Glennon Doyle

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think she’s extremely self-absorbed and clueless. I feel for her wife - Abby seems to have low self esteem and lets Glennon sh!T all over her.

On that podcast, Abby came off as being in enabler mode.The whole podcast episode was disturbing. It was a good podcast when it started years ago. Time to shut it down and get G some serious help.

[Anonymous]

I stopped listening a while back, but something started to bother me where G and “sister” portrayed a super close relationship with their parents, but then talk about all of their childhood trauma. Like what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am listening righy now. I say this as someone who has gone on and off anti depressants. She is saying that she went off hers ans I think she needs to go back on

I listen to her podcast maybe once every 6 months just to remind myself how annoying it is. I listened to the episode about going off her meds and I was so disgusted by how she makes Abby’s tragedy all about herself and her own reaction. Ugh, the worst!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think people are tired of her brand of cutesy-tortured. With someone of her level of privilege, it starts to become draining. Sure, the tea of a broken marriage and lesbian romance with a super athlete is compelling, but after years of fame and success and still struggling with demons? We’ve all got our own demons to deal with, plus bills to pay. Her audience is getting smaller.

I've often thought that as soon as her life starts to resemble anything similar to the normal life most of us live, all of a sudden she brings forth another major revelation that's earth-shattering (divorce, remarriage, moving the entire family including Craig across the country, then a "surprise" anorexia diagnosis, then she's going off meds, etc.) Like an overriding fear of anything ordinary. I also think at the core she is addicted to fame and relevance, to go along with the control issues that have been evident for decades.

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Anonymous wrote:I am listening righy now. I say this as someone who has gone on and off anti depressants. She is saying that she went off hers ans I think she needs to go back on

I listen to her podcast maybe once every 6 months just to remind myself how annoying it is. I listened to the episode about going off her meds and I was so disgusted by how she makes Abby’s tragedy all about herself and her own reaction. Ugh, the worst!

What was Abby's tragedy? (not sure I'm up for listening myself....)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am listening righy now. I say this as someone who has gone on and off anti depressants. She is saying that she went off hers ans I think she needs to go back on

I listen to her podcast maybe once every 6 months just to remind myself how annoying it is. I listened to the episode about going off her meds and I was so disgusted by how she makes Abby’s tragedy all about herself and her own reaction. Ugh, the worst!

What was Abby's tragedy? (not sure I'm up for listening myself....)

Her brother’s death.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am listening righy now. I say this as someone who has gone on and off anti depressants. She is saying that she went off hers ans I think she needs to go back on

I listen to her podcast maybe once every 6 months just to remind myself how annoying it is. I listened to the episode about going off her meds and I was so disgusted by how she makes Abby’s tragedy all about herself and her own reaction. Ugh, the worst!

What was Abby's tragedy? (not sure I'm up for listening myself....)

Her brother’s death.

Here’s the transcript if you don’t want to listen.
https://momastery.com/blog/we-can-do-hard-things-ep-315/

[Anonymous]

I started listening to the Control episode. Halfway through. I actually don't have any problem with it.

It does remind me once of attending an event for WOC cancer survivors and they were talking about needing more diverse support groups, and there was a comment from someone saying, "why do white women have so many problems?!" I think it's that some types of people are hyperaware of their thought and emotional processes and are also in a place of privilege to be able to spend time dissecting those, rather than say facing overt racism from the outside world or struggling to make ends meet. Glennon talks like someone who is privileged and who has been to lots and lots of therapy.

My thought process is kind of similar to Glennon's (though way less extreme) and I'm in a hostile coparenting situation with kids getting older. And I've definitely started to grieve the loss of perceived control over my family. But I also had super rigid parents and know it's unhealthy and more damaging to be super rigid, so I need to let go more as they get older.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so confused why people consider her so wise. I have admittedly not read her books but I've heard so many interviews and I find her sort of uninteresting. Which surprises me, because I often like this … um genre? I just don't get any a ha from her and while I do appreciate her honesty about being on an ongoing journey, I get the impression she's pretty troubled.

Yes and yes!! She’s just awful. I love this genre and cut “these people” a lot of slack because of the positivity and help they give but she seems very troubled and problematic on many levels.

On the other hand, there is a really creepy Instagrammer named Angie Green, who stole her “We can do her hard things” mantra and uses it on all sorts of merchandise that she shills, along with her raw placenta, red light therapy vibrators, and other assorted creepy woo woo merch, and I find that weird as heck as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I think she’s extremely self-absorbed and clueless. I feel for her wife - Abby seems to have low self esteem and lets Glennon sh!T all over her.

