Just Abortion theory

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If life begins at conception, why don’t we use our conception dates to decide who is old enough to drink or go to kindergarten?
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Anonymous wrote:If life begins at conception, why don’t we use our conception dates to decide who is old enough to drink or go to kindergarten?


Might get tricky for my kids who were frozen embryos for 2 years.
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Anonymous wrote:Women don’t get the anatomy scan until 20w. Any ban before 24w isn’t realistic.


92% of abortions are prior to 13 weeks and many states had limits on voluntary abortion at 16 weeks. Most of the rest were done by 22 weeks. Only a tiny minority were conducted during third trimester and almost always for medical reasons. It was much more realistic than what the anti abortion states have now.


22w leaves very little time to have u/s scheduled, maybe get 2nd opinion, make decisions, and schedule procedures.


Prior to DOBs, 98-99% of women had abortions before 22 weeks … there was legal room for medical considerations after that if either life of mother or health of fetus is severely compromised after that time.


I don’t trust ignorant legislators to tease this out.

But I do trust doctors.

24w is minimum.


Well that was the federal standard pre Dobbs but many states enacted state bans at 16 weeks and even earlier. There was room for doctors to justify medical need later stages - but not common.

I would take 16 weeks over what the red states have now. So many women forced to give birth to children they can’t support - and endanger their ability to care for their existing children. The majority of women who aborted were single with other minors to care for.

The 24 criteria is ideal in terms of indicating medical non viability of fetus outside the womb .., However, IMO, this is not a hill to die on if the aim is to support as many women’s right to choose as possible in ways that a majority can live with. There have been studies in red states that most people do not feel Comfortable with abortions after 16 weeks or so unless it is medically indicated.


It was the standard before the religious zealots took over because that is the appropriate standard.

We won’t get anywhere until they are the minority/gone.


America is divided and we need to find compromises a majority can live with

The majority was fine with Roe which was a compromise. The zealots threw it away.
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Anonymous wrote:This absolutely exists in Judaism and Islam. I know there are Christian scholars who have looked into this kind of thing, but the extreme conservatism on abortion in Christianity seems to be mostly an evangelical and Catholic obsession.

I would argue that the reason most "pro-life" people have the attitude that they do, is because they simply don't trust women. A concern for "life" or "babies" is a facade, and so is using religion as a justification.

There's also an economical component to banning abortion, obviously.


I agree. It's about mistrust of women and a desire to control and punish them.


OP - yes I agree also.

My Christian tradition allows women to be fully engaged in church life as ordained ministers and supports many human rights issues as a matter of faith and morality. I am aware that not all Christian traditions trust and respect women as leaders and as competent people.

The harms being done to so many women and girls via these anti abortion laws are horrific. Women and girls are dying giving birth at far higher rates in red states with antiabortion laws. Hospitals in many red states are closing their maternity units and services as the costs and risks are too high with all the political interference in medical decisions. Rates of child poverty are far higher in states with antiabortion laws.

However, I do know that many people of faith who are highly uncomfortable with abortion and feel it is a moral gray area from a faith perspective
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I think it would help to have clear theological articulation of when abortion is justified and moral.

This theory would not replace arguments for female human rights to determine what happens to their bodies and lives or medical approaches for when and how abortions should be carried out.

Just Abortion Theory could provide religious framework for understanding how abortion rights are morally necessary because often terminating pregnancies in safe medical ways is justified and the lesser of likely bad outcomes.


But when actually dissected, you'll find that the VAST majority of "pro-life" supporters do not support services and initiatives that reduce abortions and help women, children, and babies. These same people frequently do not support social services, universal health care, easily and freely accessible contraception, honest sex education, paid maternity leave, paying people living wages, etc.




I am not sure that is true.

They are distinct issues. There will be overlap for sure: but they are not one and the same in every case. You are assuming that.

The core issue related to abortion rights is that women’s human rights are being eroded in the name of religious beliefs.

It is important for Christians who support women’s human rights and abortion rights to defend this from a moral faith perspective (relying on medicine and science to support claims of likely harms).

I am tired of right wingers misusing this as a wedge issue to sanctimoniously claim the moral high ground, which is not theirs to take.

