Tell me more about the School Board election process

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Anonymous wrote:At this point our likely at large members are moon, mcelveen, and mcdaniel or davis.


Agree and I would vote for Davis for some diversity of viewpoint. It’s also a little creepy how Kyle McDaniel, a former aide to Pat Herrity, has repackaged himself as a left-of-center Democrat like he’s the second coming of Laura Jane Cohen.


No way I'm voting for any Republican.


Never ever. Agreed.


So, you are voting for your daughter to have to attend sex education with boys.
You are voting to have your daughter compete with boys for a space on the team.
You are voting to have troubling graphic novels in the school libraries.
You are voting to give the leadership of the teachers' unions great power to influence what is taught in the schools.
You are voting to eliminate strong academic requirements in schools.
theres' more, but that's enough for now.


Oh, please. You're casting these issues in the most inflammatory way possible. I, personally, don't mind my DD having combined classes in MS. Sorry, I hear what she's hearing already and FLE is the least offensive things.

My DD is not competing with boys. She's a high-performing athlete in her own right and we are not concerned about this.

"Troubling" is in the eye of the beholder. You behold for your kid; leave me to mine. I"m fine with them.

I grew up in a union family. And while I often am on the other (litigation) side of them now, they are valuable and I support them.

The last point . . . is not a thing. It's just not.

And FTR, I'm not asking for your validation, permission, or approval. I will be dead in the ground before I would check the box/pull a button/lever for anyone with an "R" after their name again (I have in the past, never will again). Posts like yours -deliberately misleading, if not outright lies- are one reason why.
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Anonymous wrote:At this point our likely at large members are moon, mcelveen, and mcdaniel or davis.


Agree and I would vote for Davis for some diversity of viewpoint. It’s also a little creepy how Kyle McDaniel, a former aide to Pat Herrity, has repackaged himself as a left-of-center Democrat like he’s the second coming of Laura Jane Cohen.


No way I'm voting for any Republican.


Davis is an independent and McDaniel is a former Republican. Sometimes it’s hard to keep up with the shifting affiliations.


McDaniel sounds good to me as a moderate. No way to Davis since she supports book bans in school libraries rather than the current process of allowing professional librarians to select books, people to challenge books, and most importantly parents to monitor what their own kids read if they have such strong beliefs.

I have positive associations with Moon and like that he could help bring some order to the board chaos with his experience, but will have to think more on that.

Still thinking about a third.

Mostly, I hope people look into candidates themselves instead of just following the endorsement of FCDC that brought us horrible members like Keys Gamarra and Omeish.


Please.

By book bans you mean porn.

Those who don't have any leg to stand on shout "book burning" to try to distract from the fact that they are advocating for books depicting graphic photos of stuff like orgies, genitals, graphic sex in school libraries.

Davis' view on this aligns with most parents and civil society.


It is -objectively- not porn. And you and your kids are free to to check any of those books out. You do not have the right to prevent me and my children from doing so. Mind your own house and business.


You want to regulate the hell out of everyone except when it comes to smutty materials in school libraries. They it's all about "my rights."

That tells us all we need to know about your agenda and priorities. Hopefully new School Board members will have a keener appreciation of community standards than the current, horrid bunch.


This is the very opposite of regulation, dumba$$. It is leaving YOU to decide for your kid; and me to mine. God, you're a moron.
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Anonymous wrote:Here is a question:

If the parent had gone directly to the school librarian, would she have been listened to?

If she had written a SB member, when there have been any action?

"Gender Queer" had no place in a school library. Had it not been there, there would not be so many books being challenged.

Librarians appear to have little common sense.

There is a difference between "banning books" and limiting what is in school libraries.


There is a book challenge regulation that spells out the challenge process. There is a regulation on how librarians build collections. It’s not about seeing something on Fox News and then screaming at the school board a la Langton. Follow the process if you think there is a problem. And parent your own kid, not mine.


Honestly, I have to laugh at this for several reasons:

1. The current challenge process consists of people handpicked by FCPS validating the decisions made by people employed by FCPS. If you think that's a good process, you should at least want to have people from the community representing a wider variety of views participating in that process. With another 12-0 Democratic School Board, that's not going to happen

2. The "parent you own kid, not mine" line comes from people who are happy to police the speech of, and throw the book at, other parents' kids, not theirs, so long as they can justify it as designed to promote "equity" or a "caring culture." It's just any type of restraint or discretion when it comes to sexually explicit materials that turns them into Libertarians.


