Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few days have been filled with details that support CB planning the rendezvous with Joe. It is very interesting to see the BB haters twist themselves in knots as more and more evidence comes out supporting the fact that CB was having an affair/hookup and initiated contact with Joe.

Curious if CB and BB had ever done c*ck scenes with a 3rd before of if this was a first. C*ck fetishes are almost always pushed by the man. Per friend, Joe had met with both before agreeing to go to their house, common for safety. Joe had never done knife play, CB had a clotting disorder, pretty apparent who of the 3 raised it and why.

Crazed BB defender - if sex merits the death penalty in your eyes, should we ready the chair for BB who was banging the AP and others? I get that smearing and dehumanizing them is your jam but entire thing is very likely to have been orchestrated by BB, even if was not first c*ck scene. We will see if anyone else comes forward.

I don't know why you insist this was that type of fetish. The evidence shows that Christine (or someone pretending to be Christine) is the only one who communicated with Joe and that she alone wanted to meet him. There was no mention at all of BB being involved or even asking her to do it. In fact, she (or someone pretending to be her) complained about her husband to Joe. That points to me that it was just the two of them, and the husband was involved. I think you are projecting your own fetishes onto this poor dead woman.

Meant to write the husband was NOT involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few days have been filled with details that support CB planning the rendezvous with Joe. It is very interesting to see the BB haters twist themselves in knots as more and more evidence comes out supporting the fact that CB was having an affair/hookup and initiated contact with Joe.

Curious if CB and BB had ever done c*ck scenes with a 3rd before of if this was a first. C*ck fetishes are almost always pushed by the man. Per friend, Joe had met with both before agreeing to go to their house, common for safety. Joe had never done knife play, CB had a clotting disorder, pretty apparent who of the 3 raised it and why.

Crazed BB defender - if sex merits the death penalty in your eyes, should we ready the chair for BB who was banging the AP and others? I get that smearing and dehumanizing them is your jam but entire thing is very likely to have been orchestrated by BB, even if was not first c*ck scene. We will see if anyone else comes forward.

I don't know why you insist this was that type of fetish. The evidence shows that Christine (or someone pretending to be Christine) is the only one who communicated with Joe and that she alone wanted to meet him. There was no mention at all of BB being involved or even asking her to do it. In fact, she (or someone pretending to be her) complained about her husband to Joe. That points to me that it was just the two of them, and the husband was involved. I think you are projecting your own fetishes onto this poor dead woman.

Meant to write the husband was NOT involved.

Lol. You are not convincing anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few days have been filled with details that support CB planning the rendezvous with Joe. It is very interesting to see the BB haters twist themselves in knots as more and more evidence comes out supporting the fact that CB was having an affair/hookup and initiated contact with Joe.

Curious if CB and BB had ever done c*ck scenes with a 3rd before of if this was a first. C*ck fetishes are almost always pushed by the man. Per friend, Joe had met with both before agreeing to go to their house, common for safety. Joe had never done knife play, CB had a clotting disorder, pretty apparent who of the 3 raised it and why.

Crazed BB defender - if sex merits the death penalty in your eyes, should we ready the chair for BB who was banging the AP and others? I get that smearing and dehumanizing them is your jam but entire thing is very likely to have been orchestrated by BB, even if was not first c*ck scene. We will see if anyone else comes forward.

I don't know why you insist this was that type of fetish. The evidence shows that Christine (or someone pretending to be Christine) is the only one who communicated with Joe and that she alone wanted to meet him. There was no mention at all of BB being involved or even asking her to do it. In fact, she (or someone pretending to be her) complained about her husband to Joe. That points to me that it was just the two of them, and the husband was involved. I think you are projecting your own fetishes onto this poor dead woman.

Meant to write the husband was NOT involved.

Lol. You are not convincing anyone.

According to at least one witness friend of JR, BB was involved. I’m sure more will come out later on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few days have been filled with details that support CB planning the rendezvous with Joe. It is very interesting to see the BB haters twist themselves in knots as more and more evidence comes out supporting the fact that CB was having an affair/hookup and initiated contact with Joe.

