Family Beach House- DS and Friends Using it for Summer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhh, the old hanger-ons. We've had a house in Kitty Hawk for 34 years and I can't even count how many Alexandria 'friends' thought they and their kids could help themselves to our beach house. It's something special, OP. We found that you just need to cut them off. They are like leeches.

The best part about this thread is the people getting all puffed up about a house in . . . Kitty Hawk.

The best part about this thread is that your reading comprehension skillls are so piss poor that you think OP has ID'd the town the house is in.

She hasn't.

Kitty Hawk was brought up by another poster in reference to their experience of owning a house and the attention it draws from free loaders. She was commiserating with OP. Nobody praised Kitty Hawk.

And to be clear- Kitty Hawk 34 years ago (when that poster bought their house) was absolutely something to get 'puffed up' about. My family has been visiting the Outer Banks since the 50s and up until about 1995 it was idyllic. Ever since, it has been invaded by trash from Jersey and NY and it has been thoroughly ruined. We've stopped going all together.

Right. The PP is getting all shirty about Kitty Hawk. It's something special, you see. But actually, as you admit, it's trash.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really the same as renting “the carriage house”. The owners live in the main house and they rent the carriage house. Or English basement. Same deal.
I think the boys mother was extremely entitled to expect beach house room for free for the whole summer. Summer workers have bunked up like that forever. Also it’s got AC and free access to the main house and I’m sure the setting is beautiful. The other boy who looked saw it for what it was and said yes.
OP is well rid of this unhappy renter. Already calling names.

Carriage houses and English basements have plumbing. This is like renting an unattached garage with a window A/C unit.

The word youre looking for is "detached"

The word you're looking for is "you're" (and it outs you as OP, btw. She can't seem to get that one conjunction right).

Bless your heart. Missing an apostrophe is a typo. "Unattached garage" is a made up term. And it's incorrect. And I love that it got under your skin to have it pointed out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really the same as renting “the carriage house”. The owners live in the main house and they rent the carriage house. Or English basement. Same deal.
I think the boys mother was extremely entitled to expect beach house room for free for the whole summer. Summer workers have bunked up like that forever. Also it’s got AC and free access to the main house and I’m sure the setting is beautiful. The other boy who looked saw it for what it was and said yes.
OP is well rid of this unhappy renter. Already calling names.

Carriage houses and English basements have plumbing. This is like renting an unattached garage with a window A/C unit.

The word youre looking for is "detached"

The word you're looking for is "you're" (and it outs you as OP, btw. She can't seem to get that one conjunction right).

Bless your heart. Missing an apostrophe is a typo. "Unattached garage" is a made up term. And it's incorrect. And I love that it got under your skin to have it pointed out.

It's not under my skin, but it's probably the sixth time you've done it. And you don't make the same mistake with other conjunctions, which makes it idiosyncratic enough to stand out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhh, the old hanger-ons. We've had a house in Kitty Hawk for 34 years and I can't even count how many Alexandria 'friends' thought they and their kids could help themselves to our beach house. It's something special, OP. We found that you just need to cut them off. They are like leeches.

The best part about this thread is the people getting all puffed up about a house in . . . Kitty Hawk.

The best part about this thread is that your reading comprehension skillls are so piss poor that you think OP has ID'd the town the house is in.

She hasn't.

Kitty Hawk was brought up by another poster in reference to their experience of owning a house and the attention it draws from free loaders. She was commiserating with OP. Nobody praised Kitty Hawk.

And to be clear- Kitty Hawk 34 years ago (when that poster bought their house) was absolutely something to get 'puffed up' about. My family has been visiting the Outer Banks since the 50s and up until about 1995 it was idyllic. Ever since, it has been invaded by trash from Jersey and NY and it has been thoroughly ruined. We've stopped going all together.

Right. The PP is getting all shirty about Kitty Hawk. It's something special, you see. But actually, as you admit, it's trash.

