Fairfax County Double Murder

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

I see your point and I still debate whether he did it or not. It’s surprising for me that he’s working for Uber.
One thing, though: I was in court for the hearing. The call where you can hear a man moaning in the back was the first call, not second. First call that had 3 seconds.

If the first call had 3 seconds of a man moaning and the second call was 10 minutes later, what could BBs explanation be???

No ambulance summoned for his beloved wife with a clotting disorder in all that time? Hmmm...

Have you seen a picture of the safe? Opening that would have taken some time.

Because shooting a blinded incapacitated man was priority over saving his wife's life. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

I see your point and I still debate whether he did it or not. It’s surprising for me that he’s working for Uber.
One thing, though: I was in court for the hearing. The call where you can hear a man moaning in the back was the first call, not second. First call that had 3 seconds.

If the first call had 3 seconds of a man moaning and the second call was 10 minutes later, what could BBs explanation be???

No ambulance summoned for his beloved wife with a clotting disorder in all that time? Hmmm...

Have you seen a picture of the safe? Opening that would have taken some time.

Because shooting a blinded incapacitated man was priority over saving his wife's life. Got it.

We don’t know what AP was doing. The fact she tried to call 911 twice and hung up might actually be in her favor. Could just show that she panicked and reacted wildly. If this was pre-planned, I don’t know if we’d have such a confusing story. And BB would have talked to the cops immediately to spin his “tale”, since keeping silent made him look much more suspicious.

Plus a lot of people react weirdly in high stress situations. Maybe BB didn’t realize she hung up the phone if he was busy helping his wife. Which would explain the gap in the timeline. There’s no reason to take more time to “plan” their stories if they already pre-planned a story. They could have just done that while the cops on the way.

Since they went to the gun range together twice, maybe she knew where it was already?


AP’s behavior is truly bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

I see your point and I still debate whether he did it or not. It’s surprising for me that he’s working for Uber.
One thing, though: I was in court for the hearing. The call where you can hear a man moaning in the back was the first call, not second. First call that had 3 seconds.

If the first call had 3 seconds of a man moaning and the second call was 10 minutes later, what could BBs explanation be???

No ambulance summoned for his beloved wife with a clotting disorder in all that time? Hmmm...

Have you seen a picture of the safe? Opening that would have taken some time.

Because shooting a blinded incapacitated man was priority over saving his wife's life. Got it.

We don’t know what AP was doing. The fact she tried to call 911 twice and hung up might actually be in her favor. Could just show that she panicked and reacted wildly. If this was pre-planned, I don’t know if we’d have such a confusing story. And BB would have talked to the cops immediately to spin his “tale”, since keeping silent made him look much more suspicious.

Plus a lot of people react weirdly in high stress situations. Maybe BB didn’t realize she hung up the phone if he was busy helping his wife. Which would explain the gap in the timeline. There’s no reason to take more time to “plan” their stories if they already pre-planned a story. They could have just done that while the cops on the way.

Since they went to the gun range together twice, maybe she knew where it was already?


AP’s behavior is truly bizarre.

Yes but wasn’t there like 10 minutes between the first and second 911 call? What in the world could explain that?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

I see your point and I still debate whether he did it or not. It’s surprising for me that he’s working for Uber.
One thing, though: I was in court for the hearing. The call where you can hear a man moaning in the back was the first call, not second. First call that had 3 seconds.

If the first call had 3 seconds of a man moaning and the second call was 10 minutes later, what could BBs explanation be???

No ambulance summoned for his beloved wife with a clotting disorder in all that time? Hmmm...

Have you seen a picture of the safe? Opening that would have taken some time.

Because shooting a blinded incapacitated man was priority over saving his wife's life. Got it.

We don’t know what AP was doing. The fact she tried to call 911 twice and hung up might actually be in her favor. Could just show that she panicked and reacted wildly. If this was pre-planned, I don’t know if we’d have such a confusing story. And BB would have talked to the cops immediately to spin his “tale”, since keeping silent made him look much more suspicious.

Plus a lot of people react weirdly in high stress situations. Maybe BB didn’t realize she hung up the phone if he was busy helping his wife. Which would explain the gap in the timeline. There’s no reason to take more time to “plan” their stories if they already pre-planned a story. They could have just done that while the cops on the way.

Since they went to the gun range together twice, maybe she knew where it was already?


AP’s behavior is truly bizarre.

Yes but wasn’t there like 10 minutes between the first and second 911 call? What in the world could explain that?

Getting the victims closer to death?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

I see your point and I still debate whether he did it or not. It’s surprising for me that he’s working for Uber.
One thing, though: I was in court for the hearing. The call where you can hear a man moaning in the back was the first call, not second. First call that had 3 seconds.

If the first call had 3 seconds of a man moaning and the second call was 10 minutes later, what could BBs explanation be???

No ambulance summoned for his beloved wife with a clotting disorder in all that time? Hmmm...

Have you seen a picture of the safe? Opening that would have taken some time.

Because shooting a blinded incapacitated man was priority over saving his wife's life. Got it.

We don’t know what AP was doing. The fact she tried to call 911 twice and hung up might actually be in her favor. Could just show that she panicked and reacted wildly. If this was pre-planned, I don’t know if we’d have such a confusing story. And BB would have talked to the cops immediately to spin his “tale”, since keeping silent made him look much more suspicious.

