Jessica Krug

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, so what if she pretended to be black? It may be considered offensive to some people, but she is far from the only one doing this, Kardashians anyone?! Obviously, she has some deep seated issues, and I find it sad more than anything. She didn’t commit a crime, yes, she lied, but who really cares?

Everyone constantly calls out the Kardashians for cultural appropriation. And they don’t even pretend they’re black - just pick and choose what they like from the culture while talking about their Armenian heritage.

This woman’s actions have taken opportunities from actual minorities.

This. Her faculty position was a diversity spot. She's also won awards meant for POC.

Ok, so what do you suggest? Jail time?

PP. She should lose her ill-gotten tenured faculty position, for starters.

Fine, then just leave her alone. Let her move on and get the help she obviously needs. No point in bullying her.

Oh please, this woman’s an obvious sociopath. She’s probably lying about the mental illness and childhood trauma too. She was writing pieces online pretending to be a black Latina right up until she was about to be exposed earlier this week.

Ok...so what should the consequences be? Fire her. Should she pay a hefty fine? Community service? House arrest? Jail time? Or should we just bully her indefinitely?

She should be removed from her tenure track job, of course, and be forced to pay back any grants she received.

She should be charged with fraud for knowingly applying for and using grants and scholarships that were meant for Black people.

Exactly. We throw poor people in jail for stealing a soda from 7-11, but there's actually some thought *not* to charge her?

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question. What difference does it make if she identifies as Black? Is this not the same as females who identify as males? Males who identify as females?

It seems hypocritical to me as a society.

I do think it matters if she uses her fake race to her advantage, but of course it’s hypocritical. If people can be transgender, why not trans-race?
Also, this is what comes from so much focus on race and creating policies and hiring/admissions standards based on race, a trait no one chooses and is born with. Race is a continuum, and a social construct. People are people.

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Someone just exposed another academic for doing this same thing -- this time at U of Wisconsin. Great read.

https://medium.com/@polite_keppel_dinosaur_57/cv-vitolo-haddad-another-academic-racial-fraud-c5c41fe32110

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Yep. Krug is the tip of the grifter and fraud iceberg. There will be more.

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question. What difference does it make if she identifies as Black? Is this not the same as females who identify as males? Males who identify as females?

It seems hypocritical to me as a society.

I do think it matters if she uses her fake race to her advantage, but of course it’s hypocritical. If people can be transgender, why not trans-race?
Also, this is what comes from so much focus on race and creating policies and hiring/admissions standards based on race, a trait no one chooses and is born with. Race is a continuum, and a social construct. People are people.

She was already privileged, claimed to be black to be even more privileged. Took a scholarship and a position meant for someone in need

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Anonymous wrote:Honest question. What difference does it make if she identifies as Black? Is this not the same as females who identify as males? Males who identify as females?

It seems hypocritical to me as a society.

I do think it matters if she uses her fake race to her advantage, but of course it’s hypocritical. If people can be transgender, why not trans-race?
Also, this is what comes from so much focus on race and creating policies and hiring/admissions standards based on race, a trait no one chooses and is born with. Race is a continuum, and a social construct. People are people.

She was already privileged, claimed to be black to be even more privileged. Took a scholarship and a position meant for someone in need

+100. First claimed North African, then black and Latino. Also, in addition to taking advantage of opportunities not meant for her, she took advantage of people’s trust. I’m sure some students of color looked up to her as a role model. And she never accepted responsibility, blaming it on mental illness and trauma (and who knows, given that she’s proven herself a pathological liar, she’s probably lying about that too).

Only fitting that she should resign, which she has. I hope she finds a way to make restitution for stolen opportunities.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/jessica-krug-resigns-george-washington-university

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Anonymous wrote:Someone just exposed another academic for doing this same thing -- this time at U of Wisconsin. Great read.

https://medium.com/@polite_keppel_dinosaur_57/cv-vitolo-haddad-another-academic-racial-fraud-c5c41fe32110

NP here.
This was an interesting article .

On a related note, could someone explain the concept of “allowing someone into their sacred space”? This has been mentioned repeatedly with respect to Krug and also in the situation above. As a white person, I can only assume but don’t really know for sure. It sounds important for Black people so I would like to understand this concept to be able to respect it.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone just exposed another academic for doing this same thing -- this time at U of Wisconsin. Great read.

https://medium.com/@polite_keppel_dinosaur_57/cv-vitolo-haddad-another-academic-racial-fraud-c5c41fe32110

NP here.
This was an interesting article .

On a related note, could someone explain the concept of “allowing someone into their sacred space”? This has been mentioned repeatedly with respect to Krug and also in the situation above. As a white person, I can only assume but don’t really know for sure. It sounds important for Black people so I would like to understand this concept to be able to respect it.

Black person here. I think other minority ethic/cultural/religious groups (Latinx, Jewish, etc.) likely have similar experiences. If you're not part of any minority identity, it's hard to understand--but there are private shared experiences and a sense of kinship that you wouldn't expect a majority culture person to be privy to. It's a trust issue, to some extent.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone just exposed another academic for doing this same thing -- this time at U of Wisconsin. Great read.

https://medium.com/@polite_keppel_dinosaur_57/cv-vitolo-haddad-another-academic-racial-fraud-c5c41fe32110

Oofff. Director of Debate for U Wisconsin-Madison.