+1
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Anonymous wrote:
https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/report/key-facts-on-abortion-in-the-united-states/#Who-gets-abortions

* More than half of abortions were among women of color. Black women comprised 39% of abortion recipients, 33% were provided to White women, 21% to Hispanic women, and 7% were among women of other races/ethnicities.
* Many women who seek abortions have children. Nearly six in 10 (61%) abortion patients in 2020 had at least one previous birth.

The vast majority (92%) of abortions occur during the first trimester of pregnancy according to data available from before the Dobbs decision.

Before the 2022 ruling in Dobbs, there was a federal constitutional right to abortion before the pregnancy is considered to be viable, that is, can survive outside of a pregnant person’s uterus. Viability is generally considered around 24 weeks of pregnancy. Most abortions, though, occur well before the point of fetal viability.
* Four in ten (40%) abortions occur by six weeks of gestation, another four in ten (39%) are between seven and nine weeks, and 13% at 10-13 weeks. Just 8% of abortions occur after the first trimester.
* Prior to the decision in the Dobbs case, almost half of states (22) had enacted laws that ban abortion at a certain gestational age. Most of these limits are in the second trimester, but some are in the first trimester, well before fetal viability.


https://prochoice.org/wp-content/uploads/women_who_have_abortions.pdf

Age
Women between the ages of 15 and 19 account for about 19% of all abortions; women 20 to 24 account for another 33%; and about 25% of abortions are obtained by women who are 30 or older4. Calculating abortion rates, older teenagers and young adults have the highest abortion rates, while women younger than 15 and older than 35 have the lowest.

MYTH: Women have abortions for selfish or frivolous reasons.

The decision to have an abortion is rarely simple. Most women base their decision on several factors, the most common being lack of money and/or unreadiness to start or expand their families due to existing responsibilities. Many feel that the most responsible course of action is to wait until their situation is more suited to childrearing; 66% plan to have children when they are older, financially able to provide necessities for them, and/or in a supportive relationship with a partner so their children will have two parents8. Others wanted to get pregnant but developed serious medical problems, learned that the fetus had severe abnormalities, or experienced some other personal crisis. About 13,000 women each year have abortions because they have become pregnant as a result of rape or incest1.

MYTH: Women are often forced into having abortions they do not really want.

Some women say that pressure from a husband, partner, or parent was one of several reasons they chose abortion, but only about 1% give that reason as the "most important" one in making their decision9. Conversely, some women who do not want to continue their pregnancies are pressured to do so by family members, friends, or fear of social stigma. Pre- abortion options counseling is designed to determine whether a woman is fully comfortable with her abortion decision, and if she is not, she is encouraged to wait until she has had a chance to consider her options more fully.

MYTH: Many women come to regret their abortions later.

Research indicates that relief is the most common emotional response following abortion, and that psychological distress appears to be greatest before, rather than after, an abortion.
There are undoubtedly some women who, in hindsight, wish that they had made different choices, and the majority would prefer never to have become pregnant when the circumstances were not right for them. When a wanted pregnancy is ended (for medical reasons, for example) women may experience a sense of loss and grief. As with any major change or decision involving loss, a crisis later in life sometimes leads to a temporary resurfacing of sad feelings surrounding the abortion.

MYTH: Women are using abortion as a method of birth control.

In fact, half of all women getting abortions report that contraception was used during the month they became pregnant1. Some of these couples had used the method improperly; some had forgotten or neglected to use it on the particular occasion they conceived; and some had used a contraceptive that failed. No contraceptive method prevents pregnancy 100% of the time.


Does it make you feel better if you kill your baby that’s 2 days instead of 2 years old?


Does it make you feel better knowing no one kills babies at all? This is a thread about abortion, not infanticide.
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https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/report/key-facts-on-abortion-in-the-united-states/#Who-gets-abortions

* More than half of abortions were among women of color. Black women comprised 39% of abortion recipients, 33% were provided to White women, 21% to Hispanic women, and 7% were among women of other races/ethnicities.
* Many women who seek abortions have children. Nearly six in 10 (61%) abortion patients in 2020 had at least one previous birth.