You are so deep in right wing talking points that there is no point engaging with you.

Besides I shouldn’t have derailed this thread mentioning book bans. There are already threads about that discussion so feel free to continue the debate there. I was just trying to explaine why I won’t vote for Davis.


These are my personal observations as a long-time observer of FCPS and a long-time Democrat who is now independent because the local Democrats drifted so far left that I no longer had a party.

You wouldn't vote for Davis unless she came hand-stamped from the FCDC, which rules out just about any moderate.


Too far to the left . . . too much exposure to grandpa at the Friday fish fry, huh? THE talking point of the right. Good job, sheep.


You're just flummoxed by the fact that Davis isn't a Republican, yet isn't part of the Vanessa Hall/Robert Rigby crowd that wants to dictate every FCPS decision.



Blah, blah, blah. I am not part of the "D" establishment. I don't know who these people are. I know the issues. And I know I would never vote for an "R" and I can at least articulate why more than "Dems are too far to the left" trope.
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I grew up in a union family. And while I often am on the other (litigation) side of them now, they are valuable and I support them.

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The only people that benefit from the teachers' unions are the union leaders. I learned this as a very young teacher and have seen nothing to change my mind, but have become more and more convinced that this is true.

They make far more than the teachers they represent and use the dues to forward their own agendas.

This is not just Randi Weingarten--but she is a prime example.
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Anonymous wrote:At this point our likely at large members are moon, mcelveen, and mcdaniel or davis.


Agree and I would vote for Davis for some diversity of viewpoint. It’s also a little creepy how Kyle McDaniel, a former aide to Pat Herrity, has repackaged himself as a left-of-center Democrat like he’s the second coming of Laura Jane Cohen.


No way I'm voting for any Republican.


Davis is an independent and McDaniel is a former Republican. Sometimes it’s hard to keep up with the shifting affiliations.


McDaniel sounds good to me as a moderate. No way to Davis since she supports book bans in school libraries rather than the current process of allowing professional librarians to select books, people to challenge books, and most importantly parents to monitor what their own kids read if they have such strong beliefs.

I have positive associations with Moon and like that he could help bring some order to the board chaos with his experience, but will have to think more on that.

Still thinking about a third.

Mostly, I hope people look into candidates themselves instead of just following the endorsement of FCDC that brought us horrible members like Keys Gamarra and Omeish.


Please.

By book bans you mean porn.

Those who don't have any leg to stand on shout "book burning" to try to distract from the fact that they are advocating for books depicting graphic photos of stuff like orgies, genitals, graphic sex in school libraries.

Davis' view on this aligns with most parents and civil society.


It is -objectively- not porn. And you and your kids are free to to check any of those books out. You do not have the right to prevent me and my children from doing so. Mind your own house and business.


You want to regulate the hell out of everyone except when it comes to smutty materials in school libraries. They it's all about "my rights."

That tells us all we need to know about your agenda and priorities. Hopefully new School Board members will have a keener appreciation of community standards than the current, horrid bunch.


This is the very opposite of regulation, dumba$$. It is leaving YOU to decide for your kid; and me to mine. God, you're a moron.


It must be tough constantly having to harangue people when they just want high academic standards and some basic decency in the schools, all to keep the fringes of your coalition happy. But it's hard to feel sorry for you when you're so obviously a complete and utter jerk.
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Anonymous wrote:At this point our likely at large members are moon, mcelveen, and mcdaniel or davis.


Agree and I would vote for Davis for some diversity of viewpoint. It’s also a little creepy how Kyle McDaniel, a former aide to Pat Herrity, has repackaged himself as a left-of-center Democrat like he’s the second coming of Laura Jane Cohen.


No way I'm voting for any Republican.


Davis is an independent and McDaniel is a former Republican. Sometimes it’s hard to keep up with the shifting affiliations.


McDaniel sounds good to me as a moderate. No way to Davis since she supports book bans in school libraries rather than the current process of allowing professional librarians to select books, people to challenge books, and most importantly parents to monitor what their own kids read if they have such strong beliefs.

