ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

The only reason they wouldn’t allow that is if showcases are grad year it doesn’t make sense to have a 12 month cut off and only for Aug kids to be grade aligned when there’s going to be plenty of Sept-Dec players who are also not going to be grade aligned with the majority of the team.

Kids will not be mandated to play up if showcases and league play are 8/1-7/31 that just does not make sense.

If a kid is able to compete at the level and wants to stay with their classmates I’m sure that will happen also.

But clubs with lots of competition telling a player and parent sorry you have to play up but other clubs GA or ECNL says we’d love to have your talented player and take your money.

I just don’t see clubs doing that unless the player and parents are wanting to play up.

If these players were any good they'd be playing on the A team with their grade. What makes you think the A team a grade below them would want an Aug birthday on their team?

Just play on your kids grade B team. Get better and work your way up to the coreect grade A team.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

Why is this centered around August? School cutoffs go all the way to December. Should September, October, and November birthdays be allowed to play with the grade below? What about kids who start late? If the cutoff is 8/1 but an August birthdate started late, they should be allowed to play their proper age?

Under BY the eligibility window is 1/1-12/31
Under SY the eligibility window is 8/1-7/31

Next season many leagues will be changing from BY to SY.

Aug birthdays can be an issue depending on when your school district starts. Around here schools start 9/1. This means Aug birthdays that are a grade older in school can technically play down on a team thats a grade younger than they are in school.

Other than being humiliating for the player and should be generally embarrassing for their parents, playing down causes issues when playera get older. Older players usually want to get recruited to play for a college team. The probelm is if you're playing down on a grade below your kids grade in school college coaches and recruiters will ignore them until they play with players their grade in school. See how it works? The only way to address the issue is to play on a correct grade team. Or for parents to hold their kid back in school. (This is something leagues and clubs do not want to be responsible for)

Around here the cutoff is 10/1. Other places it’s 11/1 or 12/1. You’re promoting national leagues make rules so why are you only focused on August birthdays?

What districts start 10/1, 11/1, or 12/1?

Stop making things up

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

Why is this centered around August? School cutoffs go all the way to December. Should September, October, and November birthdays be allowed to play with the grade below? What about kids who start late? If the cutoff is 8/1 but an August birthdate started late, they should be allowed to play their proper age?

Under BY the eligibility window is 1/1-12/31
Under SY the eligibility window is 8/1-7/31

Next season many leagues will be changing from BY to SY.

Aug birthdays can be an issue depending on when your school district starts. Around here schools start 9/1. This means Aug birthdays that are a grade older in school can technically play down on a team thats a grade younger than they are in school.

Other than being humiliating for the player and should be generally embarrassing for their parents, playing down causes issues when playera get older. Older players usually want to get recruited to play for a college team. The probelm is if you're playing down on a grade below your kids grade in school college coaches and recruiters will ignore them until they play with players their grade in school. See how it works? The only way to address the issue is to play on a correct grade team. Or for parents to hold their kid back in school. (This is something leagues and clubs do not want to be responsible for)

Around here the cutoff is 10/1. Other places it’s 11/1 or 12/1. You’re promoting national leagues make rules so why are you only focused on August birthdays?

What districts start 10/1, 11/1, or 12/1?

Stop making things up

8 states have cutoffs 9/15 or later not including NJ and NY which can vary by district and are 10/1 and later. NYC is 12/31.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

Why is this centered around August? School cutoffs go all the way to December. Should September, October, and November birthdays be allowed to play with the grade below? What about kids who start late? If the cutoff is 8/1 but an August birthdate started late, they should be allowed to play their proper age?

Under BY the eligibility window is 1/1-12/31
Under SY the eligibility window is 8/1-7/31

Next season many leagues will be changing from BY to SY.

Aug birthdays can be an issue depending on when your school district starts. Around here schools start 9/1. This means Aug birthdays that are a grade older in school can technically play down on a team thats a grade younger than they are in school.

Other than being humiliating for the player and should be generally embarrassing for their parents, playing down causes issues when playera get older. Older players usually want to get recruited to play for a college team. The probelm is if you're playing down on a grade below your kids grade in school college coaches and recruiters will ignore them until they play with players their grade in school. See how it works? The only way to address the issue is to play on a correct grade team. Or for parents to hold their kid back in school. (This is something leagues and clubs do not want to be responsible for)

Around here the cutoff is 10/1. Other places it’s 11/1 or 12/1. You’re promoting national leagues make rules so why are you only focused on August birthdays?

