NYT Times interview with Brian Kohlberger’s sister

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this basically the story of Rob Reiner's son, except that one is more acceptable because he turned on his own parents, making the family more sympathetic?

Did the parents cover up the Reiner murders? I mean, I guess it's true that they knew it was him yet they didn't turn him in...

They were dead. So: no.

That's no excuse. They knew who did it; they should have turned him in.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

I think it would be highly unusual for an adult to suddenly develop ASD. But maybe some of the defensive parents in here can set me straight if there is a late onset version I’ve never heard of.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

Never threatened others with violence? Looks like he had a physical altercation with his sister. Someone in here acted like that was totally normal, but I don’t agree with that. She tried to force him out of the house and he grabbed her hands. What’s up with that?

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

I didn't say locked up, but I do think the laws should be changed to force hospitalization, meds, group homes, etc for extremely odd and more extreme behaviors. We have three classes in one of the schools where I work with kids who demonstrate extreme emotional/behavioral difficulties. It is very naive to say or pretend that these kids don't ever show violent behavior. I'm not buying that Brian never exhibited concerning behavior that needed to be monitored. Like Nick Reiner, Adam Lanza, Cho and others, there's a history that should have been taken more seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

Never threatened others with violence? Looks like he had a physical altercation with his sister. Someone in here acted like that was totally normal, but I don’t agree with that. She tried to force him out of the house and he grabbed her hands. What’s up with that?

I agreed above that the sister's claim that Brian wasn't violent, then mentioning he grabbed her hands didn't line up. But no one called the police, no one pressed charges at the time. And maybe the sister was more the aggressor during that argument, who knows?

So now mom calls the police and says, hey, my 28yo son got into an argument with his sister 7 years ago and they both were fighting each other, but my son secured her hands so she couldn't hurt him, so will you please commit him to a mental facility because he might be violent in the future?

It's just not practical to lock up all these people with odd behaviors. We stand a better chance if they have threatened strangers with unexplained violence, police were involved, charges were involved, etc. But getting into a shoving match with your sibling and grabbing her hands to keep her from hitting you or hitting you back? I just don't think this rises to locking people up or forcing them into psychiatric care and forced meds.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

I didn't say locked up, but I do think the laws should be changed to force hospitalization, meds, group homes, etc for extremely odd and more extreme behaviors. We have three classes in one of the schools where I work with kids who demonstrate extreme emotional/behavioral difficulties. It is very naive to say or pretend that these kids don't ever show violent behavior. I'm not buying that Brian never exhibited concerning behavior that needed to be monitored. Like Nick Reiner, Adam Lanza, Cho and others, there's a history that should have been taken more seriously.

I'm the PP whose son spent a month at a psych hospital. When you are forcing hospitalization and meds, it is completely "locked up". It's okay to say it, because that's exactly what it is. He was definitely "locked up". Armed guards, double doors, monitored locations, small locked areas, forced medication.

Cause if there were no locks, he would have walked right out of there and said no thanks to the treatment.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

Never threatened others with violence? Looks like he had a physical altercation with his sister. Someone in here acted like that was totally normal, but I don’t agree with that. She tried to force him out of the house and he grabbed her hands. What’s up with that?

I agreed above that the sister's claim that Brian wasn't violent, then mentioning he grabbed her hands didn't line up. But no one called the police, no one pressed charges at the time. And maybe the sister was more the aggressor during that argument, who knows?

So now mom calls the police and says, hey, my 28yo son got into an argument with his sister 7 years ago and they both were fighting each other, but my son secured her hands so she couldn't hurt him, so will you please commit him to a mental facility because he might be violent in the future?

It's just not practical to lock up all these people with odd behaviors. We stand a better chance if they have threatened strangers with unexplained violence, police were involved, charges were involved, etc. But getting into a shoving match with your sibling and grabbing her hands to keep her from hitting you or hitting you back? I just don't think this rises to locking people up or forcing them into psychiatric care and forced meds.

Well, there were certainly signs at work:

“She said Kohberger would stand at the assistant’s desk, even directly behind her at times, looking over her shoulder as she worked. Another professor was asked to escort the assistant to her car after work because of Kohberger’s behavior, according to the documents.