Plus a lot of people react weirdly in high stress situations. Maybe BB didn’t realize she hung up the phone if he was busy helping his wife. Which would explain the gap in the timeline. There’s no reason to take more time to “plan” their stories if they already pre-planned a story. They could have just done that while the cops on the way.

Since they went to the gun range together twice, maybe she knew where it was already?


AP’s behavior is truly bizarre.

The confusion works in BB's favor. Makes it seem less "orchestrated" per your own post.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

I see your point and I still debate whether he did it or not. It’s surprising for me that he’s working for Uber.
One thing, though: I was in court for the hearing. The call where you can hear a man moaning in the back was the first call, not second. First call that had 3 seconds.

If the first call had 3 seconds of a man moaning and the second call was 10 minutes later, what could BBs explanation be???

No ambulance summoned for his beloved wife with a clotting disorder in all that time? Hmmm...

Have you seen a picture of the safe? Opening that would have taken some time.

Because shooting a blinded incapacitated man was priority over saving his wife's life. Got it.

We don’t know what AP was doing. The fact she tried to call 911 twice and hung up might actually be in her favor. Could just show that she panicked and reacted wildly. If this was pre-planned, I don’t know if we’d have such a confusing story. And BB would have talked to the cops immediately to spin his “tale”, since keeping silent made him look much more suspicious.

Plus a lot of people react weirdly in high stress situations. Maybe BB didn’t realize she hung up the phone if he was busy helping his wife. Which would explain the gap in the timeline. There’s no reason to take more time to “plan” their stories if they already pre-planned a story. They could have just done that while the cops on the way.

Since they went to the gun range together twice, maybe she knew where it was already?


AP’s behavior is truly bizarre.

Yes but wasn’t there like 10 minutes between the first and second 911 call? What in the world could explain that?

Getting the victims closer to death?

If they were honestly calling 911 for help, they never would have hung up. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.

I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.

I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.

After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).

To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.

The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.

CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.

Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.

Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.

BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.

All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.

Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.

The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"

I see your point and I still debate whether he did it or not. It’s surprising for me that he’s working for Uber.
One thing, though: I was in court for the hearing. The call where you can hear a man moaning in the back was the first call, not second. First call that had 3 seconds.

If the first call had 3 seconds of a man moaning and the second call was 10 minutes later, what could BBs explanation be???

No ambulance summoned for his beloved wife with a clotting disorder in all that time? Hmmm...

Have you seen a picture of the safe? Opening that would have taken some time.

Because shooting a blinded incapacitated man was priority over saving his wife's life. Got it.

We don’t know what AP was doing. The fact she tried to call 911 twice and hung up might actually be in her favor. Could just show that she panicked and reacted wildly. If this was pre-planned, I don’t know if we’d have such a confusing story. And BB would have talked to the cops immediately to spin his “tale”, since keeping silent made him look much more suspicious.

Plus a lot of people react weirdly in high stress situations. Maybe BB didn’t realize she hung up the phone if he was busy helping his wife. Which would explain the gap in the timeline. There’s no reason to take more time to “plan” their stories if they already pre-planned a story. They could have just done that while the cops on the way.

Since they went to the gun range together twice, maybe she knew where it was already?


AP’s behavior is truly bizarre.

Yes but wasn’t there like 10 minutes between the first and second 911 call? What in the world could explain that?

It was 15 minutes--even longer. That's a LONG time.

[Anonymous]

Especially when your stabbed wife has a known blood clotting disorder. Your first aid at the scene would not exceed the benefit of immediate emergency care.

There are not too many possible goals for the delay. This is a significant issue for the defense if he is charged.

Re: her, she's young, ESL, reliant on him as the host dad and LE for direction, etc. But, she did call and hang up. So, issue for her defense too.

[Anonymous]

So you think there’s an intruder in the House, your wife is naked with a man with a knife, Your four-year-old daughter is in the house and it’s at such an extreme situation that You need to shoot a man in the eye and you don’t call 911 immediately? Just makes no sense anyway you look at it.

[Anonymous]

Is BB on the spectrum by chance? His lack of visible emotion and reactions just seem abnormal to be honest. And I say this as someone with many family members in that situation. Often times they (my family) are misunderstood.

[Anonymous]

Instead of yelling call 911 you yell go get a second gun?

[Anonymous]

And calmly convey the combo to the gun safe, the gun safe in another room.

You don't yell, take the kid and get out and then call 911?

What responsible parent or caregiver would have taken the child in the home and left her alone? If it was an actual home invasion there could be multiple people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is BB on the spectrum by chance? His lack of visible emotion and reactions just seem abnormal to be honest. And I say this as someone with many family members in that situation. Often times they (my family) are misunderstood.

No, he's just a terrible person. Very typical uxoricidal behavior.

See: Scott Peterson, Drew Peterson, OJ Simpson, Alex Murdaugh, Fotis Dulos, Charles Stuart, Chris Watts, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is BB on the spectrum by chance? His lack of visible emotion and reactions just seem abnormal to be honest. And I say this as someone with many family members in that situation. Often times they (my family) are misunderstood.

I've wondered the same. His affect reads as very off. Of course, could still be a killer, not mutually exclusive. His sense of how things read to others, like the photos and clothes in the master is also really off.

Could also be on the spath spectrum.

[Anonymous]

New word to me, pp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uxoricide