If you are someone who "warns" people of the dangers of COVID on social media

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

[Anonymous]

Is OP still scared to speak with her friends directly? Or did they finally grow up in the last 18 pages and have an actual conversation with the person they are complaining about?

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Anonymous wrote:If you call virtue signalling having to see people literally die and/or have a stroke in their 50s w/o any other underlying conditions other than a recent COVID infection, by all means, I'll own the virtue signalling.

The question is, why does it offend you?

I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID.

Here is what I recommend:

1. Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members.

2. Test before gathering with non-household members

3. Do 1 and 2 to keep schools and daycares open

4. Do 1 and 2 so I can do my job in hospitals.

Again, sorry if this offends you

OP here. Thank you for sharing. Speaking specially to your post, I appreciate you being specific about what you want. I'm sorry that things in healthcare settings are difficult right now. What "offends" me about your specific post is basically the implication that COVID (and the flu, and RSV) is the fault of anyone who is engaging in indoor dining in restaurants/indoor activities with people they don't know and can't be sure are testing. And I'm curious - aside from the fact that we're going on three years, which is a long time for people to avoid these types of activities (my child was 12 months old when the pandemic hit, which means these have been three very key years in her social development and yes it has impacted her very much), it also means that many businesses and their employees lose their livelihoods. I know I know, how can I possibly put MONEY above PEOPLE'S LIVES. I think that's a pretty dumb and selfish argument because you're not the one who can't put food on the table.

So I think we can agree that you think I am a terrible person, and I think that's quite unfair at this point.

Wow. You're talking to someone dealing with death on the front lines and you're offended by "the implication[s]" of their post that "you think I am a terrible person" -- which they never said, it's just you're own guilt talking I guess. I think you should try to do better.

The PP literally said "people like you" (referring to me) are responsible for the hospital surge. The PP knows nothing about me or my family. That type if discourse is not true or helpful. It's abusive.

NP - I'm just really impressed by your ability, OP, to take a post where a health care worker talks about how difficult they've had it over the past 3 years and make it All About You.

OP is the true martyr here, everyone!

Who do you think the PP was referring to with this quote? "I am about to be slammed in the hospital yet again because people like you get so offended by COVID"

Do you think that is helpful? Do you think it will change anyone's mind?

OP isn't trying to look for helpful things. OP just wants a get out of jail free card to YOLO and can't handle that there are others who are having it much worse than her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also think it's pretty rich that the OP who thinks the health care worker pleading with people to wear masks and take extra safety precautions is "abusive" is the same person calling people who disagree with them "psychopaths." Pot, kettle.

I don't think it's psychopath is to disagree with me. I think it's psychopathic to demand families keep their young children isolated all winter. And that is what much of the advice amounts to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also think it's pretty rich that the OP who thinks the health care worker pleading with people to wear masks and take extra safety precautions is "abusive" is the same person calling people who disagree with them "psychopaths." Pot, kettle.

I don't think it's psychopath is to disagree with me. I think it's psychopathic to demand families keep their young children isolated all winter. And that is what much of the advice amounts to.

If it was up to these people, kids would be forced to stay in isolation every time they coughed.

Sure, it's reasonable to expect kids to stay home if they have a fever or hacking cough. But for minor cold symptoms? No.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

Their strategy is to keep posting research they don't understand and does not support their claims and hope that the people they are arguing with either won't click on the link or will neglect to read it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also think it's pretty rich that the OP who thinks the health care worker pleading with people to wear masks and take extra safety precautions is "abusive" is the same person calling people who disagree with them "psychopaths." Pot, kettle.

I don't think it's psychopath is to disagree with me. I think it's psychopathic to demand families keep their young children isolated all winter. And that is what much of the advice amounts to.

You said "that's the discourse among you psychopaths" though I never said you needed to keep your young children isolated all winter so again, pot, kettle. *shrug*

[Anonymous]

"Look at those people pointing fingers at me, I hate them. How can they be so judgemental? That behavior is abominable!"

*points fingers at people pointing fingers*

and scene

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also think it's pretty rich that the OP who thinks the health care worker pleading with people to wear masks and take extra safety precautions is "abusive" is the same person calling people who disagree with them "psychopaths." Pot, kettle.

I don't think it's psychopath is to disagree with me. I think it's psychopathic to demand families keep their young children isolated all winter. And that is what much of the advice amounts to.

So much hyperbole. Aren’t you exhausted from all things you are making up?

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

You are conflating multiple people’s posts. The Singapore study was demonstrating that excess deaths were directly attributable to a Covid infection in the 90 days prior. That definitely merits further research.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I also think it's pretty rich that the OP who thinks the health care worker pleading with people to wear masks and take extra safety precautions is "abusive" is the same person calling people who disagree with them "psychopaths." Pot, kettle.

I don't think it's psychopath is to disagree with me. I think it's psychopathic to demand families keep their young children isolated all winter. And that is what much of the advice amounts to.

If it was up to these people, kids would be forced to stay in isolation every time they coughed.

Sure, it's reasonable to expect kids to stay home if they have a fever or hacking cough. But for minor cold symptoms? No.

No one on here said that, but you know that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

Their strategy is to keep posting research they don't understand and does not support their claims and hope that the people they are arguing with either won't click on the link or will neglect to read it.

I'm so happy to see other scientifically literate posters on here rebutting this nonsense. The Leonardi/Iannettone fans are painful to deal with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

I mean, how funny is the phrase "severe autoimmunity disorder effects"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

Their strategy is to keep posting research they don't understand and does not support their claims and hope that the people they are arguing with either won't click on the link or will neglect to read it.

I'm so happy to see other scientifically literate posters on here rebutting this nonsense. The Leonardi/Iannettone fans are painful to deal with.

How do you explain the increase in sudden deaths we are seeing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

You are conflating multiple people’s posts. The Singapore study was demonstrating that excess deaths were directly attributable to a Covid infection in the 90 days prior. That definitely merits further research.

Copied and pasted from above - it was posted in response to the Covid ruins your immune system hypothesis.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.


I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/res...e-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.