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I am one of the privileged PPs. As others have written, it actually does not matter how much or how little may have been sacrificed. What we are pushing back against is the sense of obligation. Just because it is a common immigrant expectation does not mean it MUST be honored. Again: OP's parents did not honor any obligation to THEIR parents. And even if they had, it does not mean that OP must sacrifice her own happiness and free will to fulfill an obligation they are trying to impose on her.
As an example, very few Americans choose these days to nurse their own aging parents, even if their parents and grandparents might have done so. The sandwich generation these days says "NO. We are not going to do that. You can go into assisted living if you can no longer live independently." And they don't feel guilty about it. The cultural expectations have changed. Ironically, though I am a PP who has argued several times in this thread that OP owes her parents nothing, and though our own American sense of obligation has changed, I did take care of my very elderly feeble mother for the last six years of her life. But I could just as well have declined the request. My mother did not obligate me to take care of her. She preferred it, but she also wanted me to be free to live my own life. It is the idea that OP's parents expect it to be provided for and guilt the OP and have guilted her throughout her life... even if that is commonplace for Asian immigrants, OP and all others in her position can and should push back, particularly if the obligation creates genuine hardships. And I hope anyone would agree that working 90 hour weeks in a despises job is a hardship. |
| ^ PP above. I realize the norm has not changed for all Americans. Some do take elderly parents into their homes. But in my particular UMC+ DMV church community, I was a rarity. Perhaps the only one. And before that, I subsidized my parents' housing for many years while they could still live independently. But again, it was my choice. Not an expectation. To me that makes all the difference. |
Doubtful as the mom can’t speak English after 20 years here |
I’m the PP that suggested the OP start talking about being a sahm. But the social contract is usually that the parents work hard too! Everyone contributes as much as they reasonably can, and everyone takes care of each other. I don’t see that contribution from OPs mom. She could have nannied after OP went to school, even part time. Plenty of non-English speaking nannies. She could try to get a paid role in her church - maybe admin or childcare related. She could have taught Korean lessons! |
| I agree with you that OP is free to live her life and not obligated to fund he parent in retirement. I pointed out that OPs mom did make sacrifices in response to those saying OP was under no obligation because 1) her mom was a SAHP and 2) thus made no sacrifices. That reasoning is deeply flawed and misogynistic. Whether OPs mom made sacrifices is actually irrelevant. Saying OPs mom made no sacrifices is not accurate either and thus undercuts the argument. |
You are misogynistic and your comments are borderline abusive. Suggesting an immigrant woman work in her early 50s with an injured back is cruel. OP’s contributions as a SAHM are missive — anyone who thinks otherwise is sexist. |
Well, the familiy is living here in this culture, not in Korea. Additionally, the mother is and has been capable of fending for herself. She is not enfeebled and will not be for a few more decades. Meanwhile her kid has to work like a dog to fund her mother's ladies who lunch lifestyle. |
Early 50s isn't really old. And the back injuries do not inhibit the mother from getting out and socializing as a daily part of her lifestyle. |
Back injuries run a wide gamut. Some people are laid up for a few days because of it but get right back to physical labor because they don't have a choice. Other people find ways to strengthen and prevent injury with low impact exercise. These people are older than the OP's mother. OP's mother is not laid up on a bed and actively engages in social events so her back injuries are nowhere near disabling. |
Folks, we have someone here who aspires to sponge off her child in the same manner. |
😂, Another Korean SAHM? |
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Wait why did OP pretend to be the dad at first? So confused by this whole thread
My parents are Chinese immigrants and I could never imagine them telling me I would support their retirement. They made sacrifices so that I could live a good life and they wouldn’t want to burden me as that would detract from my ability to live a good life. They know I make good money and never want me to buy them expensive gifts because they want me to use it for myself or my family. If they needed money in retirement I would help them. But I can’t imagine them expecting that of me, especially well before they even retire. OP if you hate banking, either quit now or find an exit plan and quit when you’ve figured out the next step. |
+1 being a SAHM to one child is easy. It if the opposite of sacrifice…it is a privilege |
| Also, early 50s is young. I will be 55 when my youngest finishes high school. No way I am retiring until 65. I am a divorced mom with two kids with a demanding job (that does all the crap OP’s mom did—my kids have activities every night. OP’s mom can get a part time job and do something. |
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I am a korean american daughter who went to a prestigious uni, worked in IB in NYC. My parents 10000% wanted me to stay in banking, despite their sympathy and horror at how much i was working. I’ve since left finance entirely but they still routinely suggest i go back to the bank.
A few words of advice: 1) you are dealt the cards you have. Dont waste more time lamenting your situation. There is no use in thinking or comparing against peers. 2) you can easily pay off $60K in debt with 2 yrs of banking. I am guessing your bonus hasnt hit yet- it will and be a huge relief. 3) recruit for PE or HF jobs. Its hard to get so you need to prep. You went to an ivy- be shameless and ask your older friends for help. You’ll more than double your comp while working a bit less. I take it you dont want to stay in finance forever but that extra cash will help you make the move when you do. 4) avoid lifestyle creep. Its frustrating but be mindful of splurging on weekends. Avoid luxury purchases. Get off insta- dont compare yourself to your friends on vaca or partying. 5) start planting the idea that your parents rent out rooms in their house and earn passive income. 6) your parents will get social security. Coupled with downsizing / passive rental income, theyll be fine Youre a great daughter. Don’t listen to the people blaming your parents or saying you need to cut them off. It’ll all be okay. |