If you are someone who "warns" people of the dangers of COVID on social media

[Anonymous]

My boss is one of these people still hung up on covid. He's very educated, very intelligent and accomplished. But he spends too much time on Twitter, and the echo chamber of covid nonsense in his ultraliberal feed has done him in. I met with him today, and I was struggling not to laugh during our meeting because he looks like a duck when he's talking with his N95 on. I had to look down for much of the meeting so I'd stop picturing a duck.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

Their strategy is to keep posting research they don't understand and does not support their claims and hope that the people they are arguing with either won't click on the link or will neglect to read it.

I'm so happy to see other scientifically literate posters on here rebutting this nonsense. The Leonardi/Iannettone fans are painful to deal with.

How do you explain the increase in sudden deaths we are seeing?

First where are evidence of excess deaths?
What are the causes of those deaths?
You know that our opioid epidemic is completely out of control and people are dropping dead from fentanyl tainted pills?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My boss is one of these people still hung up on covid. He's very educated, very intelligent and accomplished. But he spends too much time on Twitter, and the echo chamber of covid nonsense in his ultraliberal feed has done him in. I met with him today, and I was struggling not to laugh during our meeting because he looks like a duck when he's talking with his N95 on. I had to look down for much of the meeting so I'd stop picturing a duck.

You sound mature. At least you recognize those more intelligent than you. I doubt he cares what you think of his mask and cares more about keeping his brain and body intact.

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Anonymous wrote:I also think it's pretty rich that the OP who thinks the health care worker pleading with people to wear masks and take extra safety precautions is "abusive" is the same person calling people who disagree with them "psychopaths." Pot, kettle.

I don't think it's psychopath is to disagree with me. I think it's psychopathic to demand families keep their young children isolated all winter. And that is what much of the advice amounts to.

So much hyperbole. Aren’t you exhausted from all things you are making up?

You're right, nobody said to keep children isolated all winter. It is, however, the natural consequence of the guidance being given. My child cannot properly wear a mask, so the advice to "Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members" cannot be implemented. The only way to follow that advice is to stay home.

And as far as making things up, the notion that I said anyone who disagrees with me is a psychopath is also false. If y'all are just going to put words in my mouth I'm going to be pretty liberal about how I characterize your words. Funny how that works.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

Their strategy is to keep posting research they don't understand and does not support their claims and hope that the people they are arguing with either won't click on the link or will neglect to read it.

I'm so happy to see other scientifically literate posters on here rebutting this nonsense. The Leonardi/Iannettone fans are painful to deal with.

How do you explain the increase in sudden deaths we are seeing?

First where are evidence of excess deaths?
What are the causes of those deaths?
You know that our opioid epidemic is completely out of control and people are dropping dead from fentanyl tainted pills?

You can’t be serious.

[Anonymous]

The people who are still neurotic and blathering on on socials and in public are the long-term victims of a sustained and powerful PR campaign by mainstream media and government. At the beginning, this was probably warranted, as we didn't know much... but like all government programs, it went on for far too long. We now have a legion of people who are go on spreading the gospel, and will for some time. My advice is to ignore them. They'll stop eventually.

[Anonymous]

OP is a snowflake.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

Their strategy is to keep posting research they don't understand and does not support their claims and hope that the people they are arguing with either won't click on the link or will neglect to read it.

I'm so happy to see other scientifically literate posters on here rebutting this nonsense. The Leonardi/Iannettone fans are painful to deal with.

How do you explain the increase in sudden deaths we are seeing?

First where are evidence of excess deaths?
What are the causes of those deaths?
You know that our opioid epidemic is completely out of control and people are dropping dead from fentanyl tainted pills?

So, don't take pills off the internet. But, that isn't how Covid works, right? How is that a comparison? Cancer and heart disease kills too, but they aren't contagious. What is your actual point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The people who are still neurotic and blathering on on socials and in public are the long-term victims of a sustained and powerful PR campaign by mainstream media and government. At the beginning, this was probably warranted, as we didn't know much... but like all government programs, it went on for far too long. We now have a legion of people who are go on spreading the gospel, and will for some time. My advice is to ignore them. They'll stop eventually.

This makes zero sense. Some of y’all really do some serious mental gymnastics.

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Anonymous wrote:I also think it's pretty rich that the OP who thinks the health care worker pleading with people to wear masks and take extra safety precautions is "abusive" is the same person calling people who disagree with them "psychopaths." Pot, kettle.

I don't think it's psychopath is to disagree with me. I think it's psychopathic to demand families keep their young children isolated all winter. And that is what much of the advice amounts to.

So much hyperbole. Aren’t you exhausted from all things you are making up?

You're right, nobody said to keep children isolated all winter. It is, however, the natural consequence of the guidance being given. My child cannot properly wear a mask, so the advice to "Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members" cannot be implemented. The only way to follow that advice is to stay home.

And as far as making things up, the notion that I said anyone who disagrees with me is a psychopath is also false. If y'all are just going to put words in my mouth I'm going to be pretty liberal about how I characterize your words. Funny how that works.

More hyperbole. Try just sticking with facts. Life is so much easier when you’re not a liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP is a snowflake.

