Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a pool association treasurer. We don't require advance permission to bring guests, even a lot of guests. We do charge per guest. And if you want to reserve half of the picnic pavilion for your party, you have to do that in advance.

We do reserve the right to ask anyone who is in violation of the rules to leave. Yes we would call the local cops if we asked someone to leave and they refused. Or at least, we would have in the past. Nowadays if the person is brown, no way I'm making that phone call.

What do you do if 30 people show up at a time when there is no lifeguard on duty? Are you okay with that many people around a pool with no lifeguards?

What if an injury occurred and your HOA were sued for allowing so many people around the pool with no lifeguards? Does your HOA have the funds to handle a lawsuit like that?

There is always a life guard on duty if the pool is open.

The pool has a max capacity and if max capacity were to be reached, no one else would be allowed in.

The members of the association own the property.

So you always staff the pool for the maximum capacity? Your HOA must have a lot of money.

My HOA staffs according to how many people are expected at particular times, with one or two on standby if needed. We would need to know in advance if a 30 person party was being held, especially one with a lot of children. We would have more lifeguards scheduled for that time, especially since people at a party will act differently than people who are just at the pool in smaller groups.

So you just don't have enough lifeguards. There is no way to know how many owners are coming on a given day. You have no procedures in place for a lifeguard to call in another when you reach a certain amount of people.

Wow! You suck as an HOA. You need better processes and procedures.

Who are you talking to here? The second PP describes the typical way pools are run. They don’t have every lifeguard on duty every second the pool is open. They generally know the busier and less busy times and staff accordingly. They also watch the weather and have more staff scheduled on hotter days. My pool has a lot of high school and college age guards who are willing to be on call and can come in on short notice.

And it is very typical to require advance notice of parties so they can add extra staff for the event, especially when there will be many children present. Most HOAs have safety very high on their list of priorities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These posters keeping this thread alive are serious losers just looking for something to be angry about.

Do you seriously care about the HOA policies of a building that a) you don't live in and b) is not relevant to the case at hand?

The HOA policies are very relevant and are the reason for the case at hand. There would be no case if the HOA policies had been followed in the first place, by notifying whoever is in charge that an owner wished to have a party with 30 people. Had that been done, the lady with the phone would have been told, “we have a permit,” and she would have said, “okay, bye, have fun.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These posters keeping this thread alive are serious losers just looking for something to be angry about.

Do you seriously care about the HOA policies of a building that a) you don't live in and b) is not relevant to the case at hand?

The HOA policies are very relevant and are the reason for the case at hand. There would be no case if the HOA policies had been followed in the first place, by notifying whoever is in charge that an owner wished to have a party with 30 people. Had that been done, the lady with the phone would have been told, “we have a permit,” and she would have said, “okay, bye, have fun.”

You just made all of that up. ALL OF IT!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:These posters keeping this thread alive are serious losers just looking for something to be angry about.

Do you seriously care about the HOA policies of a building that a) you don't live in and b) is not relevant to the case at hand?

The HOA policies are very relevant and are the reason for the case at hand. There would be no case if the HOA policies had been followed in the first place, by notifying whoever is in charge that an owner wished to have a party with 30 people. Had that been done, the lady with the phone would have been told, “we have a permit,” and she would have said, “okay, bye, have fun.”

You just made all of that up. ALL OF IT!!

How would there have been a case if the owners had had permission for a 30 person party in the first place? If they had had permission for the party, there would have been no reason to ask them to leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posters keeping this thread alive are serious losers just looking for something to be angry about.

Do you seriously care about the HOA policies of a building that a) you don't live in and b) is not relevant to the case at hand?

The HOA policies are very relevant and are the reason for the case at hand. There would be no case if the HOA policies had been followed in the first place, by notifying whoever is in charge that an owner wished to have a party with 30 people. Had that been done, the lady with the phone would have been told, “we have a permit,” and she would have said, “okay, bye, have fun.”

You just made all of that up. ALL OF IT!!

How would there have been a case if the owners had had permission for a 30 person party in the first place? If they had had permission for the party, there would have been no reason to ask them to leave.

There could have been 6 people or 600, you have no idea. People confront people about stuff they are allowed to do/ IT HAPPENS ALL THE Time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These posters keeping this thread alive are serious losers just looking for something to be angry about.

Do you seriously care about the HOA policies of a building that a) you don't live in and b) is not relevant to the case at hand?

The HOA policies are very relevant and are the reason for the case at hand. There would be no case if the HOA policies had been followed in the first place, by notifying whoever is in charge that an owner wished to have a party with 30 people. Had that been done, the lady with the phone would have been told, “we have a permit,” and she would have said, “okay, bye, have fun.”

If the crazy lady on the phone had evidence that the person was breaking a HOA rule she would have provided it.

Since she was just being racist she didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Treasurer here. I have only been on the pool board for one summer. Not aware of any calls to the police this year.

We always staff for a typical day ie is it a Wednesday? Or a Saturday?

So never is your answer. You have never called the cops. Have you ever had to ask a group to leave?

Ill answer that for you... no. Never.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ps, we have never had a problem with exceeded capacity. And we contract the pool management and lifeguards out; they don’t care if you are happy or unhappy as an individual. They will close the pool if they think warranted. Ie weather or other risk.

This is typical... 10 extra kids are never a problem. The pool can handle the influx. The crazy lady just didn't want brown kids at her pool.

[Anonymous]

You all are nuts. You just create facts that do not exist. There were NOT 30 people at the pool. Some random poster here just said that and you all ran with it which is insane.

[Anonymous]

This is why I don’t go to the pool in our building. Everyone uses it as there personal amenity. Lots of uppity white womenswear having birthday parties for their 4 year old where the moms drink & the kids nearly drown. Then you’ve got the folks who bring their coworkers from the bar. Or every visiting relative.
This is why we can’t have/share nice things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all are nuts. You just create facts that do not exist. There were NOT 30 people at the pool. Some random poster here just said that and you all ran with it which is insane.

So there were ten kids in the picture. Were none of them with adults? Or were the only adults there the two owners in the video who were throwing the party?

And it would be very easy for me to access my HOA’s pool rules on my phone. I’m surprised this condo association doesn’t have a web site with the rules for the pool posted there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why I don’t go to the pool in our building. Everyone uses it as there personal amenity. Lots of uppity white womenswear having birthday parties for their 4 year old where the moms drink & the kids nearly drown. Then you’ve got the folks who bring their coworkers from the bar. Or every visiting relative.
This is why we can’t have/share nice things.

What? You don’t enjoy your vibrant community?

[Anonymous]

Oh hell no. I pay to belong to a pool that is a stretch for us financially. We are not going into debt for it- but it’s not cheap. And guess what- NONE of this crap happens.
You get what you pay for...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I don’t go to the pool in our building. Everyone uses it as there personal amenity. Lots of uppity white womenswear having birthday parties for their 4 year old where the moms drink & the kids nearly drown. Then you’ve got the folks who bring their coworkers from the bar. Or every visiting relative.
This is why we can’t have/share nice things.

What? You don’t enjoy your vibrant community?

This is a bit off-topic, but I once witnessed a -- white --- dude call the cops on a bunch of --white/Asian -- teens for kicking their soccer ball around on the public tennis court. The guy, apparently, wanted to use the court, and the kids were occupying it and getting in his way.
I was pretty surprised to see the police actually arrive and approach the kids. The kids didn't seem to be scared but they did vacate the court and went to throw their ball around at a nearby field.

So, I guess, yeah, people do call police for minor stuff like that.

[Anonymous]

We have no knowledge that there were 30 people there. Maybe there was 10.