What districts start 10/1, 11/1, or 12/1?

Stop making things up

8 states have cutoffs 9/15 or later not including NJ and NY which can vary by district and are 10/1 and later. NYC is 12/31.

What day do classes start in the fall?

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New Jerey starts classes in Aug or Sept
New York starts classes Sept 4th

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

Why is this centered around August? School cutoffs go all the way to December. Should September, October, and November birthdays be allowed to play with the grade below? What about kids who start late? If the cutoff is 8/1 but an August birthdate started late, they should be allowed to play their proper age?

Under BY the eligibility window is 1/1-12/31
Under SY the eligibility window is 8/1-7/31

Next season many leagues will be changing from BY to SY.

Aug birthdays can be an issue depending on when your school district starts. Around here schools start 9/1. This means Aug birthdays that are a grade older in school can technically play down on a team thats a grade younger than they are in school.

Other than being humiliating for the player and should be generally embarrassing for their parents, playing down causes issues when playera get older. Older players usually want to get recruited to play for a college team. The probelm is if you're playing down on a grade below your kids grade in school college coaches and recruiters will ignore them until they play with players their grade in school. See how it works? The only way to address the issue is to play on a correct grade team. Or for parents to hold their kid back in school. (This is something leagues and clubs do not want to be responsible for)

Around here the cutoff is 10/1. Other places it’s 11/1 or 12/1. You’re promoting national leagues make rules so why are you only focused on August birthdays?

What districts start 10/1, 11/1, or 12/1?

Stop making things up

8 states have cutoffs 9/15 or later not including NJ and NY which can vary by district and are 10/1 and later. NYC is 12/31.

What day do classes start in the fall?

There you go. Never let data get in the way of your argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Jerey starts classes in Aug or Sept
New York starts classes Sept 4th

Thank you, this is the thing about DCUM with anonymous posting thats interesting. On other social media platforms idiots post nonsense and get away with it. Nobody calls them out because they dont want to get involved with anything negative. Even when they know what was written was/is incorrect. Here discussions actually occur.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

The only reason they wouldn’t allow that is if showcases are grad year it doesn’t make sense to have a 12 month cut off and only for Aug kids to be grade aligned when there’s going to be plenty of Sept-Dec players who are also not going to be grade aligned with the majority of the team.

Kids will not be mandated to play up if showcases and league play are 8/1-7/31 that just does not make sense.

If a kid is able to compete at the level and wants to stay with their classmates I’m sure that will happen also.

But clubs with lots of competition telling a player and parent sorry you have to play up but other clubs GA or ECNL says we’d love to have your talented player and take your money.

I just don’t see clubs doing that unless the player and parents are wanting to play up.

If these players were any good they'd be playing on the A team with their grade. What makes you think the A team a grade below them would want an Aug birthday on their team?

Just play on your kids grade B team. Get better and work your way up to the coreect grade A team.

How good my kids born is or isn’t has nothing to do with it? If a player is at the level to play up and wants to I have no doubts clubs will allow this my point is that if a player is skilled but maybe on the smaller side and wants to play within the 12 month window a club will definitely allow that to happen especially if they are a player good enough to play up.

If options for Aug players are B team playing up or A team playing their age group and the player is good enough to help the A team win games I just don’t see a club fighting parents to play their age group.

Will I be wrong? Maybe? We will find out after the spring tryout window.

Also again what about September players? Will they also be forced up to play with their grade? Or any other kid who started early and is grade misaligned?

Not going to happen. Clubs want to win.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

Why is this centered around August? School cutoffs go all the way to December. Should September, October, and November birthdays be allowed to play with the grade below? What about kids who start late? If the cutoff is 8/1 but an August birthdate started late, they should be allowed to play their proper age?

Under BY the eligibility window is 1/1-12/31
Under SY the eligibility window is 8/1-7/31

Next season many leagues will be changing from BY to SY.

Aug birthdays can be an issue depending on when your school district starts. Around here schools start 9/1. This means Aug birthdays that are a grade older in school can technically play down on a team thats a grade younger than they are in school.

