This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid. |
Actually they didn't refer to people who "aren't taking COVID seriously". They're referring to anyone who expresses frustration with the discourse among certain people who have made "taking COVID seriously" a part of their identity and who refuse to acknowledge that expecting healthy people to wear masks in any indoor setting, indefinitely is not realistic. Y'all can keep shouting about this and blaming people, when in fact COVID surges are widely acknowledged to NOT be driven by people's behavior including mask wearing. Do masks help? I'm sure they do, somewhat (given how most of the public wears them). I do take COVID seriously, and made a lot of sacrifices that cost my child pretty seriously. Of course, you'll deny that I actually made any sacrifices, that's the discourse among you psychopaths. And it's not helpful. All you're doing is alienating people and making yourself sound crazy. |
You keep saying that. Is that all you've got? |
NP - this is very much NOT a fringe theory. I’m in the healthcare profession and almost every infectious disease doctor I know thinks this is plausible. The wishing that Covid is a minor disease with little consequence is dangerous. And to answer your question OP- I’m relatively Covid cautious but hi no means the most cautious person. I don’t care what other people do, but I have found most people I know aren’t educated about Covid so if I post something, it’s not to change someone’s behavior but just to inform people who otherwise wouldn’t know something. |
What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis. https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886 *Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic. |
DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false. |
No. When you start a post like this with scare quotes around "warn" you have already taken the position that reasonable people don't warn others about covid anymore. Now you are arguing that a health care worker who asked people to take precautions and cast a little blame your way because of your obvious attitude is "abusive." Lol no. I'll ask you the same questions you asked about the health care worker. Do you think your post is helpful? Do you think you are changing anyone's mind? I keep asking you to look inward because you keep failing to connect that you are doing exactly the same thing that you think is abusive when other people do it. You just think your point of view is right and theirs is wrong. Good luck with that. |
No, putting the word "warn" in quotes is not the same thing as blaming random people you know nothing about for a hospital surge. I'm sure you have a point you want to make here, but suggesting something so ridiculous makes it hard to discern what that is. And I didn't post here to change anyone's mind. I posted to understand what exactly is the expectation. As I mentioned, I appreciated that the HCW PP actually answered my question, though they also blamed me for the hospital surge which is unnecessary and yes, abusive. |
And all the doctors you know would never consider the vaccine problematic |
So you aren't actually reading the literature. Got it. |
You picked a side, posted from that side, and have been subsequently defending that side and belittling those that don't agree with you ever since as being overly anxious and unreasonable.
I don't know how to spell it out for you more clearly. You disagree with the health care worker and others re what behavior is reasonable to expect to protect one another, and are posting from that point of view. You are blaming people who are still taking precautions and who want other people to take more precautions for being unreasonable. They are blaming people who don't take precautions because they don't think covid is dangerous anymore for causing the surge. I think you have basically said that you eat indoors in restaurants without testing and don't know whether other people around you have tested or are symptomatic (I think you probably do this because you think expecting someone not to do this is unreasonable). So you aren't THAT careful. That's at least one thing the health care worker asks people to do that you don't do. Are there others? Seems like you do fall into the category of people who aren't doing everything that person asked for, yet you're still hiding behind "you don't know how careful I am, I'm plenty careful, so leave me alone!" Do you do everything on their list? I do not think you are changing anyone's mind, but ymmv. |
From the linked study: “ In conclusion, data to date strongly suggest that some severe COVID-19 cases can be explained by preexisting autoantibodies (which, interestingly, confer a risk similar to that conferred by rare inborn genetic errors in the same pathways). With regard to de novo autoantibody formation, a variety of such antibodies are detected when patients are hospitalized with severe COVID-19; however, there is still work to be done to determine whether these antibodies are important contributors to severe disease or an epiphenomenon of the marked inflammation.” How do the results support the statement above that “The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years.” |
I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days. |
I’m a DP who said it earlier, so I think more than one person is noticing a lack of self awareness. |
I also think it's pretty rich that the OP who thinks the health care worker pleading with people to wear masks and take extra safety precautions is "abusive" is the same person calling people who disagree with them "psychopaths." Pot, kettle. |