Guests in the condo pool. Call the police?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The police should not be involved. Its up to the pool lifeguard to enforce the HOA policies regarding the pool. Not random people.

No, its up to the HOA, not life guards. Most life guards are teenagers and its not fair to put the responsibility on them. And, a lot of condos don't have lifeguards depending on the size of the pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the condo policy. But this is a civil dispute. Why are the police involved?

I’m going to guess these kids aren’t white.

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Yup, I’m right.

I see two kids in that photo that at first glance I would guess are white. Maybe they aren't "technically"...but my skin is a LOT darker than theirs and I identify as white (of mostly Irish descent.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the condo policy. But this is a civil dispute. Why are the police involved?

I’m going to guess these kids aren’t white.

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Yup, I’m right.

I try not to jump on the race thing, but without knowing which building this is or the size - how would the angry neighbor even know that those kids didn’t “belong” there? I also question her condo board status along with her mental health status.

NP. If you look carefully, it looks like there were 12 little kids. That’s a LOT for a condo. Most people who live in condos are relatively respectful of neighbors and wouldn’t invite more than a couple kids over at a time. Speaking of kids in the pool specifically, those kids needed adults there to be appropriately supervised, which would have added a lot of people to that count. Regardless of whether adults were there, it’s also an increased legal liability for the condo if everyone opens up the facilities to essentially a whole class full of kids at a time. No lifeguards. Not to mention the noise. Noise echoes around at condos because of all the concrete around.

And speaking as someone with 2 kids in the 4-6 year age range they’re talking about, it can be a real challenge with bathrooms at that age. Many of them still need help, so that’s a ton of wet feet walking around the place dripping everywhere, or they would do what kids that age often do an simply pee in the pool. That’s a pretty big problem for a condo pool. And hopefully none of them poop.

Just think about last time you were at a huge public pool that seemed a bit crowded. There were probably 12 kids there. Then think about that in your condo pool. The fact that the inviting person thought the whole thing was NBD makes me think they maybe do similar entitled things at other times too. Pretty disrespectful when you live in such a tight communal area. If you want a class party, hire a venue for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the condo policy. But this is a civil dispute. Why are the police involved?

I’m going to guess these kids aren’t white.

<checks link>

Yup, I’m right.

I try not to jump on the race thing, but without knowing which building this is or the size - how would the angry neighbor even know that those kids didn’t “belong” there? I also question her condo board status along with her mental health status.

NP. If you look carefully, it looks like there were 12 little kids. That’s a LOT for a condo. Most people who live in condos are relatively respectful of neighbors and wouldn’t invite more than a couple kids over at a time. Speaking of kids in the pool specifically, those kids needed adults there to be appropriately supervised, which would have added a lot of people to that count. Regardless of whether adults were there, it’s also an increased legal liability for the condo if everyone opens up the facilities to essentially a whole class full of kids at a time. No lifeguards. Not to mention the noise. Noise echoes around at condos because of all the concrete around.

And speaking as someone with 2 kids in the 4-6 year age range they’re talking about, it can be a real challenge with bathrooms at that age. Many of them still need help, so that’s a ton of wet feet walking around the place dripping everywhere, or they would do what kids that age often do an simply pee in the pool. That’s a pretty big problem for a condo pool. And hopefully none of them poop.

Just think about last time you were at a huge public pool that seemed a bit crowded. There were probably 12 kids there. Then think about that in your condo pool. The fact that the inviting person thought the whole thing was NBD makes me think they maybe do similar entitled things at other times too. Pretty disrespectful when you live in such a tight communal area. If you want a class party, hire a venue for it.

So you think it's justified to call the police?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the condo policy. But this is a civil dispute. Why are the police involved?

I’m going to guess these kids aren’t white.

<checks link>

Yup, I’m right.

I try not to jump on the race thing, but without knowing which building this is or the size - how would the angry neighbor even know that those kids didn’t “belong” there? I also question her condo board status along with her mental health status.

NP. If you look carefully, it looks like there were 12 little kids. That’s a LOT for a condo. Most people who live in condos are relatively respectful of neighbors and wouldn’t invite more than a couple kids over at a time. Speaking of kids in the pool specifically, those kids needed adults there to be appropriately supervised, which would have added a lot of people to that count. Regardless of whether adults were there, it’s also an increased legal liability for the condo if everyone opens up the facilities to essentially a whole class full of kids at a time. No lifeguards. Not to mention the noise. Noise echoes around at condos because of all the concrete around.

