Why don't people want to go to tj just because there are "too many" asians?

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

You’re too naive. They’re not really interested in the TJ-like opportunities at all. Their only intention is to dumb down the whole population.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

It's commonly reported that the teachers at TJ are no more qualified, and in some cases less qualified, than those at other schools. As for the budgetary considerations, you are basically arguing certain kids are more deserving of extra resources than others; when those kids are increasingly just upper middle-class Asians, it's very much at odds with the notion of a public school system in a democratic country. Let them send their kids to St. Albans or Madeira if they want more than what other kids in the public schools receive.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

It's commonly reported that the teachers at TJ are no more qualified, and in some cases less qualified, than those at other schools. As for the budgetary considerations, you are basically arguing certain kids are more deserving of extra resources than others; when those kids are increasingly just upper middle-class Asians, it's very much at odds with the notion of a public school system in a democratic country. Let them send their kids to St. Albans or Madeira if they want more than what other kids in the public schools receive.

You do understand that it is a Virginia state law that students deemed "gifted" must be provided with gifted education? How the counties go about doing that is their decision, but the choices do not include refusal to provide any gifted education any expecting the kids in that group to go to St. Albans or Madeira.

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Isn’t the top Ap track at Langley and McLean +Chantilly, Oakton, Madison, Marshall, very challenging? Why isn’t that good enough for most TJ kids

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

It's commonly reported that the teachers at TJ are no more qualified, and in some cases less qualified, than those at other schools. As for the budgetary considerations, you are basically arguing certain kids are more deserving of extra resources than others; when those kids are increasingly just upper middle-class Asians, it's very much at odds with the notion of a public school system in a democratic country. Let them send their kids to St. Albans or Madeira if they want more than what other kids in the public schools receive.

You do understand that it is a Virginia state law that students deemed "gifted" must be provided with gifted education? How the counties go about doing that is their decision, but the choices do not include refusal to provide any gifted education any expecting the kids in that group to go to St. Albans or Madeira.

Straw-man response. Obviously the Virginia state requirements can, and most frequently are, be satisfied without paying for buses to transport kids who often live a considerable distance to stand-alone magnets like TJ. But, if you are unwilling to receive services at your base schools and think your kids (but not others) deserve their own school with more resources and space per student than other county students enjoy, that's clearly discrimination against non-TJ students and perhaps you should explore private options.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

It's commonly reported that the teachers at TJ are no more qualified, and in some cases less qualified, than those at other schools. As for the budgetary considerations, you are basically arguing certain kids are more deserving of extra resources than others; when those kids are increasingly just upper middle-class Asians, it's very much at odds with the notion of a public school system in a democratic country. Let them send their kids to St. Albans or Madeira if they want more than what other kids in the public schools receive.

You do understand that it is a Virginia state law that students deemed "gifted" must be provided with gifted education? How the counties go about doing that is their decision, but the choices do not include refusal to provide any gifted education any expecting the kids in that group to go to St. Albans or Madeira.

Straw-man response. Obviously the Virginia state requirements can, and most frequently are, be satisfied without paying for buses to transport kids who often live a considerable distance to stand-alone magnets like TJ. But, if you are unwilling to receive services at your base schools and think your kids (but not others) deserve their own school with more resources and space per student than other county students enjoy, that's clearly discrimination against non-TJ students and perhaps you should explore private options.

I'd have no problem receiving a TJ like education at my base school, in fact I'd prefer that for my kids so they and I would never have to go through hell commutes. But the problem as I said earlier is that the base school resources are lacking... if FCPS can actually find the right teachers to teach a challenging curriculum that is not the watered down AP version, for many of the classes, esp. the math/science classes, I'd be all for it. But you won't find the TJ curriculum at the base schools, because it doesn't exist, unless FCPS invested the money in the right teachers to be able to replicate it (and I'm not even including research labs in this, having the right teachers is just the bare minimum).

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the top Ap track at Langley and McLean +Chantilly, Oakton, Madison, Marshall, very challenging? Why isn’t that good enough for most TJ kids

Very far from it. The top track at all the base schools is just regular AP, where many (perhaps most) of the courses are watered down memorization/regurgitation classes. It's nothing like what kids receive at TJ. In fact many of the interesting math and science courses (the so called post AP classes/advanced electives), the ones that kids take their junior/senior years, DO NOT EXIST at any of the other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

It's commonly reported that the teachers at TJ are no more qualified, and in some cases less qualified, than those at other schools. As for the budgetary considerations, you are basically arguing certain kids are more deserving of extra resources than others; when those kids are increasingly just upper middle-class Asians, it's very much at odds with the notion of a public school system in a democratic country. Let them send their kids to St. Albans or Madeira if they want more than what other kids in the public schools receive.

