Are people really carb free?

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Anonymous wrote:Insanity, and unhealthy. I week for the colon and intestines.


Learn more.


Fiber is a carb. If you're cutting fiber, you are insane. There is no other "learning" needed.


Most people who are carb free are low carb. A chicken salad is low carb (unless the dressing is high carb) and is the type of meal that will help you lose weight. It is also delicious.


Apples and oranges and sweet potatoes are also delicious and help people lose weight. And also incredibly nutritious and healthy for you.

It's one thing to cut out white flour breads and cakes. It's incredibly stupid and unhealthy to go "low carb" when you're cutting out incredibly healthful things.



DP. I ignore anyone who suggests cutting out or severely reducing fruit.


Agree. It's a litmus test for idiocy.

You don't get fat or diabetes from eating whole fruit, vegetables, beans, legumes, barley, etc.

Sure, limit refined sugars, juices, and flours. But carbs (or sugars) from whole fruits and vegetables? Completely healthy and beneficial for you.

You are on the right track, but you are going to extremes, so you are still incorrect.
Fruit evolved to be desirable and fattening to animals that ate it in abundance, so yes you certainly can become overweight and diabetitc from eating too much of certain fruits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I haven’t had a carb since 2004.


No fruit, vegetables or dairy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I haven’t had a carb since 2004.


Not one single vegetable or one berry?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Human have been eating rice and bread since time immemorial.

F carb free.

True but that was before people had supermarkets with plenty of prepared meat. In the days when people had to kill their meat, they ate a lot less meat and a lot more rice/bread.
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Anonymous wrote:Human have been eating rice and bread since time immemorial.

F carb free.

True but that was before people had supermarkets with plenty of prepared meat. In the days when people had to kill their meat, they ate a lot less meat and a lot more rice/bread.


That's simply not true.

It varied by region, culture, tribe or community, or even by the individual.

The tallest most healthy people the World had ever seen were the Sioux/Cheyenne/Arapaho in the 1700s-1880s. Their diet was about 3-5 POUNDS of meat a day, and meat was 95% of their daily diet.

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Anonymous wrote:Carb free or grain free?

I avoid grains but I get carbs from fruits and vegetables. I wouldn’t even say I’m low carb.


This. I don't eat breads. Sadly. But it's the only way I can stay in my calorie goal and get enough protein. Just had rolled up deli roast beef with a bit of horseradish tonight, with sliced beef steak tomatoes and steamed asparagus. My husband had the wonderfully fresh rustic French baguette for his sandwich.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Human have been eating rice and bread since time immemorial.

F carb free.

True but that was before people had supermarkets with plenty of prepared meat. In the days when people had to kill their meat, they ate a lot less meat and a lot more rice/bread.


We didn't have to kill our meat in the 1970s and most ppl didn't have weight issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Human have been eating rice and bread since time immemorial.

F carb free.

True but that was before people had supermarkets with plenty of prepared meat. In the days when people had to kill their meat, they ate a lot less meat and a lot more rice/bread.


We didn't have to kill our meat in the 1970s and most ppl didn't have weight issues.


DP, but on that topic, it really is shocking to look at pictures of people from the 1970s, 1980s, even the 1990s, and see how thin everyone overall was until just the last 15 years or so, and then an EXPLOSION in obesity.

Something very bad is happening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Human have been eating rice and bread since time immemorial.

F carb free.

True but that was before people had supermarkets with plenty of prepared meat. In the days when people had to kill their meat, they ate a lot less meat and a lot more rice/bread.


We didn't have to kill our meat in the 1970s and most ppl didn't have weight issues.


DP, but on that topic, it really is shocking to look at pictures of people from the 1970s, 1980s, even the 1990s, and see how thin everyone overall was until just the last 15 years or so, and then an EXPLOSION in obesity.

Something very bad is happening.


It's like reading 2010 Vogue and then saying everyone in 2010 is stick thin. Most pics you see are from models or representation of "every day" people in ads who will sell products. It's not reality. My farmer family members were overweight for the entire 1900s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Human have been eating rice and bread since time immemorial.

F carb free.

True but that was before people had supermarkets with plenty of prepared meat. In the days when people had to kill their meat, they ate a lot less meat and a lot more rice/bread.


We didn't have to kill our meat in the 1970s and most ppl didn't have weight issues.


