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Anonymous
Look up the biographies of members of the national team and see where they started out and how they got to where they are now. |
Anonymous
You mean, so saith the VYS rep. This is pure snake oil that you guys are selling. If people are fooled and want to buy it, that's on them. Caveat emptor. |
Anonymous
What the hell? I don't even know what that means, what does VYS have to do with ODP? I was speaking LITERALLY about the actual real-life college coaches that are reaching out to and recruiting my kids, and that have spoken to us at ID camps and showcase events: they like to see State/Region ODP; they like to see ECNL, id2, PDP, Region 1..... but hey why listen to the actual coaches who are looking at and recruiting players? |
Anonymous
Everyone: please make sure you don't show up to any ODP tryouts this year, it's all a scam and a fraud!  (We need to give this guy's kid a chance to get selected this time! ^^^^)
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I don't think anyone really believes it is a fraud or a scam what VYSA(not VYS???) is doing with their ODP program, or for that matter any state soccer assoc.
Some parents are really looking for tips for their kids regarding best soccer-career paths, trainings, clubs, for and going on this forum one resource. I have been tracking this forum ever since my DS joined U9 travel soccer and the past posts have been tremendously helpful and a few of the past posts have contained a wealth of knowledge that quite frankly wouldn't be on any website. For those that post a website link and say go here, and that's all you say, you're not helping. I don't mind reading through some of the garbage that people post to get at the real helpful tips, and I know that not everyone has the same access to funds for extracurricular activities so they will not be as amenable to paying for additional training as others might be. There was one earlier post that everyone seemed to like, which I didn't find helpful at all. It started with *Here's the deal: You do you.* Everyone applauded it but I actually found it to be empty of helpful content. I will make the decision which path to take for DS, no one needs to remind me of that. I'm on here to find out what others liked and disliked about particular trainings, leagues, clubs, everything frankly. So please continue sharing your experiences and know there are people awaiting to hear about your thoughts and OPINIONS(yes, were all aware they're opinions, not facts) on particular programs in NoVA area. |
Anonymous
+100 I think this just underscores the post you didn't like, the point of which was basically: take all the information you receive (facts, opinions, et al), filter it, and find which program(s) work for you while understanding that there will be pros/cons of every program according to different people and their experiences.....which is the point of this whole forum in the first place. |
Anonymous
Pretty sure they meant VYSA. Or some people are so blinded by pointless rage that they can't tell the difference any more. |
Anonymous
My opinion is that DS should have veto power, if not the primary decision in the first place. Atmosphere can be everything. I regret my decision to quit after a couple of seasons at U14, but then I have to remember how much I hated my obnoxious teammates. Would've been nice to have other opportunities, but this was back in the Mezozoic Era. |
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Pretty sure they meant VYSA. Or some people are so blinded by pointless rage that they can't tell the difference any more.
What is the difference between VYS and VYSA? Aren't they the same thing? Virginia Youth Soccer. Like MYS/MYSA. Maryland Youth Soccer. |
Anonymous
Pretty sure they meant VYSA. Or some people are so blinded by pointless rage that they can't tell the difference any more. What is the difference between VYS and VYSA? Aren't they the same thing? Virginia Youth Soccer. Like MYS/MYSA. Maryland Youth Soccer. VYS = Vienna Youth Soccer (a club) VYSA = Virginia Youth Soccer Association (the Virginia oversight org) and MSYSA = Maryland State Youth Soccer Association (the MD equivalent of VYSA) |
Anonymous
Here is one experienced youth soccer parent's perspective. The best soccer career path will depend on your child's talent level, which can be hard to ascertain when they are very young. But if you have a child who seems very talented and is really into the game, you should try to get the best training you can find and easily afford for the crucial 8-12 year old period when they will learn skills and technique, or not. This may require you to do research and watch training sessions and games and talk to parents who are more knowledgeable than you. Don't be shy! What you are looking for at this age are very experienced coaches who are very focused on training future champs. If a coach or club has a track record of getting kids onto National teams or top D1 programs and they seem interested in training your kid, you are probably in a good situation, unless they are unbearable jerks. This will not usually be the case if they have a great soccer resume of developing top players, but I recommend you ignore rough edges if your kid is learning and improving by leaps and bounds. This is boy-specific, because that's my experience. Ideally by the time they are in high school, they will be playing significant minutes or starting on a DA team (soccer wise, it would be best if this team were the LA Galaxy, FC Dallas, or Real SLC in Casa Grande AZ, but the local teams will do just fine if they have a full Academy). If they are impact players on an Academy team AND KEEP THEIR GRADES UP, they can practically write their ticket to a great D1 or DIII program. The schools will come looking for them, and any that don't will be very interested in good DA players who express an interest. If your kid wants to go pro and doesn't have a European passport, they should also be in DA by high school or overseas or Mexico if possible but that's a totally different topic. Prior to high school, a great club team plus id2/PDP/US Soccer Training Centers are top of the heap for exposure and training. It think Id2 showcases in particular are a great pathway--if you do well at one of those, you will receive serious consideration for a youth National team camp. Plus they are FREE. This is true for girls too--in general you can replace DA with ECNL above where applicable and get to the same place. Kids outside the DA who start for a team playing in the National League and/or whose teams play in the top brackets of top tournaments like Disney and Surf Cup will probably also have plenty of opportunities. With respect to ODP, at least one PP has claimed that College coaches consider it a plus, and I'm certainly willing to believe it's the case for some, though I haven't heard it mentioned as any kind of a factor by the coaches we have met. Back in the day before DA and ECNL, I have the sense ODP carried some weight. It certainly can be a good source of extra training if you have the time and money. There was a poster on a different soccer thread here who asked if it was legit to attend multiple tryouts to get your kid extra training, which I thought was awesome. That seems like the sort of thing ODP is good for. but I don't think there is a need for it if your kid is a good player who can perform well at a college ID camp and has decent grades. The Olympic team will be made of National pool players, the vast, vast majority of whom will have played in DA or ECNL. If your player is not great but loves the game, then I recommend you put more weight on the Positive Coaching Alliance type stuff. Find a team with an inspiring coach and good teammates, and see what you can do to foster their love of sports and activity. |
Anonymous
| Pardon my ignorance but what is ID2 and PDP? Thanks |
Anonymous
Well firstly I apologize since the posting of URLs to websites with complete info is somehow offensive, but seriously, its just better for you to read here than for me to type an essay, so here it is: id2 is basically a scouting/identification program for the Youth National team - http://usclubsoccer.org/programs/player-identification/id2-program/ PDP is the program that hosts scouting events for id2. hard to explain so please read - http://usclubsoccer.org/programs/player-identification/pdp/" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> http://usclubsoccer.org/programs/player-identification/pdp/ |
Anonymous
I thoroughly apologize for my crappy URL presentation. |
Anonymous
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And for anyone who is interested, this just happened yesterday:
http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/06/30/19/42/160630-development-academy-us-soccer-announces-first-25-clubs-for-girls-development-academy |