One student said whenever she looked up, Kohberger, who was a teaching assistant in her class, was “always” staring, according to the records. He rarely spoke to students, she told police. She felt he would time his exit to leave when she did and then follow her to her car.”
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“Mark my word, I work with predators, if we give him a PhD, that’s the guy that in many years when he is a professor, we will hear is harassing, stalking, and sexually abusing … his students,” one of Kohberger’s teachers told her colleagues during the meeting, according to the documents.



https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/us/kohberger-washington-state-university-peers-police-interviews-hnk

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

I didn't say locked up, but I do think the laws should be changed to force hospitalization, meds, group homes, etc for extremely odd and more extreme behaviors. We have three classes in one of the schools where I work with kids who demonstrate extreme emotional/behavioral difficulties. It is very naive to say or pretend that these kids don't ever show violent behavior. I'm not buying that Brian never exhibited concerning behavior that needed to be monitored. Like Nick Reiner, Adam Lanza, Cho and others, there's a history that should have been taken more seriously.

I'm the PP whose son spent a month at a psych hospital. When you are forcing hospitalization and meds, it is completely "locked up". It's okay to say it, because that's exactly what it is. He was definitely "locked up". Armed guards, double doors, monitored locations, small locked areas, forced medication.

Cause if there were no locks, he would have walked right out of there and said no thanks to the treatment.

PP here. Actually, I agree with all you've shared in this post and previously and have some understanding on a personal level due to three extended family members with autism (severe manifestation) and schizophrenia. I meant (but poorly worded) that I didn't mean jail or prison.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

Never threatened others with violence? Looks like he had a physical altercation with his sister. Someone in here acted like that was totally normal, but I don’t agree with that. She tried to force him out of the house and he grabbed her hands. What’s up with that?

I agreed above that the sister's claim that Brian wasn't violent, then mentioning he grabbed her hands didn't line up. But no one called the police, no one pressed charges at the time. And maybe the sister was more the aggressor during that argument, who knows?

So now mom calls the police and says, hey, my 28yo son got into an argument with his sister 7 years ago and they both were fighting each other, but my son secured her hands so she couldn't hurt him, so will you please commit him to a mental facility because he might be violent in the future?

It's just not practical to lock up all these people with odd behaviors. We stand a better chance if they have threatened strangers with unexplained violence, police were involved, charges were involved, etc. But getting into a shoving match with your sibling and grabbing her hands to keep her from hitting you or hitting you back? I just don't think this rises to locking people up or forcing them into psychiatric care and forced meds.

Well, there were certainly signs at work:

“She said Kohberger would stand at the assistant’s desk, even directly behind her at times, looking over her shoulder as she worked. Another professor was asked to escort the assistant to her car after work because of Kohberger’s behavior, according to the documents.

One student said whenever she looked up, Kohberger, who was a teaching assistant in her class, was “always” staring, according to the records. He rarely spoke to students, she told police. She felt he would time his exit to leave when she did and then follow her to her car.”
…

“Mark my word, I work with predators, if we give him a PhD, that’s the guy that in many years when he is a professor, we will hear is harassing, stalking, and sexually abusing … his students,” one of Kohberger’s teachers told her colleagues during the meeting, according to the documents.



https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/us/kohberger-washington-state-university-peers-police-interviews-hnk

PP you responded to, and yes, these are scary behaviors. When I last read about the case, I heard Brian was about to lose his TA position. I don't know if kicking him out as a student would have been the next step.

But it's so hard to leap from these weird, disturbing behaviors, to taking these behaviors to a court of law and asking the state to arrest him and/or "lock him up"?

I just don't see how we only siphon out the bad guys who will go on to do heinous things, without locking up a bunch of weirdos who we worry might do terrible things, but would have just continued to be oddballs who never became violent.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

Never threatened others with violence? Looks like he had a physical altercation with his sister. Someone in here acted like that was totally normal, but I don’t agree with that. She tried to force him out of the house and he grabbed her hands. What’s up with that?

I agreed above that the sister's claim that Brian wasn't violent, then mentioning he grabbed her hands didn't line up. But no one called the police, no one pressed charges at the time. And maybe the sister was more the aggressor during that argument, who knows?

So now mom calls the police and says, hey, my 28yo son got into an argument with his sister 7 years ago and they both were fighting each other, but my son secured her hands so she couldn't hurt him, so will you please commit him to a mental facility because he might be violent in the future?