The vast majority (92%) of abortions occur during the first trimester of pregnancy according to data available from before the Dobbs decision.

Before the 2022 ruling in Dobbs, there was a federal constitutional right to abortion before the pregnancy is considered to be viable, that is, can survive outside of a pregnant person’s uterus. Viability is generally considered around 24 weeks of pregnancy. Most abortions, though, occur well before the point of fetal viability.
* Four in ten (40%) abortions occur by six weeks of gestation, another four in ten (39%) are between seven and nine weeks, and 13% at 10-13 weeks. Just 8% of abortions occur after the first trimester.
* Prior to the decision in the Dobbs case, almost half of states (22) had enacted laws that ban abortion at a certain gestational age. Most of these limits are in the second trimester, but some are in the first trimester, well before fetal viability.


https://prochoice.org/wp-content/uploads/women_who_have_abortions.pdf

Age
Women between the ages of 15 and 19 account for about 19% of all abortions; women 20 to 24 account for another 33%; and about 25% of abortions are obtained by women who are 30 or older4. Calculating abortion rates, older teenagers and young adults have the highest abortion rates, while women younger than 15 and older than 35 have the lowest.

MYTH: Women have abortions for selfish or frivolous reasons.

The decision to have an abortion is rarely simple. Most women base their decision on several factors, the most common being lack of money and/or unreadiness to start or expand their families due to existing responsibilities. Many feel that the most responsible course of action is to wait until their situation is more suited to childrearing; 66% plan to have children when they are older, financially able to provide necessities for them, and/or in a supportive relationship with a partner so their children will have two parents8. Others wanted to get pregnant but developed serious medical problems, learned that the fetus had severe abnormalities, or experienced some other personal crisis. About 13,000 women each year have abortions because they have become pregnant as a result of rape or incest1.

MYTH: Women are often forced into having abortions they do not really want.

Some women say that pressure from a husband, partner, or parent was one of several reasons they chose abortion, but only about 1% give that reason as the "most important" one in making their decision9. Conversely, some women who do not want to continue their pregnancies are pressured to do so by family members, friends, or fear of social stigma. Pre- abortion options counseling is designed to determine whether a woman is fully comfortable with her abortion decision, and if she is not, she is encouraged to wait until she has had a chance to consider her options more fully.

MYTH: Many women come to regret their abortions later.

Research indicates that relief is the most common emotional response following abortion, and that psychological distress appears to be greatest before, rather than after, an abortion.
There are undoubtedly some women who, in hindsight, wish that they had made different choices, and the majority would prefer never to have become pregnant when the circumstances were not right for them. When a wanted pregnancy is ended (for medical reasons, for example) women may experience a sense of loss and grief. As with any major change or decision involving loss, a crisis later in life sometimes leads to a temporary resurfacing of sad feelings surrounding the abortion.

MYTH: Women are using abortion as a method of birth control.

In fact, half of all women getting abortions report that contraception was used during the month they became pregnant1. Some of these couples had used the method improperly; some had forgotten or neglected to use it on the particular occasion they conceived; and some had used a contraceptive that failed. No contraceptive method prevents pregnancy 100% of the time.


Does it make you feel better if you kill your baby that’s 2 days instead of 2 years old?


12 week old embryos are not babies. More than 9 out of 10 women who have abortions do so before 13 weeks

I have never had an abortion and will never need one.

However I understand that it is not for me to make this decision for other women who are in very different circumstances .

Does getting in your high horse about abortion make you feel better about doing nothing to promote the dignity and sanctity of existing human life ?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/report/key-facts-on-abortion-in-the-united-states/#Who-gets-abortions

* More than half of abortions were among women of color. Black women comprised 39% of abortion recipients, 33% were provided to White women, 21% to Hispanic women, and 7% were among women of other races/ethnicities.
* Many women who seek abortions have children. Nearly six in 10 (61%) abortion patients in 2020 had at least one previous birth.

The vast majority (92%) of abortions occur during the first trimester of pregnancy according to data available from before the Dobbs decision.