I have positive associations with Moon and like that he could help bring some order to the board chaos with his experience, but will have to think more on that.

Still thinking about a third.

Mostly, I hope people look into candidates themselves instead of just following the endorsement of FCDC that brought us horrible members like Keys Gamarra and Omeish.


Please.

By book bans you mean porn.

Those who don't have any leg to stand on shout "book burning" to try to distract from the fact that they are advocating for books depicting graphic photos of stuff like orgies, genitals, graphic sex in school libraries.

Davis' view on this aligns with most parents and civil society.


It is -objectively- not porn. And you and your kids are free to to check any of those books out. You do not have the right to prevent me and my children from doing so. Mind your own house and business.


You want to regulate the hell out of everyone except when it comes to smutty materials in school libraries. They it's all about "my rights."

That tells us all we need to know about your agenda and priorities. Hopefully new School Board members will have a keener appreciation of community standards than the current, horrid bunch.


This is the very opposite of regulation, dumba$$. It is leaving YOU to decide for your kid; and me to mine. God, you're a moron.


It must be tough constantly having to harangue people when they just want high academic standards and some basic decency in the schools, all to keep the fringes of your coalition happy. But it's hard to feel sorry for you when you're so obviously a complete and utter jerk.


I mean, that's a nice word salad to say nothing at all.

My kid has high academics: all honors and APs and all As. Sorry your kid isn't doing so well. Maybe it's not the schools.

In terms of "smut", does your kid have a phone? Will they? If so, then you lose any credibility with re: to this issue. WAY worse on the phones. If you're legit that you won't give your kid a phone until older HS age, then you may at least have some moral high ground. Still doesn't give you the right to decide what my kid has access to.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At this point our likely at large members are moon, mcelveen, and mcdaniel or davis.


Agree and I would vote for Davis for some diversity of viewpoint. It’s also a little creepy how Kyle McDaniel, a former aide to Pat Herrity, has repackaged himself as a left-of-center Democrat like he’s the second coming of Laura Jane Cohen.


No way I'm voting for any Republican.


Davis is an independent and McDaniel is a former Republican. Sometimes it’s hard to keep up with the shifting affiliations.


McDaniel sounds good to me as a moderate. No way to Davis since she supports book bans in school libraries rather than the current process of allowing professional librarians to select books, people to challenge books, and most importantly parents to monitor what their own kids read if they have such strong beliefs.

I have positive associations with Moon and like that he could help bring some order to the board chaos with his experience, but will have to think more on that.

Still thinking about a third.

Mostly, I hope people look into candidates themselves instead of just following the endorsement of FCDC that brought us horrible members like Keys Gamarra and Omeish.


Please.

By book bans you mean porn.

Those who don't have any leg to stand on shout "book burning" to try to distract from the fact that they are advocating for books depicting graphic photos of stuff like orgies, genitals, graphic sex in school libraries.

Davis' view on this aligns with most parents and civil society.


It is -objectively- not porn. And you and your kids are free to to check any of those books out. You do not have the right to prevent me and my children from doing so. Mind your own house and business.


You want to regulate the hell out of everyone except when it comes to smutty materials in school libraries. They it's all about "my rights."

That tells us all we need to know about your agenda and priorities. Hopefully new School Board members will have a keener appreciation of community standards than the current, horrid bunch.


This is the very opposite of regulation, dumba$$. It is leaving YOU to decide for your kid; and me to mine. God, you're a moron.


It must be tough constantly having to harangue people when they just want high academic standards and some basic decency in the schools, all to keep the fringes of your coalition happy. But it's hard to feel sorry for you when you're so obviously a complete and utter jerk.


I mean, that's a nice word salad to say nothing at all.

My kid has high academics: all honors and APs and all As. Sorry your kid isn't doing so well. Maybe it's not the schools.

In terms of "smut", does your kid have a phone? Will they? If so, then you lose any credibility with re: to this issue. WAY worse on the phones. If you're legit that you won't give your kid a phone until older HS age, then you may at least have some moral high ground. Still doesn't give you the right to decide what my kid has access to.


Now you're just tossing out unverifiable claims about your kid's brilliance to make yourself look better. Giant fail.

