Students enrolled in SEC schools from the Northeast

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

SC is mostly in state (53 percent)

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Anonymous wrote:i realize this data is up until 2023 however what have you noticed at your own schools here in the mid atlantic or elsewhere? I have noticed a trend of students in the class of 2025 opting not to attend any schools in the south even though they were accepted. Years prior I saw a lot more students opting to attend schools in the south.

Why do you think they’re opting not to attend? If they are opting not to go for political reasons, why did they even apply in the first place?

NP here. Some are saying they want to stay away from the political craziness and others are picking schools that have better reputations academically. The weather isn't the biggest draw anymore.

Then, as I said, why even apply in the first place? It’s not like the political craziness only cropped up within the past few months…

It's called having options. My DD's friend got into Kentucky and LSU for example but ultimately decided to go to Wisconsin.

That’s not a fair comparison. That kid would go south if they got in a top SEC flagship like UGA or UF.

+1. Or if they didn’t get into Wisconsin.

UGA/UF vs Wisconsin is a coin flip between peers.

Strong disagree.

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

OOS doesn't necessarily mean NE.

It’s common knowledge that most OOS kids come from the NE.

At UGA for example, the top five states for OOS are NC, Texas, Florida, TN and Va.

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

OOS doesn't necessarily mean NE.

It’s common knowledge that most OOS kids come from the NE.

My D from NE wouldn't consider SEC b/c of politics / red states

My D from SC wouldn’t consider NE b/c of politics. / blue states

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

OOS doesn't necessarily mean NE.

It’s common knowledge that most OOS kids come from the NE.

I’m from TN and knew a ton of kids who went to university of Alabama from TN, MS, GA, etc all over the South. I would guess many OOS students are from the south because that’s predominantly who wants to go to school in the south.

Right. It is not true that most OOS kids in SEC schools are from NE. Tons of kids from GA, FL, TX, TN etc. choose to go to an SEC school not in their state. Particularly from GA, since it is very hard to get into the state flagship. (My son is at an SEC school)

Look at the states that export the most college students. NJ is always at the top.

Sure but those NJ kids are spreading out to a large variety of schools.

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I am NOT surprised people are turning away from Missouri and Oklahoma.

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Anonymous wrote:i realize this data is up until 2023 however what have you noticed at your own schools here in the mid atlantic or elsewhere? I have noticed a trend of students in the class of 2025 opting not to attend any schools in the south even though they were accepted. Years prior I saw a lot more students opting to attend schools in the south.

Why do you think they’re opting not to attend? If they are opting not to go for political reasons, why did they even apply in the first place?

NP here. Some are saying they want to stay away from the political craziness and others are picking schools that have better reputations academically. The weather isn't the biggest draw anymore.

I posted above but I think weather is why you see kids flocking to Alabama and Florida over Oklahoma for instance.

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Anonymous wrote:i realize this data is up until 2023 however what have you noticed at your own schools here in the mid atlantic or elsewhere? I have noticed a trend of students in the class of 2025 opting not to attend any schools in the south even though they were accepted. Years prior I saw a lot more students opting to attend schools in the south.

Why do you think they’re opting not to attend? If they are opting not to go for political reasons, why did they even apply in the first place?

Probably insurance that they get in somewhere good.
Travel costs are an issue.
Being far from family is a problem especially if something like a hurricane hits and you don’t know locals to hunker down with.

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IT certainly is real in our affluent suburb. Here not many want to go to Columbia/Barnard, Swarthmore or Oberlin.

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Anonymous wrote:This chart is a little misleading because Alabama is mostly OOS, but they were like that before this percent change was captured. Same for South Carolina. This does validate that UTK has come on strong for those that don’t get in UF/UGA/SC.

SC is mostly in state (53 percent)

47% OOS is significant. Tons of NE kids at SC.

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I definitely see more kids going to big southern universities this year than in prior years for DD's Catholic high school in NoVA. I think it's a combination of weather, cheaper OOS tuition, and not getting into UVA/VA Tech but still wanting the fun sporty school environment.

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Anonymous wrote:I definitely see more kids going to big southern universities this year than in prior years for DD's Catholic high school in NoVA. I think it's a combination of weather, cheaper OOS tuition, and not getting into UVA/VA Tech but still wanting the fun sporty school environment.

Does everyone go to the SEC instead of JMU now?

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Anonymous wrote:I definitely see more kids going to big southern universities this year than in prior years for DD's Catholic high school in NoVA. I think it's a combination of weather, cheaper OOS tuition, and not getting into UVA/VA Tech but still wanting the fun sporty school environment.

Does everyone go to the SEC instead of JMU now?

No, there are lots of kids going to JMU too. Maybe just not quite as many as before.

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Lots of kids from the Northeast in my kid’s Vandy class (junior)

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Anonymous wrote:i realize this data is up until 2023 however what have you noticed at your own schools here in the mid atlantic or elsewhere? I have noticed a trend of students in the class of 2025 opting not to attend any schools in the south even though they were accepted. Years prior I saw a lot more students opting to attend schools in the south.

Why do you think they’re opting not to attend? If they are opting not to go for political reasons, why did they even apply in the first place?

NP here. Some are saying they want to stay away from the political craziness and others are picking schools that have better reputations academically. The weather isn't the biggest draw anymore.

Then, as I said, why even apply in the first place? It’s not like the political craziness only cropped up within the past few months…

It's called having options. My DD's friend got into Kentucky and LSU for example but ultimately decided to go to Wisconsin.

That’s not a fair comparison. That kid would go south if they got in a top SEC flagship like UGA or UF.

+1. Or if they didn’t get into Wisconsin.

UGA/UF vs Wisconsin is a coin flip between peers.

Not, UGA and Wisconsin are peers but UF is solidly higher than both.