Since this is anonymous, why did you REALLY redshirt your kid?

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I have three kids born in ten months — a girl in November and twins in September. I had the boys do preschool twice to put some space in between them and their sister; I didn’t want them all in the same grade. They probably would've been fine going “on time” but I’m glad I did it this way. Academically and socially they are right on track and they are doing well. *shrug*

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Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

You'll be pleased to know that our redshirted kid is still at the bottom of her class - because she has developmental issues. So your snowflakes won't be competing with her for a spot at Harvard. You are a giant ass.

It sounds like your daughter is still in elementary school. Colleges only look at high-school performance. Even if she's not doing well now, a lot could change between now and when she's in school, and the advantage she was given could kick in for then. So yes, it actually is a potential worry.

She's in middle school. But feel free to worry if it suits you.

Well, that's still not high school. She could still turn into a stellar student once she's in high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

You'll be pleased to know that our redshirted kid is still at the bottom of her class - because she has developmental issues. So your snowflakes won't be competing with her for a spot at Harvard. You are a giant ass.

It sounds like your daughter is still in elementary school. Colleges only look at high-school performance. Even if she's not doing well now, a lot could change between now and when she's in school, and the advantage she was given could kick in for then. So yes, it actually is a potential worry.

She's in middle school. But feel free to worry if it suits you.

Well, that's still not high school. She could still turn into a stellar student once she's in high school.

We can hope. But with several diagnosed issues it is unlikely. We’d never pick an ivy in any event.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

You'll be pleased to know that our redshirted kid is still at the bottom of her class - because she has developmental issues. So your snowflakes won't be competing with her for a spot at Harvard. You are a giant ass.

It sounds like your daughter is still in elementary school. Colleges only look at high-school performance. Even if she's not doing well now, a lot could change between now and when she's in school, and the advantage she was given could kick in for then. So yes, it actually is a potential worry.

She's in middle school. But feel free to worry if it suits you.

Well, that's still not high school. She could still turn into a stellar student once she's in high school.

DP. DCUMs anti-redshirt posters are so, so weird. Lady, have a glass of wine or something. You are making me really pity your husband.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

You'll be pleased to know that our redshirted kid is still at the bottom of her class - because she has developmental issues. So your snowflakes won't be competing with her for a spot at Harvard. You are a giant ass.

It sounds like your daughter is still in elementary school. Colleges only look at high-school performance. Even if she's not doing well now, a lot could change between now and when she's in school, and the advantage she was given could kick in for then. So yes, it actually is a potential worry.

She's in middle school. But feel free to worry if it suits you.

Well, that's still not high school. She could still turn into a stellar student once she's in high school.

Let me get this straight - you are worried that a kid who was held back before K and who continues to be in the bottom of her class in middle school is somehow a threat to your kid? You need to get a grip. Really.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

You'll be pleased to know that our redshirted kid is still at the bottom of her class - because she has developmental issues. So your snowflakes won't be competing with her for a spot at Harvard. You are a giant ass.

It sounds like your daughter is still in elementary school. Colleges only look at high-school performance. Even if she's not doing well now, a lot could change between now and when she's in school, and the advantage she was given could kick in for then. So yes, it actually is a potential worry.

She's in middle school. But feel free to worry if it suits you.

Well, that's still not high school. She could still turn into a stellar student once she's in high school.

Personally I hope that your daughter turns into an academic superstar and applies to all the same schools that crazy anti-redshirt poster’s kid applies to.

More than that, though, I hope that your daughter gets everything she needs to thrive and reach her full potential and be happy. And that includes being in the grade that’s right for her and that offers her the best chance to learn and grow.

Redshirting is a Rorschach test I think. People who see everything as a competition will see it as a competitive advantage. People who see education as fundamentally about individual nurturing and enrichment will not get wrapped around the axle about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Even though he's mature and independent and was reading when he started K, he struggles a bit more at school.

Personally, I'd rather my kid do okay playing by the rules than excel by cheating.

LOL. I love how a decision that another family makes is "cheating" just because you are terrified it will give their kid an edge over your precious little Larla.