On that podcast, Abby came off as being in enabler mode.The whole podcast episode was disturbing. It was a good podcast when it started years ago. Time to shut it down and get G some serious help.

There have been many such podcast episodes, some worse than others.

The other thing that really gets me is this - Abby's soccer career - her experiences, insights, reflections, opinions, etc, are frequently devalued by Glennon, who has, to absolutely NO ONE's surprise, made it ALL about Glennon and her stupid "the soccer" commentary. Glennon even - for some inexplicable reason - appeared alongside Abby on Tobin and Christen's RE/cap podcast recently because Glennon cannot just let Abby go share her unique and well-earned insights ABOUT SOCCER without hovering nearby and basking in Abby's fame & success. Control, devaluation, manipulation, fits of rage, sabatoging big moments, making it all about Glennon, etc. It is classic narcissism and yet no one seems to see it for what it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think she’s extremely self-absorbed and clueless. I feel for her wife - Abby seems to have low self esteem and lets Glennon sh!T all over her.

On that podcast, Abby came off as being in enabler mode.The whole podcast episode was disturbing. It was a good podcast when it started years ago. Time to shut it down and get G some serious help.

There have been many such podcast episodes, some worse than others.

The other thing that really gets me is this - Abby's soccer career - her experiences, insights, reflections, opinions, etc, are frequently devalued by Glennon, who has, to absolutely NO ONE's surprise, made it ALL about Glennon and her stupid "the soccer" commentary. Glennon even - for some inexplicable reason - appeared alongside Abby on Tobin and Christen's RE/cap podcast recently because Glennon cannot just let Abby go share her unique and well-earned insights ABOUT SOCCER without hovering nearby and basking in Abby's fame & success. Control, devaluation, manipulation, fits of rage, sabatoging big moments, making it all about Glennon, etc. It is classic narcissism and yet no one seems to see it for what it is.

DP. I’ve only listed to a handful of podcast episodes, but I find Abby’s thoughts about soccer to be the only interesting, completely genuine tidbits. And I don’t even like soccer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think she’s extremely self-absorbed and clueless. I feel for her wife - Abby seems to have low self esteem and lets Glennon sh!T all over her.

On that podcast, Abby came off as being in enabler mode.The whole podcast episode was disturbing. It was a good podcast when it started years ago. Time to shut it down and get G some serious help.

There have been many such podcast episodes, some worse than others.

The other thing that really gets me is this - Abby's soccer career - her experiences, insights, reflections, opinions, etc, are frequently devalued by Glennon, who has, to absolutely NO ONE's surprise, made it ALL about Glennon and her stupid "the soccer" commentary. Glennon even - for some inexplicable reason - appeared alongside Abby on Tobin and Christen's RE/cap podcast recently because Glennon cannot just let Abby go share her unique and well-earned insights ABOUT SOCCER without hovering nearby and basking in Abby's fame & success. Control, devaluation, manipulation, fits of rage, sabatoging big moments, making it all about Glennon, etc. It is classic narcissism and yet no one seems to see it for what it is.

DP. I’ve only listed to a handful of podcast episodes, but I find Abby’s thoughts about soccer to be the only interesting, completely genuine tidbits. And I don’t even like soccer.

I found it really interesting that Abby and Glennon only released a quick IG story a few days after Alex Morgan's retirement game linking to their podcast episode with her. Same link, same day.

Considering the depth of the friendship and relationship between Abby and Alex from their UWSNT years together, this struck me as so strange, and at the same time, such a prime and unsurprising example of the control Glennon exerts over Abby. So many other active and retired UWSNT players posted touching tributes, talked about AM on their podcasts, etc and all Abby has posted is a quick link that directs people to rewatch the WCDHT podcast episode with AM!!!!!

[Anonymous]

My prediction: Abby's savior complex will wane with Glennon, although she does need a lot of saving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My prediction: Abby's savior complex will wane with Glennon, although she does need a lot of saving.

Yes, and then Glennon can make Abby the new Craig. What could she call her next over-sharing book....Love Warrior 2 or perhaps... Unhinged?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I stopped listening a while back, but something started to bother me where G and “sister” portrayed a super close relationship with their parents, but then talk about all of their childhood trauma. Like what?

I wonder about that too. They only thing I recall them complaining about is maybe the pressure to be thin, which many of us faced and some parents were definitely worse than others about it. I wonder what crossed from dysfunctional parenting into trauma. Maybe it had nothing to do with the parents or maybe they use the word "trauma" more loosely.