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Rest in peace Virginia.
Given all she endured as a child, suicide is understandable. But I hope they at least confirm and investigate that it was in fact suicide and not a cover up. |
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Who knows what Epstein and Andrew’s henchmen continued to put her through. Maybe popping up once or twice a year just to stalk her and make her feel uncomfortable enough to never truly feel safe even decades later.
Though to be fair, that can just be trauma and life. Some can find meaning and joy after the event(s) even if they always wear the scars of trauma. Others for whatever reasons struggle in agony for the rest of their lives. I’ll always remember what Tina Turner said. An interviewer asked Tina about her life and it’s worth considering all the fake riches and influence she had, and marrying later in life and settling in Switzerland. Seeking so happy about her abuses and child loss. Tina said the positives never outweighed the traumas. And in the end, she still felt like life wasn’t worth it. She was ready to go. |
| ***fame and riches. Not fake |
| Seeming so happy after her abuses *** |
I read that some of it went directly to Giuffre, some of it went to her charity. |
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quote fail^
She received around 12 milliion dollars, and and additional 4 million dollars went to her charity. At the time, the total amount was 12 million pounds, so I think that's the number that sticks in our minds (mine included). |
| So it wasn’t the kidney issue that killed her? |
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So sad. She fought hard.
What do we think of Dershowitz? Was he innocent? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/08/virginia-giuffre-alan-dershowitz-defamation-lawsuit-jeffrey-epstein |
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+1 We have to take into account she was going through a bad divorce and wasn't able to see her kids because of a restraining order. That was a whole different ball |
Her brother has said he was not sure what had exactly happened. He said he thought she and the ex had gotten into it again and the injuries were sustained from that. He wasn't 100% sure how bad the kidney issues were |
Her husband pled guilty to DV in Colorado in 2015 and was on probation, it was cited in court filings by Maxwell. DV occurred in front of the children. Robert Guifrre has quite a windfall from Prince Andrew. He is a MMA instructor, Virginia was tiny. Her kids are likely to be f’d in relationships as adults with this history. They were also being kept from their mom even before her death. Tragic lives of generational trauma, abuse and manipulation. |
So her husband had $$$ to gain from her death. Add a history of DV to that and hopefully there will be a homicide investigation. |