Is that your convenient personal assumption? Let's see... do you think there are many teachers at our base schools who can teach the below TJ courses?

Probability Theory
Advanced Mathematical Techniques
Discrete Mathematics
Complex Variables
Differential Equations
Bioinformatics
Bionanotechnology
Advanced Astronomy
Advanced Marine Biology
Computational Physics
DNA Science 1
DNA Science 2
Geospatial Analysis
Geosystems
Intro to Optical Systems & Phenomen
Organic Chemistry
Neurobiology
Quantum Mechanics
Advanced Microprocessor System Design
Advanced Analog Electronics
Advanced Digital Electronics
Architectural Drawing & Design
Audio Electronics
Automation & Robotics
Artificial Intelligence
Computer Vision
Machine Learning
Mobile Application Development

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

It's commonly reported that the teachers at TJ are no more qualified, and in some cases less qualified, than those at other schools. As for the budgetary considerations, you are basically arguing certain kids are more deserving of extra resources than others; when those kids are increasingly just upper middle-class Asians, it's very much at odds with the notion of a public school system in a democratic country. Let them send their kids to St. Albans or Madeira if they want more than what other kids in the public schools receive.

You do understand that it is a Virginia state law that students deemed "gifted" must be provided with gifted education? How the counties go about doing that is their decision, but the choices do not include refusal to provide any gifted education any expecting the kids in that group to go to St. Albans or Madeira.

Straw-man response. Obviously the Virginia state requirements can, and most frequently are, be satisfied without paying for buses to transport kids who often live a considerable distance to stand-alone magnets like TJ. But, if you are unwilling to receive services at your base schools and think your kids (but not others) deserve their own school with more resources and space per student than other county students enjoy, that's clearly discrimination against non-TJ students and perhaps you should explore private options.

I'd have no problem receiving a TJ like education at my base school, in fact I'd prefer that for my kids so they and I would never have to go through hell commutes. But the problem as I said earlier is that the base school resources are lacking... if FCPS can actually find the right teachers to teach a challenging curriculum that is not the watered down AP version, for many of the classes, esp. the math/science classes, I'd be all for it. But you won't find the TJ curriculum at the base schools, because it doesn't exist, unless FCPS invested the money in the right teachers to be able to replicate it (and I'm not even including research labs in this, having the right teachers is just the bare minimum).

Why do people like you have so little self-awareness about the fact that you are claiming a right to resources for your public school children that are not available to others? And lying constantly to justify your position?

I hope the School Board starts to look at the glaring inequality within FCPS at every level, including TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the top Ap track at Langley and McLean +Chantilly, Oakton, Madison, Marshall, very challenging? Why isn’t that good enough for most TJ kids

Very far from it. The top track at all the base schools is just regular AP, where many (perhaps most) of the courses are watered down memorization/regurgitation classes. It's nothing like what kids receive at TJ. In fact many of the interesting math and science courses (the so called post AP classes/advanced electives), the ones that kids take their junior/senior years, DO NOT EXIST at any of the other schools.

The bolded statement is false. And, if the remainder of this post is true, it only underscores what a charade FCPS has become. If they are required to provide services to gifted students K-12, then how can they defend denying access to "interesting math and science courses" to most students while serving them up on a platter to TJ students. And if they care about equity one bit, they wouldn't accept their "separate but not equal" academy in Alexandria.

TJ is an abomination, created as a PR stunt and sustained by racist parents who use every trick in the book to claim their kids "need" TJ while turning their backs on - and actively disparaging - over 95% of the county's students.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

It's commonly reported that the teachers at TJ are no more qualified, and in some cases less qualified, than those at other schools. As for the budgetary considerations, you are basically arguing certain kids are more deserving of extra resources than others; when those kids are increasingly just upper middle-class Asians, it's very much at odds with the notion of a public school system in a democratic country. Let them send their kids to St. Albans or Madeira if they want more than what other kids in the public schools receive.

You do understand that it is a Virginia state law that students deemed "gifted" must be provided with gifted education? How the counties go about doing that is their decision, but the choices do not include refusal to provide any gifted education any expecting the kids in that group to go to St. Albans or Madeira.

Straw-man response. Obviously the Virginia state requirements can, and most frequently are, be satisfied without paying for buses to transport kids who often live a considerable distance to stand-alone magnets like TJ. But, if you are unwilling to receive services at your base schools and think your kids (but not others) deserve their own school with more resources and space per student than other county students enjoy, that's clearly discrimination against non-TJ students and perhaps you should explore private options.