Are you doubling down on your poor reading skills? PP said it used to be special. PP never claimed it was currently special. The only poster claiming people claimed that is you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s really the same as renting “the carriage house”. The owners live in the main house and they rent the carriage house. Or English basement. Same deal.
I think the boys mother was extremely entitled to expect beach house room for free for the whole summer. Summer workers have bunked up like that forever. Also it’s got AC and free access to the main house and I’m sure the setting is beautiful. The other boy who looked saw it for what it was and said yes.
OP is well rid of this unhappy renter. Already calling names.

Carriage houses and English basements have plumbing. This is like renting an unattached garage with a window A/C unit.

The word youre looking for is "detached"

The word you're looking for is "you're" (and it outs you as OP, btw. She can't seem to get that one conjunction right).

Bless your heart. Missing an apostrophe is a typo. "Unattached garage" is a made up term. And it's incorrect. And I love that it got under your skin to have it pointed out.

It's not under my skin, but it's probably the sixth time you've done it. And you don't make the same mistake with other conjunctions, which makes it idiosyncratic enough to stand out.

Well, I'm not OP and your reply failed to convince me I didn't get under your skin. In fact, it proved it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The friend wasn’t looking for a place to rent at the beach. He also wasn’t shopping around for 3 months of free accommodations. He was simply excited about being invited to live with his buddy at the beach for the summer. What makes the friend (or his mom) a freeloader if there was no mention of a lease and rental fees until after the invitation was accepted?

And don’t forget, the reason for inviting the friend wasn’t because the family wanted to rent out their glorified shed; it was because OP’s son didn’t want to spend the whole summer away from all of his friends. If one of my friends wanted me to rent crappy accommodations (that cost them almost nothing!) from them for several months just so that they’d have me around to entertain them, I wouldn’t feel like that was a great deal.

That’s a child’s view. Someone else should pay for my housing if they want to be my friend. If it doesn’t work for him just decline the offer. It’s asking a lot to be a guest for 3 months. Some people have enormous homes and lots of extra room and feel like entertaining a guest for months on end. That’s a very small group. That don’t have a tiny old cottage.

You must have grown up very poor or been raised by stingy people to be so worried about the nominal cost of having a friend use water and electricity for the summer. “I want a friend nearby, so please stay in the shed behind my beach house so I won’t be lonely. P.S. You’ll need to pay me.” There’s no way to spin that that doesn’t sound like a major social feau pas. Sure, the kid should definitely contribute something in exchange for staying on their property, but this was handled very poorly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

I withdrew the offer yesterday afternoon and another boy was offered the same deal. He and his parents accepted it immediately.

The first boy's mom sent me (and one of my BILs who'd been on the email thread) a long rambling email calling us "assholes" and then concluded by asking if he could actually take the deal. We said no.

Then she defriended me on FB. lol.

That's a load - didn't happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

I withdrew the offer yesterday afternoon and another boy was offered the same deal. He and his parents accepted it immediately.

The first boy's mom sent me (and one of my BILs who'd been on the email thread) a long rambling email calling us "assholes" and then concluded by asking if he could actually take the deal. We said no.

Then she defriended me on FB. lol.

That's a load - didn't happen.

I don’t believe that update either.

[Anonymous]

major social feau pas.

I literally lol'd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The friend wasn’t looking for a place to rent at the beach. He also wasn’t shopping around for 3 months of free accommodations. He was simply excited about being invited to live with his buddy at the beach for the summer. What makes the friend (or his mom) a freeloader if there was no mention of a lease and rental fees until after the invitation was accepted?

And don’t forget, the reason for inviting the friend wasn’t because the family wanted to rent out their glorified shed; it was because OP’s son didn’t want to spend the whole summer away from all of his friends. If one of my friends wanted me to rent crappy accommodations (that cost them almost nothing!) from them for several months just so that they’d have me around to entertain them, I wouldn’t feel like that was a great deal.

That’s a child’s view. Someone else should pay for my housing if they want to be my friend. If it doesn’t work for him just decline the offer. It’s asking a lot to be a guest for 3 months. Some people have enormous homes and lots of extra room and feel like entertaining a guest for months on end. That’s a very small group. That don’t have a tiny old cottage.

