PG Pool

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My elderly neighbor was told that Blacks couldn't join the PG Pool back in the 70s and never felt comfortable joining for years later. Now, there's a 10 year waitlist.

How is that not racist?

Also, to reiterate OPs, pay your taxes.

yeah, that’s kinda racist

Maybe the "Killer Whales" swim team of PG Pool should add a few more Ks to their name.

Hah!

[Anonymous]

There is so much cheating going on when it comes to Marylanders not paying speeding tickets, income taxes or committing school residency fraud in DC. Maybe call it even?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is so much cheating going on when it comes to Marylanders not paying speeding tickets, income taxes or committing school residency fraud in DC. Maybe call it even?

So you are admitting that the PG Pool is cheating on something.... like not paying your taxes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is so much cheating going on when it comes to Marylanders not paying speeding tickets, income taxes or committing school residency fraud in DC. Maybe call it even?

So you are admitting that the PG Pool is cheating on something.... like not paying your taxes?

I couldn't tell you, as I don't know the first thing about the PG Pool. But what is that saying, don't throw stones in a glass house? Like every morning I see crazy MD and VA drivers with paper plates racing through my neighborhood breaking all sorts of traffic laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My elderly neighbor was told that Blacks couldn't join the PG Pool back in the 70s and never felt comfortable joining for years later. Now, there's a 10 year waitlist.

How is that not racist?

Also, to reiterate OPs, pay your taxes.

yeah, that’s kinda racist

Maybe the "Killer Whales" swim team of PG Pool should add a few more Ks to their name.

I totally just got this now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My elderly neighbor was told that Blacks couldn't join the PG Pool back in the 70s and never felt comfortable joining for years later. Now, there's a 10 year waitlist.

How is that not racist?

Also, to reiterate OPs, pay your taxes.

yeah, that’s kinda racist

Blacks not being able to join the pool is racist. Yes.
Not joining the pool when members reached out to encourage all people of all races to join the pool is understandable and certainly a legacy of racism (although beyond reaching out and being welcoming- which are documented facts- I'm not sure what else could have been done to mitigate that legacy.
A 10 year wait list that allows people of all races to sign up and join the pool does not seem racist to me. Everyone is welcome. There are many people of color on the waitlist and more and more become members of the pool every year.
Racism is a real and serious presence in our society, but I'm not connecting all these dots and I certainly haven't read any actually implementable, practical solutions. All that keeps coming is inflammatory accusations which, if you're sincerely trying to solve a problem rather than create one, don't really help.

Why not prioritize people who live in PG on your waitlist?

Why not bump anyone up who lived in Mount Rainier before the 1990s who were likely excluded from joining?

Why not work with the City of Mount Rainier to turn your pool into a true community pool like Greenbelt does?

Why not offer more community days for those living in Mount Rainier?

Why don’t you ask for a fair assessment of your land to ensure that PG County and Mount Rainier get the taxes it deserves? This was surely a legacy of racism.

Why not let all children from Mount Rainier join your children’s swim team?

None of the pool members want to address these types of questions. They just respond by saying that it’s racist past was a “long time ago”, mock PG County and those who live there, say that any critique they don’t like is motivated by one’s place on the waitlist, or say there’s nothing they can do about it. Shame on them.

Very simple. They do not want to. PGP is a private pool and likely has no interest in your views (assuming you do not belong). Not everyone is interested in your views on this non-issue. PGP clearly needs more pools, so lobby the PGP politicians.

[Anonymous]

Can’t believe the termites that curate this site allow some of these posts. I’ve had much more innocuous comments removed.

[Anonymous]

PG Pool member here. I don’t know why these threads always degenerate so badly. I think the waiting list creates a lot of bad feelings. It’s hard to imagine that not too long ago, the pool almost closed because not enough folks were interested.

There is some history of the pool on the website for those who are interested: https://pgpool.org/about/the-raymond-bowlding-pavilion/. As non-black POC, we have always found the pool to be very welcoming and laid-back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PG Pool member here. I don’t know why these threads always degenerate so badly. I think the waiting list creates a lot of bad feelings. It’s hard to imagine that not too long ago, the pool almost closed because not enough folks were interested.

There is some history of the pool on the website for those who are interested: https://pgpool.org/about/the-raymond-bowlding-pavilion/. As non-black POC, we have always found the pool to be very welcoming and laid-back.

why is your pool under-assessed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My elderly neighbor was told that Blacks couldn't join the PG Pool back in the 70s and never felt comfortable joining for years later. Now, there's a 10 year waitlist.

How is that not racist?

Also, to reiterate OPs, pay your taxes.

yeah, that’s kinda racist

Blacks not being able to join the pool is racist. Yes.
Not joining the pool when members reached out to encourage all people of all races to join the pool is understandable and certainly a legacy of racism (although beyond reaching out and being welcoming- which are documented facts- I'm not sure what else could have been done to mitigate that legacy.
A 10 year wait list that allows people of all races to sign up and join the pool does not seem racist to me. Everyone is welcome. There are many people of color on the waitlist and more and more become members of the pool every year.
Racism is a real and serious presence in our society, but I'm not connecting all these dots and I certainly haven't read any actually implementable, practical solutions. All that keeps coming is inflammatory accusations which, if you're sincerely trying to solve a problem rather than create one, don't really help.

Why not prioritize people who live in PG on your waitlist?

Why not bump anyone up who lived in Mount Rainier before the 1990s who were likely excluded from joining?

Why not work with the City of Mount Rainier to turn your pool into a true community pool like Greenbelt does?

Why not offer more community days for those living in Mount Rainier?

Why don’t you ask for a fair assessment of your land to ensure that PG County and Mount Rainier get the taxes it deserves? This was surely a legacy of racism.

