Petition to bring back SROs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do any of you know students falsely arrested by SRO’s? I do.

Do you know any students pulled into the police station to be questioned because of wrong info provided by STO’s? I do.

So let's just assume you are telling the truth for a second, you mean to say that we remove critical security in all MCPS high schools because you know a student who was falsely arrested out of the mere 3% of arrests that occurred when SROs were in place? The other day, a white girl in my school was suspended because she was falsely accused of having weed in her book bag. Should we get rid of all principals?

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.

SROs have been criticized for not effectively addressing discipline issues and creating a negative school environment, leading to higher rates of criminalization and arrests for minor offenses, and having a limited positive impact on school safety.

This claim has been tossed around by the anti-police politicians of Montgomery County. The fact is, only 3% of incidents handled by or reported to SROs led to arrests. The fact is that ALL MCPS HS principals wanted to keep SROs and warned about the negative implications of removing them. The fact is many many students in particular students with no role model outside the school looked to SROs as people they could turn to. The fact is they never surveyed all students and staff who would be impacted by this change. A few politicians who don't even have kids at MCPS made this decision solely because THEY thought their opinions mattered more than the people in the schools.

Alternatively, county officials elected by county voters (and since re-elected by those voters) made a county budget decision to discontinue funding for county police officer positions in public schools.

And hence everything that we're seeing- the rise in crimes, drug use, and violence at the schools are a result of county voters continuing to vote for politicians who don't give a crap about MCPS staff, students, and safety. Period.

County voters continue to vote for elected officials you don't support, for reasons you don't support.

Actually, the problem is a bit more nuanced than that.

The county voters get re-elected due to high levels of voter apathy who believe nothing can or will ever change, so they don't bother to vote. As of now, only 51% of eligible voters turned out in the 2022 elections. Let those number get to the 60s and 70s, and you'd see different results.

The current lackluster mismanagement by elected officials who skate by on re-election with small margins is only enabled because of low voter turnout. Which is absolutely the citizens' fault, but also the fault of the system which is so dysfunctional that people decide not participating is the best choice to make since nothing will ever change anyway.

Correction: county voters, whom you disparage, continue to vote for elected officials you don't support, for reasons you don't support.

Ignore the point made on turnout if you want to. That's your choice. But it doesn't change the fact that elected officials are getting by, in part, because of voter apathy. And that reflects poorly on the system and the candidates as a whole.

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.

SROs have been criticized for not effectively addressing discipline issues and creating a negative school environment, leading to higher rates of criminalization and arrests for minor offenses, and having a limited positive impact on school safety.

This claim has been tossed around by the anti-police politicians of Montgomery County. The fact is, only 3% of incidents handled by or reported to SROs led to arrests. The fact is that ALL MCPS HS principals wanted to keep SROs and warned about the negative implications of removing them. The fact is many many students in particular students with no role model outside the school looked to SROs as people they could turn to. The fact is they never surveyed all students and staff who would be impacted by this change. A few politicians who don't even have kids at MCPS made this decision solely because THEY thought their opinions mattered more than the people in the schools.

Alternatively, county officials elected by county voters (and since re-elected by those voters) made a county budget decision to discontinue funding for county police officer positions in public schools.

And hence everything that we're seeing- the rise in crimes, drug use, and violence at the schools are a result of county voters continuing to vote for politicians who don't give a crap about MCPS staff, students, and safety. Period.

County voters continue to vote for elected officials you don't support, for reasons you don't support.

Actually, the problem is a bit more nuanced than that.

The county voters get re-elected due to high levels of voter apathy who believe nothing can or will ever change, so they don't bother to vote. As of now, only 51% of eligible voters turned out in the 2022 elections. Let those number get to the 60s and 70s, and you'd see different results.

The current lackluster mismanagement by elected officials who skate by on re-election with small margins is only enabled because of low voter turnout. Which is absolutely the citizens' fault, but also the fault of the system which is so dysfunctional that people decide not participating is the best choice to make since nothing will ever change anyway.

Correction: county voters, whom you disparage, continue to vote for elected officials you don't support, for reasons you don't support.

Ignore the point made on turnout if you want to. That's your choice. But it doesn't change the fact that elected officials are getting by, in part, because of voter apathy. And that reflects poorly on the system and the candidates as a whole.

Voter apathy = voters who choose not to vote.

[Anonymous]

PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.

SROs are often criticized for not effectively addressing discipline issues and creating a hostile school environment. This leads to higher rates of criminalization and arrests for minor offenses and has a limited positive impact on school safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of you know students falsely arrested by SRO’s? I do.

Do you know any students pulled into the police station to be questioned because of wrong info provided by STO’s? I do.

Do you know of kids who feel that security at MCPS high schools is lacking? I do.

Do you know of any kids who feel that the bathrooms aren't safe to use because of the unchecked drug use and violence going on in there? I do.

Do you know of any kids who feel MCPS administration don't care about their safety and wellbeing and do nothing to curb or stop the bad behavior that disrupts their educational experience routinely? I do.

So you don’t. Open shut.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.

SROs are often criticized for not effectively addressing discipline issues and creating a hostile school environment. This leads to higher rates of criminalization and arrests for minor offenses and has a limited positive impact on school safety.

SROs are not supposed to be involved in discipline.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

That’s for votes, she either running for Congress or governor soon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Please show me the data that SROs are ineffective at MCPS. I'll be waiting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Please show me the data that SROs are ineffective at MCPS. I'll be waiting.

Because the 100 other posts about how it’s ineffective you can’t read?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Please show me the data that SROs are ineffective at MCPS. I'll be waiting.

Show me data that says they are. I know for a fact they were present at almost every mass shooting like Parkland and Uvalde. Seems like a bad track record.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.

GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.

Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.

Uhh. ARe you dense or just a bad reader? PG County DID look at data and made their decision based on data. Which was exactly the OPPOSITE of what your beloved MOCO politicians did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll./quote]

SROs are often criticized for not effectively addressing discipline issues and creating a hostile school environment. This leads to higher rates of criminalization and arrests for minor offenses and has a limited positive impact on school safety.

So true!