A scared snowflake given that she’s too afraid to speak directly to the friends she is upset with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The people who are still neurotic and blathering on on socials and in public are the long-term victims of a sustained and powerful PR campaign by mainstream media and government. At the beginning, this was probably warranted, as we didn't know much... but like all government programs, it went on for far too long. We now have a legion of people who are go on spreading the gospel, and will for some time. My advice is to ignore them. They'll stop eventually.

This makes zero sense. Some of y’all really do some serious mental gymnastics.

I am not the PP but they are making sense. Maybe you think they're wrong, but to say it doesn't make sense? It's absolutely true. For example, the CDC still strongly encourages 2 year olds to wear masks in all indoor spaces they share without household members if they are high risk or community levels are high, without acknowledging that:

A. Many 2 year olds are not developmentally able to wear a mask properly, and it's also difficult to find masks that properly fit them (which means that the benefit of masking in this population is minimal); and
B. Numerous health authorities across the world including the World Health Organization and the Tokyo Medical Association have expressed concerns about the developmental impacts of masks on young children (https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/05/16/national/masks-kids/)

The CDC dug in on young children wearing masks at the beginning of the pandemic, and now they will never reverse their position. Thankfully most now ignore them, which is good in this particular case but not great for the future of public health in general.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe that there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects. I think it used to be that just randos like AJ Leonardi on twitter were warning about this but others are coming out and joining him now.

Ignore the warnings if you want but that doesn't change the science. The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years. You can do this by wearing masks and cleaning the air in your house/workplace and trying not to infect other people when you're sick, as well as not going around very crowded places unnecessarily or eating inside restaurants. It isn't rocket science, but some people take eating inside restaurants to be an inalienable right that you will need to pry from their cold dead fingers (whereas personally I like to get takeout and watch Netflix with the fam, so win-win).

This is very much a fringe theory. It’s on the same level as ivermectin cures Covid.

What?! No this is very much not a fringe hypothesis.
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/154886

*Your use of the word theory instead of hypothesis really highlights how ignorant you probably are on this or any other science-related topic.

DP what is "fringe" about AJ Leonardi is he is taking what happens in certain people with long COVID and assumes it happens to everyone who gets COVID, which is demonstrably and obviously false.

I think it’s fairly plausible. Look at Singapore study. https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/resources-statistics/reports/report-on-excess-mortality-during-the-covid-pandemic-18sep2022.pdf

Excess deaths have been linked to a Covid infection within the last 90 days.

I read the linked report, I can't figure out what supports "there are increasing studies from more than a few scientists now showing that covid -- even mild covid -- can cause severe autoimmunity disorder effects from its effects on your B and T cells, and that getting multiple cases of covid increases your chances of getting these effects." and "The science is saying that it would be good if people -- even vaccinated people -- try to protect one another from getting covid over and over again, because it ages your autoimmunity reactions by about 10 years."

Could you point me to the relevant section?

Their strategy is to keep posting research they don't understand and does not support their claims and hope that the people they are arguing with either won't click on the link or will neglect to read it.

I'm so happy to see other scientifically literate posters on here rebutting this nonsense. The Leonardi/Iannettone fans are painful to deal with.

How do you explain the increase in sudden deaths we are seeing?

First where are evidence of excess deaths?
What are the causes of those deaths?
You know that our opioid epidemic is completely out of control and people are dropping dead from fentanyl tainted pills?

You can’t be serious.

That's your data? The claim here is that young people are dropping dead suddenly all across the world due to late effects of covid infection. There's no evidence for that.

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Anonymous wrote:I also think it's pretty rich that the OP who thinks the health care worker pleading with people to wear masks and take extra safety precautions is "abusive" is the same person calling people who disagree with them "psychopaths." Pot, kettle.

I don't think it's psychopath is to disagree with me. I think it's psychopathic to demand families keep their young children isolated all winter. And that is what much of the advice amounts to.

So much hyperbole. Aren’t you exhausted from all things you are making up?

You're right, nobody said to keep children isolated all winter. It is, however, the natural consequence of the guidance being given. My child cannot properly wear a mask, so the advice to "Wear a well-fitting, high quality mask (KN95 or N95) during surges in all indoor settings when mixing with non household members" cannot be implemented. The only way to follow that advice is to stay home.

And as far as making things up, the notion that I said anyone who disagrees with me is a psychopath is also false. If y'all are just going to put words in my mouth I'm going to be pretty liberal about how I characterize your words. Funny how that works.

More hyperbole. Try just sticking with facts. Life is so much easier when you’re not a liar.

I'll stick with the facts when you do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is a snowflake.

A scared snowflake given that she’s too afraid to speak directly to the friends she is upset with.

Love the words, snowflake, sheep, woke, liberal, and so many more on this thread. These words say a lot about the speaker, and frankly, only positive things about the person being labeled. I think we've learned that in the last 7 years. You can choose to be intelligent, respectful, and considerate, or you can just be a dumba$$ calling other people names because it's impossible for you to understand and accept reality. Go ahead and get Covid or the flu, expose babies to RSV if that's your game, but the smart people really aren't going to do that and we aren't going to get upset when you name call, because we know you are just too dumb and immature. It's just not a problem. Really.