Before the 2022 ruling in Dobbs, there was a federal constitutional right to abortion before the pregnancy is considered to be viable, that is, can survive outside of a pregnant person’s uterus. Viability is generally considered around 24 weeks of pregnancy. Most abortions, though, occur well before the point of fetal viability.
* Four in ten (40%) abortions occur by six weeks of gestation, another four in ten (39%) are between seven and nine weeks, and 13% at 10-13 weeks. Just 8% of abortions occur after the first trimester.
* Prior to the decision in the Dobbs case, almost half of states (22) had enacted laws that ban abortion at a certain gestational age. Most of these limits are in the second trimester, but some are in the first trimester, well before fetal viability.


https://prochoice.org/wp-content/uploads/women_who_have_abortions.pdf

Age
Women between the ages of 15 and 19 account for about 19% of all abortions; women 20 to 24 account for another 33%; and about 25% of abortions are obtained by women who are 30 or older4. Calculating abortion rates, older teenagers and young adults have the highest abortion rates, while women younger than 15 and older than 35 have the lowest.

MYTH: Women have abortions for selfish or frivolous reasons.

The decision to have an abortion is rarely simple. Most women base their decision on several factors, the most common being lack of money and/or unreadiness to start or expand their families due to existing responsibilities. Many feel that the most responsible course of action is to wait until their situation is more suited to childrearing; 66% plan to have children when they are older, financially able to provide necessities for them, and/or in a supportive relationship with a partner so their children will have two parents8. Others wanted to get pregnant but developed serious medical problems, learned that the fetus had severe abnormalities, or experienced some other personal crisis. About 13,000 women each year have abortions because they have become pregnant as a result of rape or incest1.

MYTH: Women are often forced into having abortions they do not really want.

Some women say that pressure from a husband, partner, or parent was one of several reasons they chose abortion, but only about 1% give that reason as the "most important" one in making their decision9. Conversely, some women who do not want to continue their pregnancies are pressured to do so by family members, friends, or fear of social stigma. Pre- abortion options counseling is designed to determine whether a woman is fully comfortable with her abortion decision, and if she is not, she is encouraged to wait until she has had a chance to consider her options more fully.

MYTH: Many women come to regret their abortions later.

Research indicates that relief is the most common emotional response following abortion, and that psychological distress appears to be greatest before, rather than after, an abortion.
There are undoubtedly some women who, in hindsight, wish that they had made different choices, and the majority would prefer never to have become pregnant when the circumstances were not right for them. When a wanted pregnancy is ended (for medical reasons, for example) women may experience a sense of loss and grief. As with any major change or decision involving loss, a crisis later in life sometimes leads to a temporary resurfacing of sad feelings surrounding the abortion.

MYTH: Women are using abortion as a method of birth control.

In fact, half of all women getting abortions report that contraception was used during the month they became pregnant1. Some of these couples had used the method improperly; some had forgotten or neglected to use it on the particular occasion they conceived; and some had used a contraceptive that failed. No contraceptive method prevents pregnancy 100% of the time.


Does it make you feel better if you kill your baby that’s 2 days instead of 2 years old?


12 week old embryos are not babies. More than 9 out of 10 women who have abortions do so before 13 weeks

I have never had an abortion and will never need one.

However I understand that it is not for me to make this decision for other women who are in very different circumstances .

Does getting in your high horse about abortion make you feel better about doing nothing to promote the dignity and sanctity of existing human life ?


From the moment the sperm fertilizes the egg, there is a baby inside the mother’s womb.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/report/key-facts-on-abortion-in-the-united-states/#Who-gets-abortions

* More than half of abortions were among women of color. Black women comprised 39% of abortion recipients, 33% were provided to White women, 21% to Hispanic women, and 7% were among women of other races/ethnicities.
* Many women who seek abortions have children. Nearly six in 10 (61%) abortion patients in 2020 had at least one previous birth.

The vast majority (92%) of abortions occur during the first trimester of pregnancy according to data available from before the Dobbs decision.

