Cogat and NNAt 2021 Scores Sharing thread

[Anonymous]

The 10% figure makes sense. At our elementary school, there are 60 2nd graders, and 6 made it into the pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 10% figure makes sense. At our elementary school, there are 60 2nd graders, and 6 made it into the pool.

where can parents get these kinds of information?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are limiting the pool to make it easier for committee to review thousands of files. Many kids in high SES schools have been scored by above 132 and hence it’s a good idea to limit the pool to top 5 to 10%.
Anyone who feels their child needs AAP can refer. Why bother about the pool?

Because then all they're doing is excluding kids who scored 132+ with no test prep and uninvolved or uninformed parents.

[Anonymous]

If it's 10% how do they decide what counts most? Does a kid with 139 NNAT and 120 CogAT composite (with 128 Q sub section pulling up the other subsections that were lower) get in pool over a kid with 135 NNAT and 138 CogAT composite (obtained by all subsections great than 130)?

The at least 1 test or subsection at a certain number of last year only really makes sense if the limit isn't set to get a certain % of students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Admitting the top 10% from each school seems fair to me.

Our school has about 70 2nd grade students, so the top 10% would only be 7 kids. That will only work if they continue the model with centers and if the kids want to go to a center.

So in this example, 7 would be in pool and the remainder could still parent refer. We have local Level IV at a similarly-sized school and the Level IV students are integrated with the Gen Ed classes. Their small group rotates to other teachers for the advanced coursework.

This is the APS model.

I have a pg kid and the center school model of congregated gifted classes works for him. But most kids aren't pg kids, so maybe this will be good for them.

[Anonymous]

Actually pool being with kids who scored 140 plus will work better and will be more effective and efficient.
Referral is always there for parents who still are interested in AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually pool being with kids who scored 140 plus will work better and will be more effective and efficient.
Referral is always there for parents who still are interested in AAP.

Except it's not. The referral deadline was Dec. 15th and we are still waiting for FCPS to announce that they've altered the pool to limit it for some kids and widen it for others. Too late for a parent not following this site basically to know they had to refer a kid with a 138.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are limiting the pool to make it easier for committee to review thousands of files. Many kids in high SES schools have been scored by above 132 and hence it’s a good idea to limit the pool to top 5 to 10%.
Anyone who feels their child needs AAP can refer. Why bother about the pool?

Because then all they're doing is excluding kids who scored 132+ with no test prep and uninvolved or uninformed parents.

But they’re capturing more kids with uninformed parents at lower SES schools (where the uninformed parents are statistically more likely to be). So the net result is more smart kids identified.

[Anonymous]

Does no email mean your child is not in the pool? Do you get an email regardless of the decision?

COGAT-138
NNAT -125

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually pool being with kids who scored 140 plus will work better and will be more effective and efficient.
Referral is always there for parents who still are interested in AAP.

Except it's not. The referral deadline was Dec. 15th and we are still waiting for FCPS to announce that they've altered the pool to limit it for some kids and widen it for others. Too late for a parent not following this site basically to know they had to refer a kid with a 138.

No need to pay attention to DCUM if you follow your AART and school announcements. We’ve been told repeatedly that those not in the pool will need to parent-refer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does no email mean your child is not in the pool? Do you get an email regardless of the decision?

COGAT-138
NNAT -125

Haha, nice try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually pool being with kids who scored 140 plus will work better and will be more effective and efficient.
Referral is always there for parents who still are interested in AAP.

Except it's not. The referral deadline was Dec. 15th and we are still waiting for FCPS to announce that they've altered the pool to limit it for some kids and widen it for others. Too late for a parent not following this site basically to know they had to refer a kid with a 138.

No need to pay attention to DCUM if you follow your AART and school announcements. We’ve been told repeatedly that those not in the pool will need to parent-refer.

How would people even realize their children aren't in the pool though? They would have to know someone else whose child is and blabbed about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are limiting the pool to make it easier for committee to review thousands of files. Many kids in high SES schools have been scored by above 132 and hence it’s a good idea to limit the pool to top 5 to 10%.
Anyone who feels their child needs AAP can refer. Why bother about the pool?

Because then all they're doing is excluding kids who scored 132+ with no test prep and uninvolved or uninformed parents.

But they’re capturing more kids with uninformed parents at lower SES schools (where the uninformed parents are statistically more likely to be). So the net result is more smart kids identified.

What are you talking about? How could anyone know whether decreasing necessary scores at some schools and increasing them elsewhere means more kids are being screened? None of us have any idea what total pool size is this year and how it compares to prior years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually pool being with kids who scored 140 plus will work better and will be more effective and efficient.
Referral is always there for parents who still are interested in AAP.

Except it's not. The referral deadline was Dec. 15th and we are still waiting for FCPS to announce that they've altered the pool to limit it for some kids and widen it for others. Too late for a parent not following this site basically to know they had to refer a kid with a 138.

No need to pay attention to DCUM if you follow your AART and school announcements. We’ve been told repeatedly that those not in the pool will need to parent-refer.

How would people even realize their children aren't in the pool though? They would have to know someone else whose child is and blabbed about it.

I think the AARTs tell everyone to just submit the referral if they’re interested in AAP, since some people don’t even get the scores until after the deadline. But yes, some people might think their child is in-pool with a >132 score if they don’t realize that the letters were already sent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does no email mean your child is not in the pool? Do you get an email regardless of the decision?

COGAT-138
NNAT -125

Haha, nice try.

I am not sure what this mean? We are new to the system and it’s a legitimate question.