I'd have no problem receiving a TJ like education at my base school, in fact I'd prefer that for my kids so they and I would never have to go through hell commutes. But the problem as I said earlier is that the base school resources are lacking... if FCPS can actually find the right teachers to teach a challenging curriculum that is not the watered down AP version, for many of the classes, esp. the math/science classes, I'd be all for it. But you won't find the TJ curriculum at the base schools, because it doesn't exist, unless FCPS invested the money in the right teachers to be able to replicate it (and I'm not even including research labs in this, having the right teachers is just the bare minimum).

Why do people like you have so little self-awareness about the fact that you are claiming a right to resources for your public school children that are not available to others? And lying constantly to justify your position?

I hope the School Board starts to look at the glaring inequality within FCPS at every level, including TJ.

Wow you're pretty thickheaded. I'm not claiming a right, other than a right to education. I just stated that it would be lovely to have the same type of TJ resources at every base school so that ANY qualified student at each base school can be part of it if they can meet the prerequisites. In fact that's the exact opposite of having a concentrated school like TJ, which is what you apparently take issue with. But obviously that is not economically feasible as I already explained to you, yet you still seem to be lost. As to "lying" I have no clue what you're referring to. What is apparent is your clear agenda toward dumbing down of education, which you try to mask by pretending to care about minorities by spouting "no kids should get these opportunities because others will be held back" but keep lying to yourself.

In any case TJ will not go away, certainly not until you make a more coherent case for what you think is inequitable about it and find an option that replaces it which actually makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

It's commonly reported that the teachers at TJ are no more qualified, and in some cases less qualified, than those at other schools. As for the budgetary considerations, you are basically arguing certain kids are more deserving of extra resources than others; when those kids are increasingly just upper middle-class Asians, it's very much at odds with the notion of a public school system in a democratic country. Let them send their kids to St. Albans or Madeira if they want more than what other kids in the public schools receive.

You do understand that it is a Virginia state law that students deemed "gifted" must be provided with gifted education? How the counties go about doing that is their decision, but the choices do not include refusal to provide any gifted education any expecting the kids in that group to go to St. Albans or Madeira.

Straw-man response. Obviously the Virginia state requirements can, and most frequently are, be satisfied without paying for buses to transport kids who often live a considerable distance to stand-alone magnets like TJ. But, if you are unwilling to receive services at your base schools and think your kids (but not others) deserve their own school with more resources and space per student than other county students enjoy, that's clearly discrimination against non-TJ students and perhaps you should explore private options.

I'd have no problem receiving a TJ like education at my base school, in fact I'd prefer that for my kids so they and I would never have to go through hell commutes. But the problem as I said earlier is that the base school resources are lacking... if FCPS can actually find the right teachers to teach a challenging curriculum that is not the watered down AP version, for many of the classes, esp. the math/science classes, I'd be all for it. But you won't find the TJ curriculum at the base schools, because it doesn't exist, unless FCPS invested the money in the right teachers to be able to replicate it (and I'm not even including research labs in this, having the right teachers is just the bare minimum).

Why do people like you have so little self-awareness about the fact that you are claiming a right to resources for your public school children that are not available to others? And lying constantly to justify your position?

I hope the School Board starts to look at the glaring inequality within FCPS at every level, including TJ.

Wow you're pretty thickheaded. I'm not claiming a right, other than a right to education. I just stated that it would be lovely to have the same type of TJ resources at every base school so that ANY qualified student at each base school can be part of it if they can meet the prerequisites. In fact that's the exact opposite of having a concentrated school like TJ, which is what you apparently take issue with. But obviously that is not economically feasible as I already explained to you, yet you still seem to be lost. As to "lying" I have no clue what you're referring to. What is apparent is your clear agenda toward dumbing down of education, which you try to mask by pretending to care about minorities by spouting "no kids should get these opportunities because others will be held back" but keep lying to yourself.

In any case TJ will not go away, certainly not until you make a more coherent case for what you think is inequitable about it and find an option that replaces it which actually makes sense.

Your argument has already been exposed and rebutted multiple times: It's too bad we don't have enough resources, but since we don't we certainly can't allocate them equitably. Because gifted.

And when someone points that out, the response of the racist TJ crowd is to revert to (1) claiming people want to dumb down education; and (2) crapping on other schools.