Before the 2022 ruling in Dobbs, there was a federal constitutional right to abortion before the pregnancy is considered to be viable, that is, can survive outside of a pregnant person’s uterus. Viability is generally considered around 24 weeks of pregnancy. Most abortions, though, occur well before the point of fetal viability.
* Four in ten (40%) abortions occur by six weeks of gestation, another four in ten (39%) are between seven and nine weeks, and 13% at 10-13 weeks. Just 8% of abortions occur after the first trimester.
* Prior to the decision in the Dobbs case, almost half of states (22) had enacted laws that ban abortion at a certain gestational age. Most of these limits are in the second trimester, but some are in the first trimester, well before fetal viability.


https://prochoice.org/wp-content/uploads/women_who_have_abortions.pdf

Age
Women between the ages of 15 and 19 account for about 19% of all abortions; women 20 to 24 account for another 33%; and about 25% of abortions are obtained by women who are 30 or older4. Calculating abortion rates, older teenagers and young adults have the highest abortion rates, while women younger than 15 and older than 35 have the lowest.

MYTH: Women have abortions for selfish or frivolous reasons.

The decision to have an abortion is rarely simple. Most women base their decision on several factors, the most common being lack of money and/or unreadiness to start or expand their families due to existing responsibilities. Many feel that the most responsible course of action is to wait until their situation is more suited to childrearing; 66% plan to have children when they are older, financially able to provide necessities for them, and/or in a supportive relationship with a partner so their children will have two parents8. Others wanted to get pregnant but developed serious medical problems, learned that the fetus had severe abnormalities, or experienced some other personal crisis. About 13,000 women each year have abortions because they have become pregnant as a result of rape or incest1.

MYTH: Women are often forced into having abortions they do not really want.

Some women say that pressure from a husband, partner, or parent was one of several reasons they chose abortion, but only about 1% give that reason as the "most important" one in making their decision9. Conversely, some women who do not want to continue their pregnancies are pressured to do so by family members, friends, or fear of social stigma. Pre- abortion options counseling is designed to determine whether a woman is fully comfortable with her abortion decision, and if she is not, she is encouraged to wait until she has had a chance to consider her options more fully.

MYTH: Many women come to regret their abortions later.

Research indicates that relief is the most common emotional response following abortion, and that psychological distress appears to be greatest before, rather than after, an abortion.
There are undoubtedly some women who, in hindsight, wish that they had made different choices, and the majority would prefer never to have become pregnant when the circumstances were not right for them. When a wanted pregnancy is ended (for medical reasons, for example) women may experience a sense of loss and grief. As with any major change or decision involving loss, a crisis later in life sometimes leads to a temporary resurfacing of sad feelings surrounding the abortion.

MYTH: Women are using abortion as a method of birth control.

In fact, half of all women getting abortions report that contraception was used during the month they became pregnant1. Some of these couples had used the method improperly; some had forgotten or neglected to use it on the particular occasion they conceived; and some had used a contraceptive that failed. No contraceptive method prevents pregnancy 100% of the time.


Does it make you feel better if you kill your baby that’s 2 days instead of 2 years old?


12 week old embryos are not babies. More than 9 out of 10 women who have abortions do so before 13 weeks

I have never had an abortion and will never need one.

However I understand that it is not for me to make this decision for other women who are in very different circumstances .

Does getting in your high horse about abortion make you feel better about doing nothing to promote the dignity and sanctity of existing human life ?


From the moment the sperm fertilizes the egg, there is a baby inside the mother’s womb.


And it's hers to do with as she will.
Anonymous
So, if you believe that every time a sperm fertilizes and egg a baby is created, then you have to recognize that most women who have children have multiple babies that died. After all, only 30% of fertilized eggs make it delivery.

If I knew that an action I was taking, such as having unprotected sex with my husband, had a 50% chance of leading to a dead baby, I'd never do it again. How do people who actually believe that an egg that fertilizes and doesn't implant is equal to a born child live with themselves? How do they not become celibate?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So, if you believe that every time a sperm fertilizes and egg a baby is created, then you have to recognize that most women who have children have multiple babies that died. After all, only 30% of fertilized eggs make it delivery.

If I knew that an action I was taking, such as having unprotected sex with my husband, had a 50% chance of leading to a dead baby, I'd never do it again. How do people who actually believe that an egg that fertilizes and doesn't implant is equal to a born child live with themselves? How do they not become celibate?