You must have grown up very poor or been raised by stingy people to be so worried about the nominal cost of having a friend use water and electricity for the summer. “I want a friend nearby, so please stay in the shed behind my beach house so I won’t be lonely. P.S. You’ll need to pay me.” There’s no way to spin that that doesn’t sound like a major social feau pas. Sure, the kid should definitely contribute something in exchange for staying on their property, but this was handled very poorly.

I agree. The sad thing is the son and friend are probably now embarrassed beyond belief. They may not find jobs and probably only p/t at that age.

Does this old house have smoke detectors, and fire extinguishers? Are the smoke detectors frequently checked? That would be my main concern if I allowed guests to use it from time to time.

[Anonymous]

If I’m doing someone a favor and they’re badmouthing me, I’m going to be inclined to stop.

In OP’s shoes I would definitely rescind the offer. Something along the lines of “I think we’re not on the same page about the beach house, so let’s agree that the boys find separate lodging.” Knowing that the boys mom is like this would stress me out about her son staying in the house - even if she reluctantly agreed to pay rent. Sometimes kids lose out when their parents are a$$holes.

This isn’t your problem, OP. Good for you for moving on and finding a different kid to share the house with your son and nephews.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

I withdrew the offer yesterday afternoon and another boy was offered the same deal. He and his parents accepted it immediately.

The first boy's mom sent me (and one of my BILs who'd been on the email thread) a long rambling email calling us "assholes" and then concluded by asking if he could actually take the deal. We said no.

Then she defriended me on FB. lol.

That's a load - didn't happen.

I don’t believe that update either.

She knows she messed up. I'd like to hear the real story but we won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The friend wasn’t looking for a place to rent at the beach. He also wasn’t shopping around for 3 months of free accommodations. He was simply excited about being invited to live with his buddy at the beach for the summer. What makes the friend (or his mom) a freeloader if there was no mention of a lease and rental fees until after the invitation was accepted?

And don’t forget, the reason for inviting the friend wasn’t because the family wanted to rent out their glorified shed; it was because OP’s son didn’t want to spend the whole summer away from all of his friends. If one of my friends wanted me to rent crappy accommodations (that cost them almost nothing!) from them for several months just so that they’d have me around to entertain them, I wouldn’t feel like that was a great deal.

That’s a child’s view. Someone else should pay for my housing if they want to be my friend. If it doesn’t work for him just decline the offer. It’s asking a lot to be a guest for 3 months. Some people have enormous homes and lots of extra room and feel like entertaining a guest for months on end. That’s a very small group. That don’t have a tiny old cottage.

You must have grown up very poor or been raised by stingy people to be so worried about the nominal cost of having a friend use water and electricity for the summer. “I want a friend nearby, so please stay in the shed behind my beach house so I won’t be lonely. P.S. You’ll need to pay me.” There’s no way to spin that that doesn’t sound like a major social feau pas. Sure, the kid should definitely contribute something in exchange for staying on their property, but this was handled very poorly.

I agree. The sad thing is the son and friend are probably now embarrassed beyond belief. They may not find jobs and probably only p/t at that age.

Does this old house have smoke detectors, and fire extinguishers? Are the smoke detectors frequently checked? That would be my main concern if I allowed guests to use it from time to time.

You're clueless. Beach towns actually import workers from Europe and South America to fill vacancies. There's an enormous shortage of seasonal workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The friend wasn’t looking for a place to rent at the beach. He also wasn’t shopping around for 3 months of free accommodations. He was simply excited about being invited to live with his buddy at the beach for the summer. What makes the friend (or his mom) a freeloader if there was no mention of a lease and rental fees until after the invitation was accepted?

And don’t forget, the reason for inviting the friend wasn’t because the family wanted to rent out their glorified shed; it was because OP’s son didn’t want to spend the whole summer away from all of his friends. If one of my friends wanted me to rent crappy accommodations (that cost them almost nothing!) from them for several months just so that they’d have me around to entertain them, I wouldn’t feel like that was a great deal.