DP, but on that topic, it really is shocking to look at pictures of people from the 1970s, 1980s, even the 1990s, and see how thin everyone overall was until just the last 15 years or so, and then an EXPLOSION in obesity.

Something very bad is happening.


People smoked a ton. There was also a lot less sugar in everything.
Anonymous
Also far less processed foods - I believe that is the issue, not necessarily carbs. I'm an earlier poster who doesn't eat processed carbs, but does eat sweet potato, even white potatoes, quinoa, lentils, etc. It's just the junk in the aisles at the grocery store that I skip.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I haven’t had a carb since 2004.


You don't eat fruit and vegetables?
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Anonymous wrote:There are very specific health conditions that can respond well to extreme low carb diets (like certain forms of epilepsy). Obviously if you have diabetes laying attention to carbs matters, but they don't require eliminating all carbs.

But in general when approaching diets generally the key is moderation and sustainability. Diets where you are required to eat very restrictively usually aren't sustainable. It's more important to find a form of healthy eating that works for you and that you can actually stick with. There isn't a magic one size fits all.


But cutting carbs from everything except fruits and veggies is not unhealthy. It's basically cutting out processed crap and grains. You get plenty of carbs and fiber from fruits and veggies. Eat Whole Foods and cut grains and you will feel better, loose weight and watch your BP and Cholesterol drop as well Nothing harmful from that. Once you do it, when you do have bread or bag of chips or processed crap, you feel like crap, indicating just how bad it is for you


DP: OP is asking about "carb free" -- which is a thing promoted by some podcasters and you tubers. Literally just meat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Human have been eating rice and bread since time immemorial.

F carb free.

True but that was before people had supermarkets with plenty of prepared meat. In the days when people had to kill their meat, they ate a lot less meat and a lot more rice/bread.


We didn't have to kill our meat in the 1970s and most ppl didn't have weight issues.


DP, but on that topic, it really is shocking to look at pictures of people from the 1970s, 1980s, even the 1990s, and see how thin everyone overall was until just the last 15 years or so, and then an EXPLOSION in obesity.

Something very bad is happening.


You are you seeing photos of? Teenage hippies? Movie stars?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Human have been eating rice and bread since time immemorial.

F carb free.

True but that was before people had supermarkets with plenty of prepared meat. In the days when people had to kill their meat, they ate a lot less meat and a lot more rice/bread.


We didn't have to kill our meat in the 1970s and most ppl didn't have weight issues.


DP, but on that topic, it really is shocking to look at pictures of people from the 1970s, 1980s, even the 1990s, and see how thin everyone overall was until just the last 15 years or so, and then an EXPLOSION in obesity.

Something very bad is happening.


It's like reading 2010 Vogue and then saying everyone in 2010 is stick thin. Most pics you see are from models or representation of "every day" people in ads who will sell products. It's not reality. My farmer family members were overweight for the entire 1900s.


Sorry but that's a silly assertion. Public health officials are actually measuring these things, and there has indisputably been a massive increase in overweight/obesity in the population beginning in the 1980s when sugar started being added to everything to replace fat because the government followed and promulgated very poor advice to the public that they should eat very low fat diets. There is a ton of reputable research on this it's not like it's a crazy theory from left field.

Also, I was born in November of 1970 and I have very clear recollection of what people around my looked like in the 70s and 80s versus what they look like now. Yes there were fat people, there have always been fat people - but it wasn't 70% of the population that was overweight or obese. I have lots of photos from trips to Disneyland, trips all over the country to different regions (my family did multiple cross country road trips and we had to stop at every national park, monument, Dollywood, Graceland, etc.) and the crowds of normal every day people were much slenderer than is the norm today. Same if you watch movies from the period and see what the extras - regular people - looked like. Dial up the OG Jaws this summer and revisit what the population of eastern Massachusetts looked like on average back then - that's where I grew up and where I live again now. It was regular Mass folks who sat on the beach and walked around the villages on Martha's Vineyard as extras in that film - very different average sizes than what you'd see on the beach and browsing shop windows this summer.

Robert Lustig's books are an excellent exploration of how the food and healthcare industries have failed Americans on this issue, with a massive helping from the government as lobbied by Big Food interests. I can't recommend his work strongly enough. It starts with his infamous lecture Sugar: The Bitter Truth which I share with you here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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