Pretty sure the PP has never had sex. Very clueless.
Anonymous
And now the extremists are going after Plan B’s key ingredient Mifepristone. A stay is in effect for 7 days. If the ban on FDA’s approval of it is allowed to go into effect this could also impact chemotherapy drugs, asthma medicine, blood pressure pills, and insulin .., more medical collateral damage due to anti abortion extremism.

From Heather Cox Richardson’s well researched daily newsletter for yesterday April 7.

This Friday night’s news dump is a biggie: Texas judge Matthew Kacsmaryk, an antiabortion Trump appointee, has ruled that the Food and Drug Administration’s approval of the drug mifepristone in 2000 was flawed and must be suspended. In the 23 years since its approval, the drug has been widely proved to be safe, and this is the first time a court has ordered the FDA to remove a drug from the market.

Mifepristone is used to induce abortions as well as for other medical applications. Although the Supreme Court argued last year in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health, which overturned the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion, that getting rid of Roe would enable states to make their own decisions about abortion, Kacsmaryk’s decision would remove mifepristone across the entire United States. Mifepristone accounts for about 53% of medically induced abortions.

Vice President Kamala Harris, who has led the administration's policy on reproductive rights, noted that Kacsmaryk’s decision does not simply impact abortion: it opens the door to politicizing chemotherapy drugs, asthma medicine, blood pressure pills, insulin, and so on.

Kacsmaryk also said that mailing mifepristone across state lines is illegal based on the Comstock Act, which Congress passed in 1873, making it illegal to send contraceptive materials through the mail. He went further than that, though, going far beyond the Dobbs decision to embrace the concept that a fertilized egg is an “unborn human” from the time of conception.

He stayed the ruling for a week to give the government time to respond.

President Joe Biden vowed to fight the ruling. He noted that the Department of Justice has already filed an appeal and will seek an immediate stay. “But let’s be clear,” he wrote, “the only way to stop those who are committed to taking away women’s rights and freedoms in every state is to elect a Congress who will pass a law restoring Roe versus Wade. Vice President Harris and I will continue to lead the fight to protect a woman’s right to an abortion, and to make her own decisions about her own health. That is our commitment.”

Less than an hour after Kacsmaryk’s ruling, federal judge Thomas O. Rice in Washington state issued an injunction prohibiting the FDA from pulling mifepristone from the market

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And now the extremists are going after Plan B’s key ingredient Mifepristone. A stay is in effect for 7 days. If the ban on FDA’s approval of it is allowed to go into effect this could also impact chemotherapy drugs, asthma medicine, blood pressure pills, and insulin .., more medical collateral damage due to anti abortion extremism.

From Heather Cox Richardson’s well researched daily newsletter for yesterday April 7.

This Friday night’s news dump is a biggie: Texas judge Matthew Kacsmaryk, an antiabortion Trump appointee, has ruled that the Food and Drug Administration’s approval of the drug mifepristone in 2000 was flawed and must be suspended. In the 23 years since its approval, the drug has been widely proved to be safe, and this is the first time a court has ordered the FDA to remove a drug from the market.

Mifepristone is used to induce abortions as well as for other medical applications. Although the Supreme Court argued last year in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health, which overturned the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion, that getting rid of Roe would enable states to make their own decisions about abortion, Kacsmaryk’s decision would remove mifepristone across the entire United States. Mifepristone accounts for about 53% of medically induced abortions.

Vice President Kamala Harris, who has led the administration's policy on reproductive rights, noted that Kacsmaryk’s decision does not simply impact abortion: it opens the door to politicizing chemotherapy drugs, asthma medicine, blood pressure pills, insulin, and so on.

Kacsmaryk also said that mailing mifepristone across state lines is illegal based on the Comstock Act, which Congress passed in 1873, making it illegal to send contraceptive materials through the mail. He went further than that, though, going far beyond the Dobbs decision to embrace the concept that a fertilized egg is an “unborn human” from the time of conception.

He stayed the ruling for a week to give the government time to respond.

