Word of caution for aspiring CS majors

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are English majors in high demand?

Actually, yes. The future is bright for humanities majors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What market isn't saturated?

Also, this is why it is so hard to get admitted to a CS program -- they aren't expanding the seats to meet student demand unless there is market demand.

UMD CP actually halved the CS class, but I think that was due to too many students who are not ready for it being interested in it, and wanting to keep the classes more intimate. UMD is also developing its AI/ML programs.

Job market is cyclical, but low level IT jobs have all been offshored. The big thing now is AI and ML, both of which are related to CS degrees. Some colleges are now starting to offer AI majors. That's the next big thing.

Lets push more kids into a technology whose primary benefit is requiring less workers

shrug.. it is what it is. AI is going to grow no matter how much you don't want it to.

Also, right now, AI is a hot market.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are English majors in high demand?

Actually, yes. The future is bright for humanities majors.

For low paying jobs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get a liberal arts degree (economics and something soft) from the highest ranked school you can.

Recruiting for finance, consulting, and corporate /strategy roles are much much easier if you are in English and economics major coming from Rice or Vanderbilt or Emory compared to CS at Purdue…..

Ask around people!!!

Unless you have good connections/networking, that will not help.

DS will graduate from an Ivy, commencement is today, and he is still looking for for a job, as most of his friends who don't have connections. Those with connections have good jobs.

Your kid had to join the clubs in schools and network network network….
Nothing lands in your lap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Get a liberal arts degree (economics and something soft) from the highest ranked school you can.

Recruiting for finance, consulting, and corporate /strategy roles are much much easier if you are in English and economics major coming from Rice or Vanderbilt or Emory compared to CS at Purdue…..

Ask around people!!!

Unless you have good connections/networking, that will not help.

DS will graduate from an Ivy, commencement is today, and he is still looking for for a job, as most of his friends who don't have connections. Those with connections have good jobs.

Huh? Why wasn’t your kid networking? It’s a requirement in life…..
Social skills people.
Golf and tennis….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's why my kid is double majoring with math. Hoping for options...just in case.

My kid is also a double major in math and CS, but only because they love math. I don't think a math major in and of itself is lucrative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's good that they're not expanding the seats. My English major found a good high-paying job quite easily out of school, but I know there are not clearly established paths for those majors as there are (or at least used to be) for CS majors.

Please share firm and $.

I won't name the firm but it's a large consulting firm with quantitative focus. Salary is around $90k. I agree with the advice to go to the best school you can get into, do as well as you can in that school, and don't accept the notion that you are limited by your major. My English major also took math, econ, government, etc, so firms knew she could do the work.

Great advice.
And hustle. Wherever you are.
I’ve already help DS research the clubs/teams to join at Ivy - will be freshman in fall.

The parenting job doesn’t end once they get in to a top college or program. It shifts and changes. Now they need life & career advice. Show them where to look, questions to ask, clubs to join, people to meet.

I know this is much harder with introverts….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are English majors in high demand?

Actually, yes. The future is bright for humanities majors.

For low paying jobs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/14/here-are-college-majors-with-the-highest-and-lowest-rate-of-return.html


College majors with the highest and lowest return

A recent study published in the American Educational Research Journal found that engineering and computer science majors provide the highest returns in lifetime earnings, followed by business, health, and math and science majors. Education and humanities majors and arts majors had the lowest returns of the 10 fields of study considered.

STEM, health and business majors are among the highest-paying, leading to average annual wages that are higher at the entry level and significantly greater over the course of a career compared with liberal arts and humanities majors.

[Anonymous]

CS + business = best results.

I got a BBA, then went back to school to study CS. That's when my salary sky rocketed.

I would advise do a Business degree with a CS minor, or vice versa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are English majors in high demand?

Actually, yes. The future is bright for humanities majors.

For low paying jobs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/14/here-are-college-majors-with-the-highest-and-lowest-rate-of-return.html


College majors with the highest and lowest return

A recent study published in the American Educational Research Journal found that engineering and computer science majors provide the highest returns in lifetime earnings, followed by business, health, and math and science majors. Education and humanities majors and arts majors had the lowest returns of the 10 fields of study considered.

STEM, health and business majors are among the highest-paying, leading to average annual wages that are higher at the entry level and significantly greater over the course of a career compared with liberal arts and humanities majors.

Adjusted for college rank?

Anthro majors at Dartmouth do not equal anthro majors at UMD

[Anonymous]

Imagine humanities majors

[Anonymous]

Perhaps folks didn't read the article. There is a throwaway line:

"To be sure, comp-sci majors from top-tier schools can still get jobs."

The article also goes on to state that many IT departments of non-tech companies are hiring lots of kids.

Unfortunately, the example kid they give of a CS degree from Catholic is the same story as told about every major since they started writing these articles about every major.

A CS degree from Catholic isn't the same as a CS degree from UMD. Much like a business or english or any other degree from Catholic is not the same as the equivalent from [INSERT TOP SCHOOL HERE].

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why we need entrepreneurs to create more of the jobs your kids want.

We need your kids to be the entrepreneurs! That's what Gates and Zuckerberg and Page did!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's why my kid is double majoring with math. Hoping for options...just in case.

My kid is also a double major in math and CS, but only because they love math. I don't think a math major in and of itself is lucrative.

Math connects back to the data science and financial quant side (and goes further "just for fun")

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps folks didn't read the article. There is a throwaway line:

"To be sure, comp-sci majors from top-tier schools can still get jobs."

The article also goes on to state that many IT departments of non-tech companies are hiring lots of kids.

Unfortunately, the example kid they give of a CS degree from Catholic is the same story as told about every major since they started writing these articles about every major.

A CS degree from Catholic isn't the same as a CS degree from UMD. Much like a business or english or any other degree from Catholic is not the same as the equivalent from [INSERT TOP SCHOOL HERE].

What's CS degree from Catholic??