Curious if CB and BB had ever done c*ck scenes with a 3rd before of if this was a first. C*ck fetishes are almost always pushed by the man. Per friend, Joe had met with both before agreeing to go to their house, common for safety. Joe had never done knife play, CB had a clotting disorder, pretty apparent who of the 3 raised it and why.

Crazed BB defender - if sex merits the death penalty in your eyes, should we ready the chair for BB who was banging the AP and others? I get that smearing and dehumanizing them is your jam but entire thing is very likely to have been orchestrated by BB, even if was not first c*ck scene. We will see if anyone else comes forward.

I don't know why you insist this was that type of fetish. The evidence shows that Christine (or someone pretending to be Christine) is the only one who communicated with Joe and that she alone wanted to meet him. There was no mention at all of BB being involved or even asking her to do it. In fact, she (or someone pretending to be her) complained about her husband to Joe. That points to me that it was just the two of them, and the husband was involved. I think you are projecting your own fetishes onto this poor dead woman.

Meant to write the husband was NOT involved.

Lol. You are not convincing anyone.

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, but do go on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few days have been filled with details that support CB planning the rendezvous with Joe. It is very interesting to see the BB haters twist themselves in knots as more and more evidence comes out supporting the fact that CB was having an affair/hookup and initiated contact with Joe.

Curious if CB and BB had ever done c*ck scenes with a 3rd before of if this was a first. C*ck fetishes are almost always pushed by the man. Per friend, Joe had met with both before agreeing to go to their house, common for safety. Joe had never done knife play, CB had a clotting disorder, pretty apparent who of the 3 raised it and why.

Crazed BB defender - if sex merits the death penalty in your eyes, should we ready the chair for BB who was banging the AP and others? I get that smearing and dehumanizing them is your jam but entire thing is very likely to have been orchestrated by BB, even if was not first c*ck scene. We will see if anyone else comes forward.

Curious who Joe actually met ahead of time? Wouldn’t be surprised if it was BB and the au pair

[Anonymous]

Ok, so I was an AuPair years ago and I’m now married with kids. I still keep the AuPair group bc I’m always looking for a babysitter, cleaner or whatever small job I need from time to time.

Back in July, when my baby was a newborn, I posted in the group looking for a helper to come twice a week for a couple hours to help around the house bc I was a little overwhelmed. Juliana DM’d me saying she was interested and she knew how to do a bunch of things: cook, clean, babysit, dog sit…. I guess she forgot to mention plot my death and hook up with husband as part of her skills, but anyways… I had found someone else at that point and even forgot to reply to her. I can only imagine how shocking it would have been if she was working for me by the time she got arrested, and then I would find out about all of this….

On another note, the girl that works for me now hung out with Juliana once. They went to Tysons mall after 2 months of her arrival. She said Juliana mentioned having a boyfriend in Brazil and he was about to get a visa to come visit her. She also said CB was a little toxic and passive aggressive, and that she used to like hanging out with the family in her free time in the beginning, but then she noticed they started “taking advantage” of that, asking her to do small chores in her free time while hanging out with them (do the dishes, feed the dog, watch the girl for a few minutes, etc), so she stopped hanging out with them and would spend most of her time off in her room.

It is shocking to me, if all of this is true, how fast this all happened, considering she was only here for a year, and during the first few months, she had a boyfriend and was complaining about the family.
At what point did BB and her just became so close to the point of having an affair and she started helping him plot the death of his lifetime partner ? You know what I mean?

Anyways, just wanted to share my thoughts and experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

If CB and BB were knowingly to each other in open relationships why did BB react so suspiciously to a strange car in front of his house? Why wouldn’t he just assume that CB had a friend over and tell the AP not to worry about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last few days have been filled with details that support CB planning the rendezvous with Joe. It is very interesting to see the BB haters twist themselves in knots as more and more evidence comes out supporting the fact that CB was having an affair/hookup and initiated contact with Joe.

Curious if CB and BB had ever done c*ck scenes with a 3rd before of if this was a first. C*ck fetishes are almost always pushed by the man. Per friend, Joe had met with both before agreeing to go to their house, common for safety. Joe had never done knife play, CB had a clotting disorder, pretty apparent who of the 3 raised it and why.