President Joe Biden vowed to fight the ruling. He noted that the Department of Justice has already filed an appeal and will seek an immediate stay. “But let’s be clear,” he wrote, “the only way to stop those who are committed to taking away women’s rights and freedoms in every state is to elect a Congress who will pass a law restoring Roe versus Wade. Vice President Harris and I will continue to lead the fight to protect a woman’s right to an abortion, and to make her own decisions about her own health. That is our commitment.”

Less than an hour after Kacsmaryk’s ruling, federal judge Thomas O. Rice in Washington state issued an injunction prohibiting the FDA from pulling mifepristone from the market



Mifepristone is not Plan B.
Anonymous
^^^

Thank you for clarification. I have never used any of them but would not want medically safe options for preventing early pregnancies from proceeding in effect. Especially since this one is used for other medical purposes.

I want medical professionals making these decisions about what is safe not Trump appointed Christian Taliban judges.

What Happens in a Medication Abortion?
The “abortion pill” is the common name in the United States for using two different medications — mifepristone and misoprostol — to end an early pregnancy. In general, it is used up to 70 days, or 10 weeks, after the first day of your last menstrual period.
1. Mifepristone works by blocking the hormone progesterone. Without progesterone, the lining of the uterus breaks down and the pregnancy cannot continue.
2. Misoprostol, the second medication, is taken either right away or up to 48 hours later and causes the uterus to empty. It’s like having a heavy, crampy period and is very similar to an early miscarriage.
Medication abortion is extremely effective in ending an early pregnancy, working approximately 95-99% of the time, and gives patients the option to end their pregnancy at home or in another setting in which they feel comfortable, while still providing them with the medical support and information they need.
A growing number of patients in the United States are choosing to end their pregnancy with medication abortion. In fact, in 2014, nearly one in three people seeking abortion outside of a hospital used medication abortion.
The World Health Organization has concluded that misoprostol, taken in certain doses, can be used safely and effectively to end an early pregnancy in situations where using the combination of both mifepristone and misoprostol is not available — although taking only misoprostol is less effective than the combined mifepristone/misoprostol regimen. In the United States, the FDA-approved regimen is for patients to take both mifepristone and misoprostol.


The Morning-After Pill
Also known as emergency contraception, the morning-after pill contains medication that reduces the risk of pregnancy if started within 120 hours (five days) of unprotected intercourse. Levonorgestrel EC pills, like Plan B One-Step (R), Next Choice One Dose (R) and other generics contain the hormone progestin. They are available over the counter at drugstores without age restriction. ella®, which contains ulipristal acetate (UPA), and certain brands of oral contraception taken in increased doses for use as emergency contraception require a prescription at any age (Barr Pharmaceuticals, 2006; Glasier, 2010; RHTP, 2009; Rodrigues et al., 2001; Van Look & Stewart, 1998).

The Abortion Pill
Also known as medication abortion,
the abortion pill contains medication called mifepristone to induce abortion. Mifepristone (Mifeprex®) can be taken under supervision up to 70 days after the first day of the last menstrual period. It
is used in conjunction with misoprostol, which is taken later to complete the abortion (Creinin & Aubény, 1999; Middleton et al., 2005; Schaff et al., 2000; Schaff et al., 2001).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^^

Thank you for clarification. I have never used any of them but would not want medically safe options for preventing early pregnancies from proceeding in effect. Especially since this one is used for other medical purposes.

I want medical professionals making these decisions about what is safe not Trump appointed Christian Taliban judges.

What Happens in a Medication Abortion?
The “abortion pill” is the common name in the United States for using two different medications — mifepristone and misoprostol — to end an early pregnancy. In general, it is used up to 70 days, or 10 weeks, after the first day of your last menstrual period.
1. Mifepristone works by blocking the hormone progesterone. Without progesterone, the lining of the uterus breaks down and the pregnancy cannot continue.
2. Misoprostol, the second medication, is taken either right away or up to 48 hours later and causes the uterus to empty. It’s like having a heavy, crampy period and is very similar to an early miscarriage.
Medication abortion is extremely effective in ending an early pregnancy, working approximately 95-99% of the time, and gives patients the option to end their pregnancy at home or in another setting in which they feel comfortable, while still providing them with the medical support and information they need.
A growing number of patients in the United States are choosing to end their pregnancy with medication abortion. In fact, in 2014, nearly one in three people seeking abortion outside of a hospital used medication abortion.
The World Health Organization has concluded that misoprostol, taken in certain doses, can be used safely and effectively to end an early pregnancy in situations where using the combination of both mifepristone and misoprostol is not available — although taking only misoprostol is less effective than the combined mifepristone/misoprostol regimen. In the United States, the FDA-approved regimen is for patients to take both mifepristone and misoprostol.