I think you know there are other, better options to this bastion of segregation. Other school systems look at FCPS and cringe at what it's done. It's actually the case study for what every other good system in the DC area tries to avoid.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey, parents of non-Asians: You want your kid to be able to compete with the Tiger mom-influenced strivers who get into TJ? Then get you kids off their asses, away from their screens and MAKE THEM STUDY! All the better if they're naturally gifted in math and science.

Magnet schools are a privilege, not a right and the ones who work hard are the ones who get rewarded with a challenging, excellent education.

Parents of non-Asians increasingly do not want to send their kids to TJ, not because they're on their asses and screens, but because they're on the ballfields or the stage - and they correctly understand that in order to have the best chance to get into TJ, they will have to give those passions up (which have incredible value both inside and outside the classroom) to maximize their test prep and STEM activities.

I want non-Asians to recognize that the PP Asian does not represent all Asian, but this is how you perceive all Asians, and the PP just confirms your perception. But, remember, that is one person. We have to stop stereotyping people.

The arguments and stereotypes on this thread clearly show that more TJ's need to be built. Then we would not have all these negative comments like outrage, jealously, racism, etc, since there would be enough space to accomodate all who apply and are qualified.

We already have the schools. We are simply providing unique opportunities at one of them, to the detriment of others.

Agreed, we have the physical buildings, but not many teachers that can teach beyond the AP or offer the same level of intellectual stimulation found at TJ. If FCPS were to actually hire (and compensate) qualified teachers at all local schools, obviously there would not be a need for TJ, but it also wouldn't make financial sense. Clearly there's not enough of a budget to implement a magnet type of curriculum at every high school.

It's commonly reported that the teachers at TJ are no more qualified, and in some cases less qualified, than those at other schools. As for the budgetary considerations, you are basically arguing certain kids are more deserving of extra resources than others; when those kids are increasingly just upper middle-class Asians, it's very much at odds with the notion of a public school system in a democratic country. Let them send their kids to St. Albans or Madeira if they want more than what other kids in the public schools receive.

You do understand that it is a Virginia state law that students deemed "gifted" must be provided with gifted education? How the counties go about doing that is their decision, but the choices do not include refusal to provide any gifted education any expecting the kids in that group to go to St. Albans or Madeira.

Straw-man response. Obviously the Virginia state requirements can, and most frequently are, be satisfied without paying for buses to transport kids who often live a considerable distance to stand-alone magnets like TJ. But, if you are unwilling to receive services at your base schools and think your kids (but not others) deserve their own school with more resources and space per student than other county students enjoy, that's clearly discrimination against non-TJ students and perhaps you should explore private options.

I'd have no problem receiving a TJ like education at my base school, in fact I'd prefer that for my kids so they and I would never have to go through hell commutes. But the problem as I said earlier is that the base school resources are lacking... if FCPS can actually find the right teachers to teach a challenging curriculum that is not the watered down AP version, for many of the classes, esp. the math/science classes, I'd be all for it. But you won't find the TJ curriculum at the base schools, because it doesn't exist, unless FCPS invested the money in the right teachers to be able to replicate it (and I'm not even including research labs in this, having the right teachers is just the bare minimum).

Why do people like you have so little self-awareness about the fact that you are claiming a right to resources for your public school children that are not available to others? And lying constantly to justify your position?

I hope the School Board starts to look at the glaring inequality within FCPS at every level, including TJ.

Wow you're pretty thickheaded. I'm not claiming a right, other than a right to education. I just stated that it would be lovely to have the same type of TJ resources at every base school so that ANY qualified student at each base school can be part of it if they can meet the prerequisites. In fact that's the exact opposite of having a concentrated school like TJ, which is what you apparently take issue with. But obviously that is not economically feasible as I already explained to you, yet you still seem to be lost. As to "lying" I have no clue what you're referring to. What is apparent is your clear agenda toward dumbing down of education, which you try to mask by pretending to care about minorities by spouting "no kids should get these opportunities because others will be held back" but keep lying to yourself.

In any case TJ will not go away, certainly not until you make a more coherent case for what you think is inequitable about it and find an option that replaces it which actually makes sense.

Your argument has already been exposed and rebutted multiple times: It's too bad we don't have enough resources, but since we don't we certainly can't allocate them equitably. Because gifted.

And when someone points that out, the response of the racist TJ crowd is to revert to (1) claiming people want to dumb down education; and (2) crapping on other schools.

I think you know there are other, better options to this bastion of segregation. Other school systems look at FCPS and cringe at what it's done. It's actually the case study for what every other good system in the DC area tries to avoid.

+1000.