It's not cheating. The rules explicitly allow it. Make choices for your own family, and let others make theirs without having to listen to your whining about how the small percentage of slightly older kids is ruining your darling's experience.

I guess redshirting isn't cheating as long as the redshirted kid isn't allowed to enter any competitions, such as class president or valedictorian. They also shouldn't be allowed to take honors or AP classes, because if a redshirted kid is feeling bored and unchallenged, all that means is that they shouldn't have been redshirted, and that the parents and school really consider moving them to their age-appropriate grade. If redshirted kids wants to play sports, they should be forced to play in their age-appropriate grade. I don't even think redshirted kids should be allowed to apply to any top-20 colleges.

If parents who redshirt really aren't doing it for competitive reasons, then they should be fine with their child not being allowed to compete. Otherwise, they're taking away the victory from an age-appropriate classmate who truly deserved it. If an 11-year-old 5th-grader becomes class president, that means they're being rewarded for proving that they're smarter than most 10-year-olds(How much sense does that make?). A 15-year-old 9th grader taking all honor's classes is only proving that they're too advanced for 14-year-old work. If a high-school senior who should be a college freshman is named valedictorian, they've just robbed the salutatorian of some well-earned glory. If a redshirted student gets into Harvard, they've just killed a life-long dream of whoever was first on the Harvard waiting list.

You'll be pleased to know that our redshirted kid is still at the bottom of her class - because she has developmental issues. So your snowflakes won't be competing with her for a spot at Harvard. You are a giant ass.

It sounds like your daughter is still in elementary school. Colleges only look at high-school performance. Even if she's not doing well now, a lot could change between now and when she's in school, and the advantage she was given could kick in for then. So yes, it actually is a potential worry.

She's in middle school. But feel free to worry if it suits you.

Well, that's still not high school. She could still turn into a stellar student once she's in high school.

Personally I hope that your daughter turns into an academic superstar and applies to all the same schools that crazy anti-redshirt poster’s kid applies to.

More than that, though, I hope that your daughter gets everything she needs to thrive and reach her full potential and be happy. And that includes being in the grade that’s right for her and that offers her the best chance to learn and grow.

Redshirting is a Rorschach test I think. People who see everything as a competition will see it as a competitive advantage. People who see education as fundamentally about individual nurturing and enrichment will not get wrapped around the axle about it.

as PP with "redshirted" daughter - thank you.

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She had social skills issues and language issues and despite therapy for both was still behind. She was also really small for her age. There was also inattentive ADHD that wasn't recognized until much later. Redshirting didn't really help in the end and we do regret it at times.

The lack of social skills was compounded by anxiety which wasn't diagnosed until middle school despite her seeing a couple of therapists for this issue. My feeling in hindsight is they spent more time blaming the environment and what we weren't doing as parents vs. being willing to diagnose anxiety for a young kid. We felt so guilty that we couldn't see this in the moment and just kept blaming ourselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve taught. After seeing many children over the years (more children than most non-educator parents will ever know) it’s been stark how asynchronous development is —intellectual, physical, and emotional. Periodic regressions are also quite real. If I see a behavior problem in the classroom, the first thing I do is check the birthdate to see if the child is young for his or her grade. After seeing how difficult things can be for these younger kids (more frequently discipline, trouble with abstract concepts), I’ve recommended to anyone I know well that they redshirt when possible.

My MIL was a preschool teacher and my aunt is a K teacher. Both recommended we redshirt our DS with a July bday. With the likely chance that a lot of next year will be some mix of DL, we are sending him for another year of pre-K.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve taught. After seeing many children over the years (more children than most non-educator parents will ever know) it’s been stark how asynchronous development is —intellectual, physical, and emotional. Periodic regressions are also quite real. If I see a behavior problem in the classroom, the first thing I do is check the birthdate to see if the child is young for his or her grade. After seeing how difficult things can be for these younger kids (more frequently discipline, trouble with abstract concepts), I’ve recommended to anyone I know well that they redshirt when possible.