Other than being humiliating for the player and should be generally embarrassing for their parents, playing down causes issues when playera get older. Older players usually want to get recruited to play for a college team. The probelm is if you're playing down on a grade below your kids grade in school college coaches and recruiters will ignore them until they play with players their grade in school. See how it works? The only way to address the issue is to play on a correct grade team. Or for parents to hold their kid back in school. (This is something leagues and clubs do not want to be responsible for)

Around here the cutoff is 10/1. Other places it’s 11/1 or 12/1. You’re promoting national leagues make rules so why are you only focused on August birthdays?

What districts start 10/1, 11/1, or 12/1?

Stop making things up

8 states have cutoffs 9/15 or later not including NJ and NY which can vary by district and are 10/1 and later. NYC is 12/31.

What day do classes start in the fall?

Because that’s when school starts? My kids school district cut off is 9/15 but we start in August. Your school start date doesn’t always align exactly with the date they use to decide when kids should start kindergarten.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

The only reason they wouldn’t allow that is if showcases are grad year it doesn’t make sense to have a 12 month cut off and only for Aug kids to be grade aligned when there’s going to be plenty of Sept-Dec players who are also not going to be grade aligned with the majority of the team.

Kids will not be mandated to play up if showcases and league play are 8/1-7/31 that just does not make sense.

If a kid is able to compete at the level and wants to stay with their classmates I’m sure that will happen also.

But clubs with lots of competition telling a player and parent sorry you have to play up but other clubs GA or ECNL says we’d love to have your talented player and take your money.

I just don’t see clubs doing that unless the player and parents are wanting to play up.

If these players were any good they'd be playing on the A team with their grade. What makes you think the A team a grade below them would want an Aug birthday on their team?

Just play on your kids grade B team. Get better and work your way up to the coreect grade A team.

There are no grades in club soccer so your rambling makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

The only reason they wouldn’t allow that is if showcases are grad year it doesn’t make sense to have a 12 month cut off and only for Aug kids to be grade aligned when there’s going to be plenty of Sept-Dec players who are also not going to be grade aligned with the majority of the team.

Kids will not be mandated to play up if showcases and league play are 8/1-7/31 that just does not make sense.

If a kid is able to compete at the level and wants to stay with their classmates I’m sure that will happen also.

But clubs with lots of competition telling a player and parent sorry you have to play up but other clubs GA or ECNL says we’d love to have your talented player and take your money.

I just don’t see clubs doing that unless the player and parents are wanting to play up.

If these players were any good they'd be playing on the A team with their grade. What makes you think the A team a grade below them would want an Aug birthday on their team?

Just play on your kids grade B team. Get better and work your way up to the coreect grade A team.

There are no grades in club soccer so your rambling makes no sense.

This idiot doesn’t even realize they are pushing for grad year… at the same time hates grad year…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

The only reason they wouldn’t allow that is if showcases are grad year it doesn’t make sense to have a 12 month cut off and only for Aug kids to be grade aligned when there’s going to be plenty of Sept-Dec players who are also not going to be grade aligned with the majority of the team.

Kids will not be mandated to play up if showcases and league play are 8/1-7/31 that just does not make sense.

If a kid is able to compete at the level and wants to stay with their classmates I’m sure that will happen also.

But clubs with lots of competition telling a player and parent sorry you have to play up but other clubs GA or ECNL says we’d love to have your talented player and take your money.

I just don’t see clubs doing that unless the player and parents are wanting to play up.

If these players were any good they'd be playing on the A team with their grade. What makes you think the A team a grade below them would want an Aug birthday on their team?

Just play on your kids grade B team. Get better and work your way up to the coreect grade A team.

There are no grades in club soccer so your rambling makes no sense.

This idiot doesn’t even realize they are pushing for grad year… at the same time hates grad year…

Obviously you haven't figured it out yet.

Im ok with players playing with their grade. What Im not ok with is players playing down for wins.

Traditionally GY means everyone in a certain grade can play in that grade grouping with no restrictions. This doesnt work because you end up with holdbacks and 16 year old freshman. As long as the stupid holdbacks arent included Im ok with what you might call "GY with rules" or SY with a rule saying aug birthdays must play with their grade.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

The only reason they wouldn’t allow that is if showcases are grad year it doesn’t make sense to have a 12 month cut off and only for Aug kids to be grade aligned when there’s going to be plenty of Sept-Dec players who are also not going to be grade aligned with the majority of the team.