It's just not practical to lock up all these people with odd behaviors. We stand a better chance if they have threatened strangers with unexplained violence, police were involved, charges were involved, etc. But getting into a shoving match with your sibling and grabbing her hands to keep her from hitting you or hitting you back? I just don't think this rises to locking people up or forcing them into psychiatric care and forced meds.

Well, there were certainly signs at work:

“She said Kohberger would stand at the assistant’s desk, even directly behind her at times, looking over her shoulder as she worked. Another professor was asked to escort the assistant to her car after work because of Kohberger’s behavior, according to the documents.

One student said whenever she looked up, Kohberger, who was a teaching assistant in her class, was “always” staring, according to the records. He rarely spoke to students, she told police. She felt he would time his exit to leave when she did and then follow her to her car.”
…

“Mark my word, I work with predators, if we give him a PhD, that’s the guy that in many years when he is a professor, we will hear is harassing, stalking, and sexually abusing … his students,” one of Kohberger’s teachers told her colleagues during the meeting, according to the documents.



https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/us/kohberger-washington-state-university-peers-police-interviews-hnk

PP you responded to, and yes, these are scary behaviors. When I last read about the case, I heard Brian was about to lose his TA position. I don't know if kicking him out as a student would have been the next step.

But it's so hard to leap from these weird, disturbing behaviors, to taking these behaviors to a court of law and asking the state to arrest him and/or "lock him up"?

I just don't see how we only siphon out the bad guys who will go on to do heinous things, without locking up a bunch of weirdos who we worry might do terrible things, but would have just continued to be oddballs who never became violent.

For the university (or any employer) a big part of the problem is that if you get it wrong, you open the institution up to liability. I know that sounds nuts but it's not farfetched. If the employee has not actually *done* anything, and they could claim any kind of protected status (including disability due to a mental health disorder), you can't take punitive action.

And the thing is, I can see a situation in which the ability to just fire someone for making people uncomfortable could be used to discriminate against a person, or a situation where an employee has a totally not harmful (to other people) mental health issue like depression or anxiety and it's used to terminate them unfairly. That obviously wasn't what was going on with Brian, but you can easily imagine scenarios where it could happen. What about when the person like Brian is in a position of authority -- you don't want to give them power to get an employee terminated or put on a psych hold just by saying "oh she made me uncomfortable."

It sucks. No one wants to wait until someone does someone violent, and this case is the perfect example of why -- the first genuinely violent and illegal action Brian appears to have taken was the violent murder of four completely innocent people. But there is nothing you can point to and say "yes, there, that's the thing that should have gotten him locked up." Yes some of his behavior is concerning but none of it was illegal. I truly don't know what we do about that. Lots of weird people really are harmless.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

Never threatened others with violence? Looks like he had a physical altercation with his sister. Someone in here acted like that was totally normal, but I don’t agree with that. She tried to force him out of the house and he grabbed her hands. What’s up with that?

I agreed above that the sister's claim that Brian wasn't violent, then mentioning he grabbed her hands didn't line up. But no one called the police, no one pressed charges at the time. And maybe the sister was more the aggressor during that argument, who knows?

So now mom calls the police and says, hey, my 28yo son got into an argument with his sister 7 years ago and they both were fighting each other, but my son secured her hands so she couldn't hurt him, so will you please commit him to a mental facility because he might be violent in the future?

It's just not practical to lock up all these people with odd behaviors. We stand a better chance if they have threatened strangers with unexplained violence, police were involved, charges were involved, etc. But getting into a shoving match with your sibling and grabbing her hands to keep her from hitting you or hitting you back? I just don't think this rises to locking people up or forcing them into psychiatric care and forced meds.

Well, there were certainly signs at work:

“She said Kohberger would stand at the assistant’s desk, even directly behind her at times, looking over her shoulder as she worked. Another professor was asked to escort the assistant to her car after work because of Kohberger’s behavior, according to the documents.

One student said whenever she looked up, Kohberger, who was a teaching assistant in her class, was “always” staring, according to the records. He rarely spoke to students, she told police. She felt he would time his exit to leave when she did and then follow her to her car.”
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“Mark my word, I work with predators, if we give him a PhD, that’s the guy that in many years when he is a professor, we will hear is harassing, stalking, and sexually abusing … his students,” one of Kohberger’s teachers told her colleagues during the meeting, according to the documents.



https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/us/kohberger-washington-state-university-peers-police-interviews-hnk

PP you responded to, and yes, these are scary behaviors. When I last read about the case, I heard Brian was about to lose his TA position. I don't know if kicking him out as a student would have been the next step.