Interested to see if that one gains any traction. The evidence is pretty damning.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone just exposed another academic for doing this same thing -- this time at U of Wisconsin. Great read.

https://medium.com/@polite_keppel_dinosaur_57/cv-vitolo-haddad-another-academic-racial-fraud-c5c41fe32110

NP here.
This was an interesting article .

On a related note, could someone explain the concept of “allowing someone into their sacred space”? This has been mentioned repeatedly with respect to Krug and also in the situation above. As a white person, I can only assume but don’t really know for sure. It sounds important for Black people so I would like to understand this concept to be able to respect it.

Black person here. I think other minority ethic/cultural/religious groups (Latinx, Jewish, etc.) likely have similar experiences. If you're not part of any minority identity, it's hard to understand--but there are private shared experiences and a sense of kinship that you wouldn't expect a majority culture person to be privy to. It's a trust issue, to some extent.

PP here; thank you for answering my question. I appreciate it.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone just exposed another academic for doing this same thing -- this time at U of Wisconsin. Great read.

https://medium.com/@polite_keppel_dinosaur_57/cv-vitolo-haddad-another-academic-racial-fraud-c5c41fe32110

NP here.
This was an interesting article .

On a related note, could someone explain the concept of “allowing someone into their sacred space”? This has been mentioned repeatedly with respect to Krug and also in the situation above. As a white person, I can only assume but don’t really know for sure. It sounds important for Black people so I would like to understand this concept to be able to respect it.

I think what some minority people may not understand is that white people, in general, do not have a “sacred space”. Not defending her, but maybe Krug wanted to belong to a “sacred space” or part of something bigger. Many “white people” are all just grouped together, and as a result, there is no real culture or sense of belonging at all for them. Minority groups seem to stick together so to speak.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone just exposed another academic for doing this same thing -- this time at U of Wisconsin. Great read.

https://medium.com/@polite_keppel_dinosaur_57/cv-vitolo-haddad-another-academic-racial-fraud-c5c41fe32110

NP here.
This was an interesting article .

On a related note, could someone explain the concept of “allowing someone into their sacred space”? This has been mentioned repeatedly with respect to Krug and also in the situation above. As a white person, I can only assume but don’t really know for sure. It sounds important for Black people so I would like to understand this concept to be able to respect it.

I think what some minority people may not understand is that white people, in general, do not have a “sacred space”. Not defending her, but maybe Krug wanted to belong to a “sacred space” or part of something bigger. Many “white people” are all just grouped together, and as a result, there is no real culture or sense of belonging at all for them. Minority groups seem to stick together so to speak.

I tend to think that she was mostly responding to an incentive structure to further her career and make money and that asking why she did it is like asking why Madoff told the lies that he was a genius investor.

But you do have a point about belonging, though she could have leaned into her Jewish heritage if that was all it was.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone just exposed another academic for doing this same thing -- this time at U of Wisconsin. Great read.

https://medium.com/@polite_keppel_dinosaur_57/cv-vitolo-haddad-another-academic-racial-fraud-c5c41fe32110

NP here.
This was an interesting article .

On a related note, could someone explain the concept of “allowing someone into their sacred space”? This has been mentioned repeatedly with respect to Krug and also in the situation above. As a white person, I can only assume but don’t really know for sure. It sounds important for Black people so I would like to understand this concept to be able to respect it.

I think what some minority people may not understand is that white people, in general, do not have a “sacred space”. Not defending her, but maybe Krug wanted to belong to a “sacred space” or part of something bigger. Many “white people” are all just grouped together, and as a result, there is no real culture or sense of belonging at all for them. Minority groups seem to stick together so to speak.

Oh baloney. Society at large is your sacred space as a white person.

Krug sounded like an indulged, privileged child who was seeking attention about being a victim. She wasn’t content to say seeking out support as a woman or being Jewish. She got off on being a marginalized part of society and kept changing her story to make sure she was still the latest thing in being an oppressed minority.

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Anonymous wrote:I work at VS + just learned about this. It is like the story of the white woman who pretended to be black who worked at the N.A.A.C.P. S few years back + was outed.

I think the G.W. Professor looks like she could be part black

Rachel Dolezal... she is mentioned in the article too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone just exposed another academic for doing this same thing -- this time at U of Wisconsin. Great read.

https://medium.com/@polite_keppel_dinosaur_57/cv-vitolo-haddad-another-academic-racial-fraud-c5c41fe32110

NP here.
This was an interesting article .

On a related note, could someone explain the concept of “allowing someone into their sacred space”? This has been mentioned repeatedly with respect to Krug and also in the situation above. As a white person, I can only assume but don’t really know for sure. It sounds important for Black people so I would like to understand this concept to be able to respect it.

I think what some minority people may not understand is that white people, in general, do not have a “sacred space”. Not defending her, but maybe Krug wanted to belong to a “sacred space” or part of something bigger. Many “white people” are all just grouped together, and as a result, there is no real culture or sense of belonging at all for them. Minority groups seem to stick together so to speak.

Oh baloney. Society at large is your sacred space as a white person.

Krug sounded like an indulged, privileged child who was seeking attention about being a victim. She wasn’t content to say seeking out support as a woman or being Jewish. She got off on being a marginalized part of society and kept changing her story to make sure she was still the latest thing in being an oppressed minority.

Well that and being able to advance her career.