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Upthread, someone already pointed out that lithium can be extracted from seawater in large quantities, cost-effectively. But that said, lithium isn't the only game in town. Many new high-performance non-lithium battery technologies are being researched and developed. Whereas, for internal combustion engines, there's not much new to have happened in the last 50+ years. |
You mean Joe has been in DC longer than it’s been since the internal combustion engine has been improved? Maybe it’s time for one of them to go, & my internal combustion car is working just fine. |
Lithium is not stripped mined. Come on at least get the extraction method right.
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Based on the provided link, there is no evidence that lithium can be extracted from seawater cost effectively. And if you think nothing new has happened to internal combustion engines in 50 years, then there's no hope for you. |
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This is a Washington-based forum and nobody here knows what a WEDGE ISSUE is and how they're exploited by the ruling class?
Wedge issues are fake and astroturfed to get the dumb cattle bases on both sides to seize on crap that does not matter. Nobody should give a darn if someone drives a Tesla or a 20 mpg Chevy Tahoe. We have both. Who really cares what your neighbor drives? I certainly don't. And we live in a vibrant downtown, so I personally prefer more Teslas which are totally silent versus obnoxious revving engines of sports cars, pickup trucks, and motorcycles. But other than that, buy what you want. I don't care. |
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Because the current versions of EVs are a wasteful and unnecessary step in the evolution away from the internal combustion engine.
In the 40 or 50 years it will take to transition away from fossil fuels the world should be converting to hydrogen powered vehicles. Hydrogen power can scale up beyond cars to trucks, trains, ships, etc. EV technology in cars today won’t be able to effectively scale up to larger vehicles. Existing gas stations could be converted to hydrogen fueling stations and there would be no need to stress the electrical grid beyond it capacity. So Republicans hate them for the same reason they hate most liberal ideas. They are wasteful, weak attempts that in the end do more harm than good. |
https://cen.acs.org/materials/inorganic-chemistry/Can-seawater-give-us-lithium-to-meet-our-battery-needs/99/i36 Says Lithium extraction cost between $2 and $5 per kilogram from seawater, “Our process is quick, energy efficient, and scalable,” Lai says. “And the system runs continuously and is compact and easy to operate.” And no, very little has happened with internal combustion engines in 50 years. What, fuel injectors and computers and a handful of other things to tweak their efficiency from 20 mpg to 27 mpg? Color me unimpressed. |
Talk about weak - this is some sorry ass concern trolling. Republicans aren't getting behind hydrogen either. They just wanna keep clinging to their big coal rollers. Prove us wrong by shifting fossil subsidies over to hydrogen. |
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LA Reporter visits 30 electric vehicle chargers and gets a wake-up call. 40% of them were broken, long lines at the ones that did work, payment issues abound, and connection issues. Short video.
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| I think at this point, Republicans are more likely to support EVs. The only viable charging system in the nation is owned by Elon Musk. And the left hates him more than they like EVs. |
Right wing outlet, not “LA reporter.” Did they bother to point out the pavement princesses who like to park in charging spots? |
Nah we don't. I own one. |
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Another family that does not hate EVs.
We are on our second one. |
| I don’t. What a weird thread. |
Agree, think OP just wanted to gaslight. |