But it's so hard to leap from these weird, disturbing behaviors, to taking these behaviors to a court of law and asking the state to arrest him and/or "lock him up"?

I just don't see how we only siphon out the bad guys who will go on to do heinous things, without locking up a bunch of weirdos who we worry might do terrible things, but would have just continued to be oddballs who never became violent.

We need to at least move past the idea that nobody could have seen this coming because he was acting perfectly normal.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe BK was always a problem child, however, I do not believe his parents had reason to think he would turn into a quadruple murderer. I don’t blame his family at all, but I find the sister’s interview self serving and a bad look.

Of course he was. He was morbidly obese, bullied, then lost a ton of weight. He clearly seems to have autism and who knows what else. He was weird, at best, and scary to the women around him and they had meetings to discuss his off putting behavior. But the family saw nothing. How odd.

Oh what medical credentials do you have that allow you to diagnose autism without examining a patient?

I said he “seems” it’s not a diagnosis. But his lawyers say the same thing so maybe you’ll take their word for it. It’s pretty obvious.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/24/us/bryan-kohberger-death-penalty-autism-diagnosis

+1 which means he was displaying odd behaviors for a very long time. He should have been under a psychiatrist's care with close monitoring and appropriate meds.

Brian was 28 at the time of the murders, had just graduated from DeSales University and had been accepted into a good PhD program with recommendations from recognized professors.

How do you force an adult to not only see a psychiatrist, but also take the recommended meds? Police: my son is wearing gloves and calling me at 6am - please take him to a locked psych facility and let's mess up his PhD studies and assure he never graduates.

It's one thing if a person has acted out violently in public and put others at risk. It's another that he has ASD traits and odd behavior. In order to lock up this one rare murderer, we are going to have to lock up a ton of people who act odd, but have never threatened others with violence.

Never threatened others with violence? Looks like he had a physical altercation with his sister. Someone in here acted like that was totally normal, but I don’t agree with that. She tried to force him out of the house and he grabbed her hands. What’s up with that?

I agreed above that the sister's claim that Brian wasn't violent, then mentioning he grabbed her hands didn't line up. But no one called the police, no one pressed charges at the time. And maybe the sister was more the aggressor during that argument, who knows?

So now mom calls the police and says, hey, my 28yo son got into an argument with his sister 7 years ago and they both were fighting each other, but my son secured her hands so she couldn't hurt him, so will you please commit him to a mental facility because he might be violent in the future?

It's just not practical to lock up all these people with odd behaviors. We stand a better chance if they have threatened strangers with unexplained violence, police were involved, charges were involved, etc. But getting into a shoving match with your sibling and grabbing her hands to keep her from hitting you or hitting you back? I just don't think this rises to locking people up or forcing them into psychiatric care and forced meds.

Well, there were certainly signs at work:

“She said Kohberger would stand at the assistant’s desk, even directly behind her at times, looking over her shoulder as she worked. Another professor was asked to escort the assistant to her car after work because of Kohberger’s behavior, according to the documents.

One student said whenever she looked up, Kohberger, who was a teaching assistant in her class, was “always” staring, according to the records. He rarely spoke to students, she told police. She felt he would time his exit to leave when she did and then follow her to her car.”
…

“Mark my word, I work with predators, if we give him a PhD, that’s the guy that in many years when he is a professor, we will hear is harassing, stalking, and sexually abusing … his students,” one of Kohberger’s teachers told her colleagues during the meeting, according to the documents.



https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/19/us/kohberger-washington-state-university-peers-police-interviews-hnk

I completely agree this all sounds like escalating dangerous behavior and its so frustrating to hear about it now given what happened next.

However, his family was not aware of this behavior. And we don't have reports that he behaved this way when he was living with his family. In fact, as another PP pointed out, he had two female professors at DeSales who thought he was wonderful and recommended him for the PhD program, and no indication that he'd had these issues in undergrad.

Maybe being far from his family led to some disinhibition that brought this behavior out. Maybe he was using drugs again. Maybe he is schizophrenic and this was when his symptoms really emerged, that would track with the timeline of many people with schizophrenia, as late 20s is often when these issues emerge and prior to that the person may appear to offbeat but otherwise totally functional. I mean it could be so many things.

The worst part is just not knowing.