Kids will not be mandated to play up if showcases and league play are 8/1-7/31 that just does not make sense.

If a kid is able to compete at the level and wants to stay with their classmates I’m sure that will happen also.

But clubs with lots of competition telling a player and parent sorry you have to play up but other clubs GA or ECNL says we’d love to have your talented player and take your money.

I just don’t see clubs doing that unless the player and parents are wanting to play up.

If these players were any good they'd be playing on the A team with their grade. What makes you think the A team a grade below them would want an Aug birthday on their team?

Just play on your kids grade B team. Get better and work your way up to the coreect grade A team.

There are no grades in club soccer so your rambling makes no sense.

Right...Grade in school doesnt count. Except when you use it as a way to justify Switching from BY to SY to reduce the number of trapped players. Such a hypocrite.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

The only reason they wouldn’t allow that is if showcases are grad year it doesn’t make sense to have a 12 month cut off and only for Aug kids to be grade aligned when there’s going to be plenty of Sept-Dec players who are also not going to be grade aligned with the majority of the team.

Kids will not be mandated to play up if showcases and league play are 8/1-7/31 that just does not make sense.

If a kid is able to compete at the level and wants to stay with their classmates I’m sure that will happen also.

But clubs with lots of competition telling a player and parent sorry you have to play up but other clubs GA or ECNL says we’d love to have your talented player and take your money.

I just don’t see clubs doing that unless the player and parents are wanting to play up.

If these players were any good they'd be playing on the A team with their grade. What makes you think the A team a grade below them would want an Aug birthday on their team?

Just play on your kids grade B team. Get better and work your way up to the coreect grade A team.

There are no grades in club soccer so your rambling makes no sense.

Right...Grade in school doesnt count. Except when you use it as a way to justify Switching from BY to SY to reduce the number of trapped players. Such a hypocrite.

Moving to BY was not a popular move, clubs were not consulted and BY caused problems. Now moving back to SY which was better. You arguing for GY seems to unique. People seem very against GY.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and late grower. Still growing in 10th grade actually. PP at 12:20 is exactly right. Highly technical but never big enough. Now will be youngest as well. Should have planned better 15 years ago…

If she is born in August, she will be lumped into the || 1 August--31 July || group. She would be the oldest kid in the new grouping. Next year, she will be in 11th Grade on a predominantly 10th Grade team. (If your grade year cut off is 1 October to 30 September).

Clubs won't allow playing down like this.

It is not Playing down. The new rules have nothing to do with what the player's actual Grade or Graduation Year is. It is just a new 12-month grouping that moved from Jan-December to August-July. We have mixed grades now and we will have mixed grades in the new grouping as well.

In the example above, the player is born in August. She will be a Junior next year. But, she will play in a new grouping that is August to July. Players born in August and September, will be the oldest kids (Juniors), and be a grade level above the October to July Kids (who would be Sophomores).

You're not wrong to be confused, that is why we have over 1200 pages on this topic.

As others have said its going to be fun reading your threads this spring when you find out that clubs won't let Aug birthdays play down.

The only reason they wouldn’t allow that is if showcases are grad year it doesn’t make sense to have a 12 month cut off and only for Aug kids to be grade aligned when there’s going to be plenty of Sept-Dec players who are also not going to be grade aligned with the majority of the team.

Kids will not be mandated to play up if showcases and league play are 8/1-7/31 that just does not make sense.

If a kid is able to compete at the level and wants to stay with their classmates I’m sure that will happen also.

But clubs with lots of competition telling a player and parent sorry you have to play up but other clubs GA or ECNL says we’d love to have your talented player and take your money.

I just don’t see clubs doing that unless the player and parents are wanting to play up.

If these players were any good they'd be playing on the A team with their grade. What makes you think the A team a grade below them would want an Aug birthday on their team?

Just play on your kids grade B team. Get better and work your way up to the coreect grade A team.

There are no grades in club soccer so your rambling makes no sense.

Right...Grade in school doesnt count. Except when you use it as a way to justify Switching from BY to SY to reduce the number of trapped players. Such a hypocrite.

Moving to BY was not a popular move, clubs were not consulted and BY caused problems. Now moving back to SY which was better. You arguing for GY seems to unique. People seem very against GY.

Im not argueing for GY.

All I want is SY 8/1-7/31 and Aug birthdays cant play down. This addresses all the issues and keeps the holdbacks out.