Crazed BB defender - if sex merits the death penalty in your eyes, should we ready the chair for BB who was banging the AP and others? I get that smearing and dehumanizing them is your jam but entire thing is very likely to have been orchestrated by BB, even if was not first c*ck scene. We will see if anyone else comes forward.

Literally no one said that.

As far as crazed…

[Anonymous]

PP says that the Au pair heard BB scream “put the knife down” and she ran to the bedroom.

Who does that?!? She left a SAFE spot, left a CHILD alone, did NOT dial 911 and then ran toward known danger. It could be that she was acting irrationally in a panic. But that’s just very odd behavior and I’m not surprised they charged her. Can it really be “self defense” is she chose to pursue it? She should be charged with child endangerment too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP says that the Au pair heard BB scream “put the knife down” and she ran to the bedroom.

Who does that?!? She left a SAFE spot, left a CHILD alone, did NOT dial 911 and then ran toward known danger. It could be that she was acting irrationally in a panic. But that’s just very odd behavior and I’m not surprised they charged her. Can it really be “self defense” is she chose to pursue it? She should be charged with child endangerment too!

+1

What skin did she have in that game as a employee in a foreign country to RUN TO THE DANGER? Most would get the hell out of there and at the very least call 911.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP says that the Au pair heard BB scream “put the knife down” and she ran to the bedroom.

Who does that?!? She left a SAFE spot, left a CHILD alone, did NOT dial 911 and then ran toward known danger. It could be that she was acting irrationally in a panic. But that’s just very odd behavior and I’m not surprised they charged her. Can it really be “self defense” is she chose to pursue it? She should be charged with child endangerment too!

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

If CB and BB were knowingly to each other in open relationships why did BB react so suspiciously to a strange car in front of his house? Why wouldn’t he just assume that CB had a friend over and tell the AP not to worry about it.

Something about that has been bothering me too. If my husband/or I came home and saw a car in our driveway we'd think there was someone doing something in the house- like a repair, etc. I wouldn't freak out as my first thought. Especially for Juliana to have that reaction, its not her home/she's an employee - so why was she so triggered by seeing someone go into the home. There was no forced entry, so wouldn't she have thought it was someone her employer knew and mind her own business? Anyway this part of the story is a little strange to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is shocking to me, if all of this is true, how fast this all happened, considering she was only here for a year, and during the first few months, she had a boyfriend and was complaining about the family.

At what point did BB and her just became so close to the point of having an affair and she started helping him plot the death of his lifetime partner ? You know what I mean?

Anyways, just wanted to share my thoughts and experience.

Glad you did not respond!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

If CB and BB were knowingly to each other in open relationships why did BB react so suspiciously to a strange car in front of his house? Why wouldn’t he just assume that CB had a friend over and tell the AP not to worry about it.

Something about that has been bothering me too. If my husband/or I came home and saw a car in our driveway we'd think there was someone doing something in the house- like a repair, etc. I wouldn't freak out as my first thought. Especially for Juliana to have that reaction, its not her home/she's an employee - so why was she so triggered by seeing someone go into the home. There was no forced entry, so wouldn't she have thought it was someone her employer knew and mind her own business? Anyway this part of the story is a little strange to me.

It doesn't make a lot of sense, like retrieving and firing a second gun when LE BB had a loaded one in his hand, or taking a preschooler into what your thought was a crime in progress and leaving her alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

If CB and BB were knowingly to each other in open relationships why did BB react so suspiciously to a strange car in front of his house? Why wouldn’t he just assume that CB had a friend over and tell the AP not to worry about it.

Something about that has been bothering me too. If my husband/or I came home and saw a car in our driveway we'd think there was someone doing something in the house- like a repair, etc. I wouldn't freak out as my first thought. Especially for Juliana to have that reaction, its not her home/she's an employee - so why was she so triggered by seeing someone go into the home. There was no forced entry, so wouldn't she have thought it was someone her employer knew and mind her own business? Anyway this part of the story is a little strange to me.

If the plan had been for the AP to take the kid to the zoo and mom’s plan was to enjoy peace and quiet/alone time and/or there were no planned visitors, I could see why the appearance of an unknown car in the driveway might trigger alarm bells.