My MIL was a preschool teacher and my aunt is a K teacher. Both recommended we redshirt our DS with a July bday. With the likely chance that a lot of next year will be some mix of DL, we are sending him for another year of pre-K.

Since you think that your son truly belongs in the grade behind, this means that you're not going to enroll him in any competitions such as valedictorian or class president, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve taught. After seeing many children over the years (more children than most non-educator parents will ever know) it’s been stark how asynchronous development is —intellectual, physical, and emotional. Periodic regressions are also quite real. If I see a behavior problem in the classroom, the first thing I do is check the birthdate to see if the child is young for his or her grade. After seeing how difficult things can be for these younger kids (more frequently discipline, trouble with abstract concepts), I’ve recommended to anyone I know well that they redshirt when possible.

My MIL was a preschool teacher and my aunt is a K teacher. Both recommended we redshirt our DS with a July bday. With the likely chance that a lot of next year will be some mix of DL, we are sending him for another year of pre-K.

Since you think that your son truly belongs in the grade behind, this means that you're not going to enroll him in any competitions such as valedictorian or class president, right?

You are not making a strong case for the intelligence of DCUM's anti-redshirt posters.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve taught. After seeing many children over the years (more children than most non-educator parents will ever know) it’s been stark how asynchronous development is —intellectual, physical, and emotional. Periodic regressions are also quite real. If I see a behavior problem in the classroom, the first thing I do is check the birthdate to see if the child is young for his or her grade. After seeing how difficult things can be for these younger kids (more frequently discipline, trouble with abstract concepts), I’ve recommended to anyone I know well that they redshirt when possible.

My MIL was a preschool teacher and my aunt is a K teacher. Both recommended we redshirt our DS with a July bday. With the likely chance that a lot of next year will be some mix of DL, we are sending him for another year of pre-K.

Since you think that your son truly belongs in the grade behind, this means that you're not going to enroll him in any competitions such as valedictorian or class president, right?

You are not making a strong case for the intelligence of DCUM's anti-redshirt posters.

LOL, I hope that was a clever joke. If not, OP is truly an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:I have three kids born in ten months — a girl in November and twins in September. I had the boys do preschool twice to put some space in between them and their sister; I didn’t want them all in the same grade. They probably would've been fine going “on time” but I’m glad I did it this way. Academically and socially they are right on track and they are doing well. *shrug*

Damn.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve taught. After seeing many children over the years (more children than most non-educator parents will ever know) it’s been stark how asynchronous development is —intellectual, physical, and emotional. Periodic regressions are also quite real. If I see a behavior problem in the classroom, the first thing I do is check the birthdate to see if the child is young for his or her grade. After seeing how difficult things can be for these younger kids (more frequently discipline, trouble with abstract concepts), I’ve recommended to anyone I know well that they redshirt when possible.

My MIL was a preschool teacher and my aunt is a K teacher. Both recommended we redshirt our DS with a July bday. With the likely chance that a lot of next year will be some mix of DL, we are sending him for another year of pre-K.

Since you think that your son truly belongs in the grade behind, this means that you're not going to enroll him in any competitions such as valedictorian or class president, right?

You are not making a strong case for the intelligence of DCUM's anti-redshirt posters.

LOL, I hope that was a clever joke. If not, OP is truly an idiot.

It was not a joke. Unfortunately.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve taught. After seeing many children over the years (more children than most non-educator parents will ever know) it’s been stark how asynchronous development is —intellectual, physical, and emotional. Periodic regressions are also quite real. If I see a behavior problem in the classroom, the first thing I do is check the birthdate to see if the child is young for his or her grade. After seeing how difficult things can be for these younger kids (more frequently discipline, trouble with abstract concepts), I’ve recommended to anyone I know well that they redshirt when possible.

My MIL was a preschool teacher and my aunt is a K teacher. Both recommended we redshirt our DS with a July bday. With the likely chance that a lot of next year will be some mix of DL, we are sending him for another year of pre-K.

Since you think that your son truly belongs in the grade behind, this means that you're not going to enroll him in any competitions such as valedictorian or class president, right?

How do you enroll someone to be valedictorian?