That’s a child’s view. Someone else should pay for my housing if they want to be my friend. If it doesn’t work for him just decline the offer. It’s asking a lot to be a guest for 3 months. Some people have enormous homes and lots of extra room and feel like entertaining a guest for months on end. That’s a very small group. That don’t have a tiny old cottage.

You must have grown up very poor or been raised by stingy people to be so worried about the nominal cost of having a friend use water and electricity for the summer. “I want a friend nearby, so please stay in the shed behind my beach house so I won’t be lonely. P.S. You’ll need to pay me.” There’s no way to spin that that doesn’t sound like a major social feau pas. Sure, the kid should definitely contribute something in exchange for staying on their property, but this was handled very poorly.

I agree. The sad thing is the son and friend are probably now embarrassed beyond belief. They may not find jobs and probably only p/t at that age.

Does this old house have smoke detectors, and fire extinguishers? Are the smoke detectors frequently checked? That would be my main concern if I allowed guests to use it from time to time.

You're clueless. Beach towns actually import workers from Europe and South America to fill vacancies. There's an enormous shortage of seasonal workers.

No I'm not, but they are looking at this as their summer vacation. OP wants to charge rent to a kid who doesn't have a job, lol. And it's her son's friend who was invited. The invitation was accepted. Then they sprung the rent and lease on the mother after the fact. That's pretty crappy!!!

OP you're not even a owner. In the future let the owners deal with it, your communication is somewhat skewed imo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The friend wasn’t looking for a place to rent at the beach. He also wasn’t shopping around for 3 months of free accommodations. He was simply excited about being invited to live with his buddy at the beach for the summer. What makes the friend (or his mom) a freeloader if there was no mention of a lease and rental fees until after the invitation was accepted?

And don’t forget, the reason for inviting the friend wasn’t because the family wanted to rent out their glorified shed; it was because OP’s son didn’t want to spend the whole summer away from all of his friends. If one of my friends wanted me to rent crappy accommodations (that cost them almost nothing!) from them for several months just so that they’d have me around to entertain them, I wouldn’t feel like that was a great deal.

That’s a child’s view. Someone else should pay for my housing if they want to be my friend. If it doesn’t work for him just decline the offer. It’s asking a lot to be a guest for 3 months. Some people have enormous homes and lots of extra room and feel like entertaining a guest for months on end. That’s a very small group. That don’t have a tiny old cottage.

You must have grown up very poor or been raised by stingy people to be so worried about the nominal cost of having a friend use water and electricity for the summer. “I want a friend nearby, so please stay in the shed behind my beach house so I won’t be lonely. P.S. You’ll need to pay me.” There’s no way to spin that that doesn’t sound like a major social feau pas. Sure, the kid should definitely contribute something in exchange for staying on their property, but this was handled very poorly.

I agree. The sad thing is the son and friend are probably now embarrassed beyond belief. They may not find jobs and probably only p/t at that age.

Does this old house have smoke detectors, and fire extinguishers? Are the smoke detectors frequently checked? That would be my main concern if I allowed guests to use it from time to time.

You're clueless. Beach towns actually import workers from Europe and South America to fill vacancies. There's an enormous shortage of seasonal workers.

No I'm not, but they are looking at this as their summer vacation. OP wants to charge rent to a kid who doesn't have a job, lol. And it's her son's friend who was invited. The invitation was accepted. Then they sprung the rent and lease on the mother after the fact. That's pretty crappy!!!

OP you're not even a owner. In the future let the owners deal with it, your communication is somewhat skewed imo.

You are wrong and it has been pointed out a dozen times on this thread. The rent was not 'sprung' on him. And if he came at it from the POV that he was going to live there for free then he's a deadbeat that would not treat the house with respect anyway. Bullet dodged.

No one has said anything about employment. Maybe they had jobs lines up. Maybe they didn't. It doesn't matter because if you have a pulse you can have any job you want.