And speaking as someone with 2 kids in the 4-6 year age range they’re talking about, it can be a real challenge with bathrooms at that age. Many of them still need help, so that’s a ton of wet feet walking around the place dripping everywhere, or they would do what kids that age often do an simply pee in the pool. That’s a pretty big problem for a condo pool. And hopefully none of them poop.

Just think about last time you were at a huge public pool that seemed a bit crowded. There were probably 12 kids there. Then think about that in your condo pool. The fact that the inviting person thought the whole thing was NBD makes me think they maybe do similar entitled things at other times too. Pretty disrespectful when you live in such a tight communal area. If you want a class party, hire a venue for it.

I don't think the woman posting was the woman living in the building. Her profile said she lived somewhere else but I didn't look closely but it wasn't Bethesda. There was a huge mix of kids in that. She was looking for a fight and got one. There may have also been other kids, especially little ones like you said.

[Anonymous]

It’s a bit rude to get invite 12 kids to a small condo pool. And of course if you object or even ask about guest fees you are racist.

[Anonymous]

I think it was wrong to call the police.

That said -- the person hosting the pool party for her child? wasn't even the condo owner but the condo owner's friend.

Its one thing to invite a single kid and your friend to the pool. Another thing entirely to invite a pack of kids and their parents when none of said parents have partial ownership of the pool or in anyway contribute to HOA dues.

It might seem petty, but if I'm paying $700/mo in building fees you damn for sure could not use my property for free.

[Anonymous]

And yes, the HOA dues there are $700/mo. Probably why Pool Becky is pissed off.

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Bethesda/7503-Spring-Lake-Dr-20817/unit-7503-D/home/10903345

[Anonymous]

So I clicked on the link and was surprised that I know who the woman who called the police is. I went to high school with her. No idea what has happened over the past 20 years or so, but a lot of her friends in high school were POC and from what I can see from her Facebook these days that is still the case. I haven't talked to her in person for over 20 years, so who knows what the situation is but I know that she never had stellar communication skills, so her approach was probably not great off the bat and then it most likely escalated to calling the police for whatever reason. Of course there's always a chance it was motivated by racism, but that wouldn't be my gut feeling in this situation.

[Anonymous]

hmmmmm. I have access to inside info. Police were called because 30 people were trespassing....bit different from 6 little kids. Guests left before mgmt got there. So who knows if these pics even match what shes talking about. Its BS

[Anonymous]

You could easily have 30 people at a birthday party with 12 little kids (not drop off) swimming.

The police should not have been involved. We don't know the policy of their HOA as far as guests, guest fees, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:hmmmmm. I have access to inside info. Police were called because 30 people were trespassing....bit different from 6 little kids. Guests left before mgmt got there. So who knows if these pics even match what shes talking about. Its BS

Are they trespassing when they were invited by the condo owner? I don’t think that you know what trespassing means. Another phrase that you could look up - civil matter. You don’t call the police on people for swimming. You file a complaint with your HOA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hmmmmm. I have access to inside info. Police were called because 30 people were trespassing....bit different from 6 little kids. Guests left before mgmt got there. So who knows if these pics even match what shes talking about. Its BS

Are they trespassing when they were invited by the condo owner? I don’t think that you know what trespassing means. Another phrase that you could look up - civil matter. You don’t call the police on people for swimming. You file a complaint with your HOA.

No its not trespassing. I am just saying the original caller said 30 people at the pool. Thats different from the fb post that said 6 little kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You could easily have 30 people at a birthday party with 12 little kids (not drop off) swimming.

The police should not have been involved. We don't know the policy of their HOA as far as guests, guest fees, etc.

DP here. I own a condo and I've never heard of any condo association that allows guests to have a PARTY of people there. Any more than 5 would be against the rules.

Its clear the owner and the owners' friend didn't go through the board or reserve off the area (which you usually can't do for the pool, just the room to the side).

It's ridiculous. Because the friend knows for a group like this and a private pool party at a business, she'd be paying $500 - $1,000 a day.

Even her post says she was there for at least 4 hours!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it was wrong to call the police.

That said -- the person hosting the pool party for her child? wasn't even the condo owner but the condo owner's friend.

Its one thing to invite a single kid and your friend to the pool. Another thing entirely to invite a pack of kids and their parents when none of said parents have partial ownership of the pool or in anyway contribute to HOA dues.

It might seem petty, but if I'm paying $700/mo in building fees you damn for sure could not use my property for free.

Every building is different, but my child and I were just at a birthday party held at a Bethesda condo recently with 20 kids, loads of adults, and even live animals. The only people who weren’t there were the cops.