Word of caution for aspiring CS majors

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Anonymous wrote:why is DCUM assuming comp sci majors have no writing skills?
why is dcum assuming english majors have math skills?

why is dcum assuming comp sci majors have lesser social skills than english majors?

This. My CS major at an Ivy writes beautiful papers and receives solid A's in writing and other humanities classes which are easy in comparison. I wonder how many Humanities majors could do as well in the CS classes - and I'm not talking intro to CS or CS for nonmajors but the weeder classes. Good luck.

Wow you’re very proud aren’t you?

DP. Maybe, but not wrong. The myth is that folks good in STEM are always poor at reading, writing, history, and whatnot. The reality is that many good STEM students also are good at those other easier things.

“They can’t write” is pure cope from the dummies who can’t do math.

Some of us have employed people with STEM degrees. We have first hand experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is majoring in EE. He wants to minor Math but after reading the thread, maybe minoring CS would be more useful

Either would be fine. EE is also a broad field, so it mostly depends on which subset of EE he wants to work in. For things like digital communications (think: 4G, 5G, 6G cellular) then a strong math background would pay off. For embedded systems work, then CS would payboff better.

So we can give more tailored advice, Which subset of EE does he want to work in ?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is majoring in EE. He wants to minor Math but after reading the thread, maybe minoring CS would be more useful

A BSEE includes so much math that a Math minor might not be many additional courses. If a BSEE major and thinking about a CS minor, why not change degree to BS Computer Engineering ? Computer Engineering is maybe 2/3rds ECE courses and 1/3rd CS courses (split % varies by university, of. course) anyway.

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[Anonymous]

I would not be too worried about this. As a CIO with a CS major child the future for these kids is still bright. Tech is general is slowing down a bit but its hard to think of a more practical major. They are not taught programming really, they are taught math and problem solving and critical thinking. My kid can apply math and physics in a way that astounds me. I'm convinced its a better path than my business degree was - they are doing really hard stuff in top programs - they can apply that logic and reasoning to solving problems in a variety of contexts beyond CS if needed.

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Anonymous wrote:why is DCUM assuming comp sci majors have no writing skills?
why is dcum assuming english majors have math skills?

why is dcum assuming comp sci majors have lesser social skills than english majors?

If you need the ones who are also great writers, then maybe your selection process is flawed.

This. My CS major at an Ivy writes beautiful papers and receives solid A's in writing and other humanities classes which are easy in comparison. I wonder how many Humanities majors could do as well in the CS classes - and I'm not talking intro to CS or CS for nonmajors but the weeder classes. Good luck.

Wow you’re very proud aren’t you?

DP. Maybe, but not wrong. The myth is that folks good in STEM are always poor at reading, writing, history, and whatnot. The reality is that many good STEM students also are good at those other easier things.

“They can’t write” is pure cope from the dummies who can’t do math.

Some of us have employed people with STEM degrees. We have first hand experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“They can’t write” is pure cope from the dummies who can’t do math.

Some of us have employed people with STEM degrees. We have first hand experience.

Indeed. I have a lot of people with STEM degrees, including but not limited to CS and ECE degrees, and they all can write correctly, including things such as the Subjunctive (which more than 50% of Americans get wrong). People who are hiring STEM graduates know they can write well.

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Anonymous wrote:“They can’t write” is pure cope from the dummies who can’t do math.

Some of us have employed people with STEM degrees. We have first hand experience.

Indeed. I have a lot of people with STEM degrees, including but not limited to CS and ECE degrees, and they all can write correctly, including things such as the Subjunctive (which more than 50% of Americans get wrong). People who are hiring STEM graduates know they can write well.

Work in scientific research. My peers' writing skills are at the level of a 3rd grade ELA CAPE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would not be too worried about this. As a CIO with a CS major child the future for these kids is still bright. Tech is general is slowing down a bit but its hard to think of a more practical major. They are not taught programming really, they are taught math and problem solving and critical thinking. My kid can apply math and physics in a way that astounds me. I'm convinced its a better path than my business degree was - they are doing really hard stuff in top programs - they can apply that logic and reasoning to solving problems in a variety of contexts beyond CS if needed.

This. The top programs in particular will have no trouble with their grads continuing to get excellent degrees. Specific skills change over time; wht does not is the need for top thinkers who can solve the complex problems and adapt/learn the new skills as technology changes. This is why any-old CS program(or Engineering one) will NOT do. Seek the ones that teach critical thinking , the most difficult math/science/computer skills and problem solving along with leadership skills .

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Anonymous wrote:Are English majors in high demand?

Actually, yes. The future is bright for humanities majors.

For low paying jobs.

For decent paying jobs. Most top schools report humanities majors evening out with stem majors mid career.

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Anonymous wrote:why is DCUM assuming comp sci majors have no writing skills?
why is dcum assuming english majors have math skills?

why is dcum assuming comp sci majors have lesser social skills than english majors?

This. My CS major at an Ivy writes beautiful papers and receives solid A's in writing and other humanities classes which are easy in comparison. I wonder how many Humanities majors could do as well in the CS classes - and I'm not talking intro to CS or CS for nonmajors but the weeder classes. Good luck.

Wow you’re very proud aren’t you?

DP. Maybe, but not wrong. The myth is that folks good in STEM are always poor at reading, writing, history, and whatnot. The reality is that many good STEM students also are good at those other easier things.

“They can’t write” is pure cope from the dummies who can’t do math.

Some of us have employed people with STEM degrees. We have first hand experience.

But have you employed both new grads with stem and non-stem degrees? Neither of them can write