The Morning-After Pill
Also known as emergency contraception, the morning-after pill contains medication that reduces the risk of pregnancy if started within 120 hours (five days) of unprotected intercourse. Levonorgestrel EC pills, like Plan B One-Step (R), Next Choice One Dose (R) and other generics contain the hormone progestin. They are available over the counter at drugstores without age restriction. ella®, which contains ulipristal acetate (UPA), and certain brands of oral contraception taken in increased doses for use as emergency contraception require a prescription at any age (Barr Pharmaceuticals, 2006; Glasier, 2010; RHTP, 2009; Rodrigues et al., 2001; Van Look & Stewart, 1998).

The Abortion Pill
Also known as medication abortion,
the abortion pill contains medication called mifepristone to induce abortion. Mifepristone (Mifeprex®) can be taken under supervision up to 70 days after the first day of the last menstrual period. It
is used in conjunction with misoprostol, which is taken later to complete the abortion (Creinin & Aubény, 1999; Middleton et al., 2005; Schaff et al., 2000; Schaff et al., 2001).


Should say I do not want bans on medically safe options - especially declared by non medical judges.
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Anonymous wrote:And now the extremists are going after Plan B’s key ingredient Mifepristone. A stay is in effect for 7 days. If the ban on FDA’s approval of it is allowed to go into effect this could also impact chemotherapy drugs, asthma medicine, blood pressure pills, and insulin .., more medical collateral damage due to anti abortion extremism.

From Heather Cox Richardson’s well researched daily newsletter for yesterday April 7.

This Friday night’s news dump is a biggie: Texas judge Matthew Kacsmaryk, an antiabortion Trump appointee, has ruled that the Food and Drug Administration’s approval of the drug mifepristone in 2000 was flawed and must be suspended. In the 23 years since its approval, the drug has been widely proved to be safe, and this is the first time a court has ordered the FDA to remove a drug from the market.

Mifepristone is used to induce abortions as well as for other medical applications. Although the Supreme Court argued last year in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health, which overturned the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion, that getting rid of Roe would enable states to make their own decisions about abortion, Kacsmaryk’s decision would remove mifepristone across the entire United States. Mifepristone accounts for about 53% of medically induced abortions.

Vice President Kamala Harris, who has led the administration's policy on reproductive rights, noted that Kacsmaryk’s decision does not simply impact abortion: it opens the door to politicizing chemotherapy drugs, asthma medicine, blood pressure pills, insulin, and so on.

Kacsmaryk also said that mailing mifepristone across state lines is illegal based on the Comstock Act, which Congress passed in 1873, making it illegal to send contraceptive materials through the mail. He went further than that, though, going far beyond the Dobbs decision to embrace the concept that a fertilized egg is an “unborn human” from the time of conception.

He stayed the ruling for a week to give the government time to respond.

President Joe Biden vowed to fight the ruling. He noted that the Department of Justice has already filed an appeal and will seek an immediate stay. “But let’s be clear,” he wrote, “the only way to stop those who are committed to taking away women’s rights and freedoms in every state is to elect a Congress who will pass a law restoring Roe versus Wade. Vice President Harris and I will continue to lead the fight to protect a woman’s right to an abortion, and to make her own decisions about her own health. That is our commitment.”

Less than an hour after Kacsmaryk’s ruling, federal judge Thomas O. Rice in Washington state issued an injunction prohibiting the FDA from pulling mifepristone from the market



Mifepristone is not Plan B.


Thanks for correcting the poster posting incorrect info. If they are that clueless, they should stop spreading their false information.
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