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[Anonymous]

ODP is a commitment, to traveling and to training. PLEASE PLEASE if you can't commit to it, don't even try out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ODP is a commitment, to traveling and to training. PLEASE PLEASE if you can't commit to it, don't even try out.

Do you think the days, times, and location of training will be published soon?

[Anonymous]

Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

If some the best players in the area are coming together and training with some of the best trainers in the area, how is that just a money grab? How can that have no value?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

Girls play soccer too. Let's not forget that while MLS and USMNT may be languishing, even embarrassing, the women are first in the world and NWSL is thriving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

If some the best players in the area are coming together and training with some of the best trainers in the area, how is that just a money grab? How can that have no value?

Flawed premise. None of the best players play ODP anymore. They play in the DA/ECNL because they know that is where they will get exposure, experience, and high quality training. The state ODP training is beyond terrible. You should go and look. If you know anything about football, you would be embarrassed by what the state associations are currently putting out there (with the possible exception of MD). It wasn't always that way, but it is now. Jurgen has nationalized elite soccer in much the same way that the Germans did previously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ODP is a commitment, to traveling and to training. PLEASE PLEASE if you can't commit to it, don't even try out.

Do you think the days, times, and location of training will be published soon?

You can check here: http://www.vysa.com

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

If some the best players in the area are coming together and training with some of the best trainers in the area, how is that just a money grab? How can that have no value?

Flawed premise. None of the best players play ODP anymore. They play in the DA/ECNL because they know that is where they will get exposure, experience, and high quality training. The state ODP training is beyond terrible. You should go and look. If you know anything about football, you would be embarrassed by what the state associations are currently putting out there (with the possible exception of MD). It wasn't always that way, but it is now. Jurgen has nationalized elite soccer in much the same way that the Germans did previously.

So kids who play in the DAs do not do ODP? Is that by choice or by rule?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

If some the best players in the area are coming together and training with some of the best trainers in the area, how is that just a money grab? How can that have no value?

They are not the best players in the area. Many of them are in no formal leagues or training.

I send my kids to play with these kids in street soccer everyday they don't have formal training.

ODP is for blowhards that want to brag and travel needlessly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

If some the best players in the area are coming together and training with some of the best trainers in the area, how is that just a money grab? How can that have no value?

Flawed premise. None of the best players play ODP anymore. They play in the DA/ECNL because they know that is where they will get exposure, experience, and high quality training. The state ODP training is beyond terrible. You should go and look. If you know anything about football, you would be embarrassed by what the state associations are currently putting out there (with the possible exception of MD). It wasn't always that way, but it is now. Jurgen has nationalized elite soccer in much the same way that the Germans did previously.

Nah. They aren't in DA either. DA has closed tryouts for the most part. Unless a parent had their head up coaches ass from a young age they don't stand a chance. Watch how they pre-seed tryout fields. Like most everything else, it's become purely political and pay-to-play. Hence, the crap we show up with at Copa America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

If some the best players in the area are coming together and training with some of the best trainers in the area, how is that just a money grab? How can that have no value?

Flawed premise. None of the best players play ODP anymore. They play in the DA/ECNL because they know that is where they will get exposure, experience, and high quality training. The state ODP training is beyond terrible. You should go and look. If you know anything about football, you would be embarrassed by what the state associations are currently putting out there (with the possible exception of MD). It wasn't always that way, but it is now. Jurgen has nationalized elite soccer in much the same way that the Germans did previously.

Simply not true, but whatever. The fewer who show up for tryouts, the better chances my little super-star has to be selected....oh and damn you Klinsman for ruining USA soccer forever! {{shakes fist at sky}}

[Anonymous]

I wanted my son to be part of the VYSA ODP Academy last year, but couldn't make it to tryouts. I emailed them, and after not being able to find a time for him to tryout, they accepted him anyway. He was U9 so it's fine if they're accepting everybody, I just don't like the way it's billed a "ELITE" "CHAMPIONS" "TOP" "COMMITTED" "ACADEMY" for "SUPER SERIOUS" players. It's just more training for your kid, and if your kid is already good they'll offer him exclusive training for more money. Nothing wrong with this, as long as they were to say only kids that are already really good move on but we'll train your kid anyway. I do have to say I expected more from my state's soccer association.

I would recommend to any parent with 5-6 year olds to seek really good training, or train the kid themselves. You never know what you're going to get once they're travel ready and join clubs with coaches looking towards their next "JR. YOUTH SOCCER DIRECTOR!!!" position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

If some the best players in the area are coming together and training with some of the best trainers in the area, how is that just a money grab? How can that have no value?

They are not the best players in the area. Many of them are in no formal leagues or training.

I send my kids to play with these kids in street soccer everyday they don't have formal training.

ODP is for blowhards that want to brag and travel needlessly.

HA! Best trainers, you don't really know which trainer you're going to get and how much dedication they will have to the Saturday/Sunday night training. Usually all the kids are tired after having a league game and most of the coaches will have already been doing some organized soccer that weekend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jurgen has rendered ODP irrelevant in the current youth soccer landscape. What used to be ODP has been replaced by the U.S. Development Academies and others. The state associations still try to spin it as "elite" and the primary way to get "exposure," increasingly to younger and younger families who haven't enough experience to know better yet, but it is not. It is, as a PP noted, simply a way for the state soccer associations to make money for themselves and their trainers.

If some the best players in the area are coming together and training with some of the best trainers in the area, how is that just a money grab? How can that have no value?

Flawed premise. None of the best players play ODP anymore. They play in the DA/ECNL because they know that is where they will get exposure, experience, and high quality training. The state ODP training is beyond terrible. You should go and look. If you know anything about football, you would be embarrassed by what the state associations are currently putting out there (with the possible exception of MD). It wasn't always that way, but it is now. Jurgen has nationalized elite soccer in much the same way that the Germans did previously.

So kids who play in the DAs do not do ODP? Is that by choice or by rule?

By Rule. DA only allows the team to train together and do organized soccer together. It's a control measure for good reason. You actually aren't even allowed to do HS soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wanted my son to be part of the VYSA ODP Academy last year, but couldn't make it to tryouts. I emailed them, and after not being able to find a time for him to tryout, they accepted him anyway. He was U9 so it's fine if they're accepting everybody, I just don't like the way it's billed a "ELITE" "CHAMPIONS" "TOP" "COMMITTED" "ACADEMY" for "SUPER SERIOUS" players. It's just more training for your kid, and if your kid is already good they'll offer him exclusive training for more money. Nothing wrong with this, as long as they were to say only kids that are already really good move on but we'll train your kid anyway. I do have to say I expected more from my state's soccer association.

I would recommend to any parent with 5-6 year olds to seek really good training, or train the kid themselves. You never know what you're going to get once they're travel ready and join clubs with coaches looking towards their next "JR. YOUTH SOCCER DIRECTOR!!!" position.

There are few things that are wrong with your post.

1. "ODP Academy" (now called D-ODP) starts at U10 and goes through U12.
2. ODP is NOT ODP. ODP Academy will accept everyone as long as there are slots. It is only slightly competitive to get into and that is because it is NOT ODP. Consider it "Pre ODP" like your clubs "Pre-Travel" program that might be somewhat selective
3. True selective ODP starts at U13.