Just Abortion theory

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Anonymous wrote:Those 650,000 aborted fetuses would have had a horrific quality of life.

Because women are child abusers? Women physically and emotionally abuse their own children?

Women who don’t want to be mothers do.

Why does a mother physically abuse a child when the child isn’t at fault?

So you excuse women who abuse and/or kill their own children after the children are born? Why should living, breathing boys and girls be killed or abused?

Because she doesn’t want to be a mother and has not been exposed to alternative disciplinary techniques.

No child deserves to abused, which is why women having abortions who know they wouldn’t make good mothers should be applauded for their self-awareness & personal responsibility. If you deny them that option, don’t be surprised if they abuse their kids.

So, you believe in burning down the house to get rid of the termites? Interesting way to go through life.

I believe in women making their own decisions, and trusting them.

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Anonymous wrote:Those 650,000 aborted fetuses would have had a horrific quality of life.

Because women are child abusers? Women physically and emotionally abuse their own children?

Women who don’t want to be mothers do.

Why does a mother physically abuse a child when the child isn’t at fault?

So you excuse women who abuse and/or kill their own children after the children are born? Why should living, breathing boys and girls be killed or abused?

Because she doesn’t want to be a mother and has not been exposed to alternative disciplinary techniques.

No child deserves to abused, which is why women having abortions who know they wouldn’t make good mothers should be applauded for their self-awareness & personal responsibility. If you deny them that option, don’t be surprised if they abuse their kids.

So, you believe in burning down the house to get rid of the termites? Interesting way to go through life.

I believe in women making their own decisions, and trusting them.

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Anonymous wrote:David Boonin, author of A Defense of Abortion, writes, “Perhaps the most straightforward relation between you and me on the one hand and every human fetus on the other is this: all are living members of the same species, Homo sapiens. A human fetus after all is simply a human being at a very early stage in his or her development” (p. 20).

So it’s perfectly rational to believe that it is always wrong to intentionally kill an innocent biological human being. And since the unborn are innocent biological human beings, it follows that it is wrong to kill them.

Pro-choice and pro-life advocates agree that there is a special class of beings called “persons” who have a right to life. We agree that we are persons.

Infants and mentally disabled adults—are still persons.

You, me, infants, and disabled humans would all be persons because our personhood would depend not on our current functional abilities (or what we can do), but on our innate capacity for certain functional abilities (or what we are).

We can show that since it is wrong to kill us now, it is always wrong to kill us, and since we used to exist in the womb, it was wrong to kill us in the womb. This kind of argument is based on personal identity and can be laid out as follows:

If an organism that once existed has never died, then this organism still exists.
I am an organism.
Therefore, I am the organism that once existed in my mother’s womb.
Generally speaking, it is always wrong to kill me.
Since I existed in my mother’s womb, it was wrong to kill me at that time.
What is true about killing me is true for everyone else.
Therefore, it is wrong to kill anyone else who lives or has lived in his mother’s womb.

Killing anything is wrong is because it deprives that thing of a valuable future, or a “future-like-ours.” You and I, infants, and nearly every embryo and fetus does have a FLO, and so if this is what makes killing wrong, then it is wrong to kill nearly every human embryo and fetus because it has a FLO.

It is wrong to kill biological human beings like the unborn.
The unborn are persons with a right to life.
You and I were once embryos, and it always wrong to kill us.
Abortion deprives the unborn of a future-like-ours.

A living, breathing woman is much more valuable than a fetus. Period.

An unborn baby is living, and breathes to strengthen their lungs in utero.

“Unborn baby” is an oxymoron. You aren’t a baby until you’re born. Otherwise, I should start adding 9 months to the birthday I go by.

Expecting parents announce “We are having a baby!” it’s a baby until they find out about a birth defect then it becomes a “fetus.”

I’m pro-choice. I do not want politicians and the government making parents decisions for them. But I’m not going to pretend that abortion isn’t killing a baby. The reasons for making that choice can range from heartbreaking, sensible, understandable, callous, or irresponsible.

Look at the Trying to Conceive Board. As soon as the egg is fertilized, it is called a baby. Scientifically, life begins at conception. Emotionally, life also begins at conception.

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This thread has gotten pretty far from its original intent and I think everything that can be said has been said.