Why not let all children from Mount Rainier join your children’s swim team?

None of the pool members want to address these types of questions. They just respond by saying that it’s racist past was a “long time ago”, mock PG County and those who live there, say that any critique they don’t like is motivated by one’s place on the waitlist, or say there’s nothing they can do about it. Shame on them.

Very simple. They do not want to. PGP is a private pool and likely has no interest in your views (assuming you do not belong). Not everyone is interested in your views on this non-issue. PGP clearly needs more pools, so lobby the PGP politicians.

I'm not the OP and that's fine if this private pool doesn't want to but don't be surprised when the community lobbies its politicians to increase your taxes or at least review your assessment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PG Pool member here. I don’t know why these threads always degenerate so badly. I think the waiting list creates a lot of bad feelings. It’s hard to imagine that not too long ago, the pool almost closed because not enough folks were interested.

There is some history of the pool on the website for those who are interested: https://pgpool.org/about/the-raymond-bowlding-pavilion/. As non-black POC, we have always found the pool to be very welcoming and laid-back.

why is your pool under-assessed?

The only place I’ve heard it was under-assessed is in this thread. It seems like the county is addressing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My elderly neighbor was told that Blacks couldn't join the PG Pool back in the 70s and never felt comfortable joining for years later. Now, there's a 10 year waitlist.

How is that not racist?

Also, to reiterate OPs, pay your taxes.

yeah, that’s kinda racist

Blacks not being able to join the pool is racist. Yes.
Not joining the pool when members reached out to encourage all people of all races to join the pool is understandable and certainly a legacy of racism (although beyond reaching out and being welcoming- which are documented facts- I'm not sure what else could have been done to mitigate that legacy.
A 10 year wait list that allows people of all races to sign up and join the pool does not seem racist to me. Everyone is welcome. There are many people of color on the waitlist and more and more become members of the pool every year.
Racism is a real and serious presence in our society, but I'm not connecting all these dots and I certainly haven't read any actually implementable, practical solutions. All that keeps coming is inflammatory accusations which, if you're sincerely trying to solve a problem rather than create one, don't really help.

Why not prioritize people who live in PG on your waitlist?

Why not bump anyone up who lived in Mount Rainier before the 1990s who were likely excluded from joining?

Why not work with the City of Mount Rainier to turn your pool into a true community pool like Greenbelt does?

Why not offer more community days for those living in Mount Rainier?

Why don’t you ask for a fair assessment of your land to ensure that PG County and Mount Rainier get the taxes it deserves? This was surely a legacy of racism.

Why not let all children from Mount Rainier join your children’s swim team?

None of the pool members want to address these types of questions. They just respond by saying that it’s racist past was a “long time ago”, mock PG County and those who live there, say that any critique they don’t like is motivated by one’s place on the waitlist, or say there’s nothing they can do about it. Shame on them.

Very simple. They do not want to. PGP is a private pool and likely has no interest in your views (assuming you do not belong). Not everyone is interested in your views on this non-issue. PGP clearly needs more pools, so lobby the PGP politicians.

I'm not the OP and that's fine if this private pool doesn't want to but don't be surprised when the community lobbies its politicians to increase your taxes or at least review your assessment.

I hope the community is also lobbying its politicians to address the very real demand for public recreation facilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My elderly neighbor was told that Blacks couldn't join the PG Pool back in the 70s and never felt comfortable joining for years later. Now, there's a 10 year waitlist.

How is that not racist?

Also, to reiterate OPs, pay your taxes.

yeah, that’s kinda racist

Blacks not being able to join the pool is racist. Yes.
Not joining the pool when members reached out to encourage all people of all races to join the pool is understandable and certainly a legacy of racism (although beyond reaching out and being welcoming- which are documented facts- I'm not sure what else could have been done to mitigate that legacy.
A 10 year wait list that allows people of all races to sign up and join the pool does not seem racist to me. Everyone is welcome. There are many people of color on the waitlist and more and more become members of the pool every year.
Racism is a real and serious presence in our society, but I'm not connecting all these dots and I certainly haven't read any actually implementable, practical solutions. All that keeps coming is inflammatory accusations which, if you're sincerely trying to solve a problem rather than create one, don't really help.

Why not prioritize people who live in PG on your waitlist?

Why not bump anyone up who lived in Mount Rainier before the 1990s who were likely excluded from joining?

Why not work with the City of Mount Rainier to turn your pool into a true community pool like Greenbelt does?

Why not offer more community days for those living in Mount Rainier?

Why don’t you ask for a fair assessment of your land to ensure that PG County and Mount Rainier get the taxes it deserves? This was surely a legacy of racism.

Why not let all children from Mount Rainier join your children’s swim team?

None of the pool members want to address these types of questions. They just respond by saying that it’s racist past was a “long time ago”, mock PG County and those who live there, say that any critique they don’t like is motivated by one’s place on the waitlist, or say there’s nothing they can do about it. Shame on them.

Very simple. They do not want to. PGP is a private pool and likely has no interest in your views (assuming you do not belong). Not everyone is interested in your views on this non-issue. PGP clearly needs more pools, so lobby the PGP politicians.

I'm not the OP and that's fine if this private pool doesn't want to but don't be surprised when the community lobbies its politicians to increase your taxes or at least review your assessment.

I hope the community is also lobbying its politicians to address the very real demand for public recreation facilities.

Why? There's a pool in a backyard but it didn't allow the community to join for decades and is avoiding paying taxes.

[Anonymous]

Sheesh, so many sour grapes who are just bitter about the very long wait list

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sheesh, so many sour grapes who are just bitter about the very long wait list

I know! So glad there’s a giant wall around our wonderful (private) pool community to keep this rift raft out!