken away and abortions are harder or impossible to get for women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

[…]

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Yes, and now they’ve moved into punishing women for their mere existence.

Women aren’t people in the GOP. You can see this in the posts of the forced birthers.

Nobody wants any woman to give birth if she doesn’t want to do so. Many people also do not want an innocent baby to be killed. Both mom and baby matter.

The idea that an abortion is murder is a minority and wrong view. If you believe it, then don't have an abortion. That is your right and it will be respected. When you try to force that view on others, you are going to face enormous resistance as you should.

How do you define killing a healthy unborn baby?

I favor the protections of roe. I don't believe that a fetus is equivalent to a baby.

A fetus is an unborn baby who is developing in his or her mom’s womb like every person on earth did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.

This is the characteristic you are missing. Many many millions of voters are going to the polls to elect candidates that will begin the process of ridding us of your forced birther agenda. Women's reproductive rights will be returned.

Despite Bans, Number of Abortions in the United States Increased in 2023

Updated on May 10, 2024
New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023, the first full calendar year after the US Supreme Court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization overturned Roe v. Wade. This represents a rate of 15.9 abortions per 1,000 women of reproductive age,* and is a 11% increase since 2020, the last year for which comprehensive estimates are available. It is also the highest number and rate measured in the United States in over a decade.
This increase demonstrates that people continue to seek and obtain abortion care despite the drastic reduction in abortion access in many states. Since the Dobbs decision, in 2022.

https://www.guttmacher.org/2024/03/despite-bans-number-abortions-united-states-increased-2023

How do you explain this?

It is easy to explain. Reproductive decisions belong to the women. Even trying to outlaw abortion will never change that fact. Our laws should reflect that reality.

That doesn’t explain why abortion rates have gone higher despite people claiming reproductive rights have been taken away and abortions are harder or impossible to get for women.

Yes it does. The majority are medicated abortions. Do you want to have to carry a pregnancy give birth in this environment where the dangers of an already dangerous process are increased? Well neither to plenty of other women.

But whatever the reasons, they belong to the woman making the decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

[…]

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Yes, and now they’ve moved into punishing women for their mere existence.

Women aren’t people in the GOP. You can see this in the posts of the forced birthers.

Nobody wants any woman to give birth if she doesn’t want to do so. Many people also do not want an innocent baby to be killed. Both mom and baby matter.

The idea that an abortion is murder is a minority and wrong view. If you believe it, then don't have an abortion. That is your right and it will be respected. When you try to force that view on others, you are going to face enormous resistance as you should.

How do you define killing a healthy unborn baby?

I favor the protections of roe. I don't believe that a fetus is equivalent to a baby.

A fetus is an unborn baby who is developing in his or her mom’s womb like every person on earth did.

Again, you should make decisions for yourself based on your beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive.

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice. Everyone will respect your decision. Just stay out of this matter for other women. It does not concern you.

But it concerns you?

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me. Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me. Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me. These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me. One of my DDs was conceived via IVF. They're targeting "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.

If you believe an embryo is alive and can sustain itself on its own, you have WAY bigger issues than this thread.

Here is the Born alive law from Congress (Republican backed) and the definition of alive:

respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion



No 10 week old embryo has a heart, much less a beating heart and if the umbilical cord isn’t connected to the mother, no oxygen. There aren’t voluntary muscles that the embryo is in charge of yet. The heart isn’t really formed until 17-18 weeks of gestation.
AND
Babies can’t pass air through their lungs (breathe air) until after 23ish weeks.

Looks like multiple posters understand science and one poster is unable to process that.

Human embryos from the one-cell (zygote) stage forward show uniquely integrated, organismal behavior that is unlike the behavior of mere human cells. The zygote produces increasingly complex tissues, structures and organs that work together in a coordinated way. Importantly, the cells, tissues and organs produced during development do not somehow “generate” the embryo (as if there were some unseen, mysterious “manufacturer” directing this process), they are produced by the embryo as it directs its own development to more mature stages of human life. This organized, coordinated behavior of the embryo is the defining characteristic of a human organism.