If your child was TO or below 1400 on the SAT, how are they doing in college?

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Anonymous wrote:A 1400 is the 94th percentile. Do you really think that only the top 6 percent of SAT scorers can handle college?

Yes, thanks for asking!

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Anonymous wrote:When half of the class are TO, you won't be any different from half of the class. You sort of do fine.

The right comparison is the put a TO kid in a test required school. Then ask the question how they are doing there. It would be tough.

There’s no harder curriculum between a test required and test optional school. You really think Florida Institute of Technology and University of Tennessee Southern have more difficult curriculums than Princeton and Carnegie Mellon? You’re delusional.

It may not be the curriculum. It's the difference in peers and the competition you TO kids would face in different schools. When half of the class are TO, your TO kids are competing with half of class being TO who are less competent. When it's test required, your TO kids are facing a lot tougher competition.

It is also possible that, in TO schools, professors may have to water down the curriculum when a large number of the TO kids cannot follow what they teach. We hear a lot of complain from the professors these days, and Harvard initiated the remedial math class.

None of this is true.

You're putting too much emphasis one and standardized test.

80%+ of colleges don't.

Six out of eight ivies are test required.
The majority of T20 are test required, for a reason.

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SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SATs are the only way to really assess a student's ability. Sorry you can't cheat on the SAT like you could in classes and are upset. 🤷‍♀️

The bigger issue is that class gpa are so inflated these days. As are handed out like free candy. GPAs, particularly unweighted, mean very little.

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I wonder how sad TO kids are with their Ivy and T50 degrees lol. Nobody cares once you start college. Only insane people focus on an SAT score after admittance to college. These kids are leaders in their college community and doing things in and out of the classroom. There’s more to life than a test score. College Board created a cult.

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People who hate on TO seem like parents with sour grapes because their precious DC got rejected from the T10 with a 1580 and is now resigned to go to the flagship.

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Anonymous wrote:When half of the class are TO, you won't be any different from half of the class. You sort of do fine.

The right comparison is the put a TO kid in a test required school. Then ask the question how they are doing there. It would be tough.

There’s no harder curriculum between a test required and test optional school. You really think Florida Institute of Technology and University of Tennessee Southern have more difficult curriculums than Princeton and Carnegie Mellon? You’re delusional.

It may not be the curriculum. It's the difference in peers and the competition you TO kids would face in different schools. When half of the class are TO, your TO kids are competing with half of class being TO who are less competent. When it's test required, your TO kids are facing a lot tougher competition.

It is also possible that, in TO schools, professors may have to water down the curriculum when a large number of the TO kids cannot follow what they teach. We hear a lot of complain from the professors these days, and Harvard initiated the remedial math class.

None of this is true.

You're putting too much emphasis one and standardized test.

80%+ of colleges don't.

Six out of eight ivies are test required.
The majority of T20 are test required, for a reason.

So....20 out of 4,000 schools? Thanks.

Get real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder how sad TO kids are with their Ivy and T50 degrees lol. Nobody cares once you start college. Only insane people focus on an SAT score after admittance to college. These kids are leaders in their college community and doing things in and out of the classroom. There’s more to life than a test score. College Board created a cult.

Sorry, but I've suspected (incompetent) people in my life got into their t50 schools test-optional and have been right on at least two occasions.

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Anonymous wrote:People who hate on TO seem like parents with sour grapes because their precious DC got rejected from the T10 with a 1580 and is now resigned to go to the flagship.

No, it's just curious why the second you step into an environment where cheating is largely impossible (unless you send in someone in your place, but ID checking supposedly protects against that) you suddenly can't perform. It's interesting.

[Anonymous]

The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

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Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

Um...approximately 80% submitting is above many schools. Are you okay, mentally?

[Anonymous]

Excellent!

My kids got in the 1200s. B+/A- grades in high school. Both picked colleges that were just right for them. Dean's List, happy, well adjusted!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People who hate on TO seem like parents with sour grapes because their precious DC got rejected from the T10 with a 1580 and is now resigned to go to the flagship.

No, it's just curious why the second you step into an environment where cheating is largely impossible (unless you send in someone in your place, but ID checking supposedly protects against that) you suddenly can't perform. It's interesting.

Why is it believed that the TO student cheated in class and not the student who took the SAT 4+ times to get a 1590? I’m actually in college. Not 45 like may posters.I have highly intelligent peers who didn’t submit or never took the SAT and peers who got 1500+ and aren’t the brightest. I go to a T20. Everyone’s ambitious and works hard here. Nobody cares about who took the test and who didn’t. Even if one is behind the professor doesn’t dumb down the material but instead has office hours to assist students. We also have peer tutoring for every subject. Colleges aren’t crumbling because of TO. Kids have imposter syndrome and are trying to one up each other over arbitrary measures.

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Anonymous wrote:The unwashed masses of Ohio State with over 40,000 students and their freshman class test submitting rate is 20% for SAT and 60% for ACT. Yuck. Who knew absolute dunces were walking amongst us. /s

Um...approximately 80% submitting is above many schools. Are you okay, mentally?

You can’t believe that it’s solely independent. I’ll give you 50% but many kids take both and submit both. It’s not one or the other. Point being OSU, one of the largest schools in the country doesn’t have a 100% submit rate and is doing fine.

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Anonymous wrote:People who hate on TO seem like parents with sour grapes because their precious DC got rejected from the T10 with a 1580 and is now resigned to go to the flagship.

No, it's just curious why the second you step into an environment where cheating is largely impossible (unless you send in someone in your place, but ID checking supposedly protects against that) you suddenly can't perform. It's interesting.

Why is it believed that the TO student cheated in class and not the student who took the SAT 4+ times to get a 1590? I’m actually in college. Not 45 like may posters.I have highly intelligent peers who didn’t submit or never took the SAT and peers who got 1500+ and aren’t the brightest. I go to a T20. Everyone’s ambitious and works hard here. Nobody cares about who took the test and who didn’t. Even if one is behind the professor doesn’t dumb down the material but instead has office hours to assist students. We also have peer tutoring for every subject. Colleges aren’t crumbling because of TO. Kids have imposter syndrome and are trying to one up each other over arbitrary measures.

...Because it's very hard to cheat on the SAT and easy to cheat in classes? And you seem to be erroneously equating retakes with cheating, somehow? Obviously you aren't the brightest.