Community members absolutely have a right to weigh in on what belongs in the libraries of schools they support with their taxpayer dollars. You just want them to be others who, like you, turn a blind eye to smut to curry favor with LWNJs.
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People here keep saying that Saundra Davis is "not a Republican." But her campaign is being managed by far-right nuts who want to completely dismantle public education.

Just look at who her treasurer is - he also worked for Republican Nick Freitas, who was the only Delegate who voted against health insurance coverage for kids with autism. Woodfin is also managing several other Republican school board campaigns in Fairfax.

https://cfreports.elections.virginia.gov/Committee/Index/b87ece74-c5fa-4a4f-ab57-ac3fd64f2a36
https://www.vpap.org/vendors/289018-woodfin-law-offices/?page=1
Anonymous
Davis has said she’s a former Democrat who is now an independent. I’m just as inclined to believe her as to believe McDaniel when he says he is a former Republican who is now a Democrat.

Political alignments change. Just because some Republicans back a particular candidate as an alternative to the FCDC-endorsed candidates, who tend to be extremely to the left, doesn’t mean the candidate is herself a Republican.

There’s next to no way the Republicans are going to gain a majority on the next School Board. What’s important to many of us is putting an end to the crazy echo chamber we got with a 12-0 Democratic board. The lack of any meaningful checks and balances turned out to be a complete disaster - so bad, in fact, that most of the current members are walking away from the sh*t show that they themselves created.
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I just want some people with common sense who will be considerate of students and parents of all types--not just those with special needs and wants.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want some people with common sense who will be considerate of students and parents of all types--not just those with special needs and wants.



Davis is probably your best bet.

She is right down the middle moderate who strongly supports parents and students.

Like a poster said above, there is a snowballs chance in hell that Rs and moderates win a majority on the school board. There is a miniscule chance that Rs and moderates win a tiny handful of 2 to 4 seats on the school board.

But even one moderate like Davis gives a voice to the centrist and right leaning parents in FCPS.

She is the best hope for moderates to have at least one person represent their voice on the school board.

If you care about education, do not vote straight D endorsed candidates.

We have to have discussion and debate so perhaps some of their worst fringe ideas can at least be challenged.

We cannot have 4 more years of unfettered political radicals from one party who are using the school board as a stepping stone for higher office and to push a fringe agenda.
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Anonymous wrote:I just want some people with common sense who will be considerate of students and parents of all types--not just those with special needs and wants.



Davis is probably your best bet.

She is right down the middle moderate who strongly supports parents and students.

Like a poster said above, there is a snowballs chance in hell that Rs and moderates win a majority on the school board. There is a miniscule chance that Rs and moderates win a tiny handful of 2 to 4 seats on the school board.

But even one moderate like Davis gives a voice to the centrist and right leaning parents in FCPS.

She is the best hope for moderates to have at least one person represent their voice on the school board.

If you care about education, do not vote straight D endorsed candidates.

We have to have discussion and debate so perhaps some of their worst fringe ideas can at least be challenged.

We cannot have 4 more years of unfettered political radicals from one party who are using the school board as a stepping stone for higher office and to push a fringe agenda.


+1000.
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Anonymous wrote:I just want some people with common sense who will be considerate of students and parents of all types--not just those with special needs and wants.



Davis is probably your best bet.

She is right down the middle moderate who strongly supports parents and students.

Like a poster said above, there is a snowballs chance in hell that Rs and moderates win a majority on the school board. There is a miniscule chance that Rs and moderates win a tiny handful of 2 to 4 seats on the school board.

But even one moderate like Davis gives a voice to the centrist and right leaning parents in FCPS.

She is the best hope for moderates to have at least one person represent their voice on the school board.

If you care about education, do not vote straight D endorsed candidates.

We have to have discussion and debate so perhaps some of their worst fringe ideas can at least be challenged.

We cannot have 4 more years of unfettered political radicals from one party who are using the school board as a stepping stone for higher office and to push a fringe agenda.


Hi Saundra! You don’t seem like a moderate to me. Still looking for my third at large but still researching, too. Glad there are so many choices this year.
Anonymous
As a Republican, I say let the Democrats continue to own the disaster that FCPS has become. No saving it at this point.
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