Just found out that a nice person I know is a Republican

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With friends like OP, who needs enemies?
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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor is the salt of the earth. He wouldn't hesitate to give you the shirt off his back. Plus, he's a Republican. And I don't mean the country club variety. We're talking full-on InfoWars wackadoodle. We enjoy having a beer together on occasion, and we don't discuss politics.



These are narratives that need to be dismantled. I'm sure he'll give you, the friend, the shirt. But, would he give it to an addict on the streets, an immigrant, a person who kneeled at their football game, a woman wearing a Nasty Woman shirt? Maybe some really would not exclude, but my guess is that most would. This entire OP is trying to reconcile this - but people are kind to those they know and those they approve of. When it comes to everyone else a sense of unease kicks in, so they protect who and what they know.


Not the PP, but exactly the same can be said about highly partisan liberals, particularly those on full display here. Do you think they’re going to “give their shirt” to just anyone? No way would they help someone who voted for Trump, or Republicans in general. Remember, they’ve stated repeatedly that they hope Trump voters get sick, die, etc etc. Liberals have made no bones about their hatred of conservatives/Republicans/Trump voters. It’s entirely disingenuous to pretend they’re helping anyone but people who follow their narratives.


Did I claim that liberals give their shirts more than salt of the earth types? I did not. And, I will not start that narrative.

Do I care if liberals give their shirts to those folks? No, I do not. Because I believe that enacting policies benefits those with addictions, immigrants, POC, and women more than giving them a used t-shirt.

Again, what needs to die is that salt of the earth people are somehow better, nicer, and more giving than people who live on the coast and drink lattes.


But that’s just the thing - exactly the *opposite* narrative is being peddled here on DCUM every single day. Liberals keep saying that Republicans are “evil” people but liberals are somehow more moral and “virtuous.” There are umpteen posts which claim that liberals are “superior” in all ways. I mean, it would be funny if it wasn’t so absurd.


+1 exactly
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Anonymous wrote:How can I reconcile their kindness to me one on one with the Republican policies and actions that are taking away people's healthcare, making future generations pay for tax cuts for today's super rich, tainting our supreme court with partisan operatives with a history of sex assault allegations and undermining our democracy with Trump's swampy cabinet and autocratic attitude about attacking the press and obstructing justice?

My post is sincere. I think the modern GOP is basically evil so I am having a hard time understanding how someone can still be a Republican if they are a decent person.


OP, you can't believe it because you have fallen for every stereotype of a Republican there is. In truth, Republican voters want many of the same things that the Democrat voters do, they just disagree on how to go about it. Republicans do not want to take away people's health care. They want smart solutions that do not involve the fed government bloat and red tape running it, making it more complicated, and then using it to grant political favors similar to the way the tax code is used. Personally, I believe each state should be given fed funds to be used to provide health care that suits their citizenry rather than the central gov running it. IMO, keeping the money closer to the people who need subsidized healthcare means that more of that money actually gets to those people and less of it goes to bureaucratic fat cats. You do know the tax cuts included many working class people, right? They do not JUST benefit the super rich. Tainting the Supreme Court with partisan operatives. The democrats on the court vote lock step on the major issues. Roberts sided with Obamacare, even rewording parts so that it would pass. Kennedy was a swing voter. Most Republicans believe the Democratic wing of the court consists of the partisan operatives. They never break ranks.

The news repeats that Republicans want to starve your children, poison your air and water, are racist, homophobic, evil, uncaring, unkind people. I think if you actually got to know all types of people and actually listened to their opinions, you might have a more well-rounded view. The fact that you accidentally made friends with a Republican speaks volumes about how much you get outside your bubble.
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Anonymous wrote:Like I said, my post is sincere

I don't think all Republicans are horrible people but I also think almost all Republican political actions are horrible

How can I make sense of this?


Just when I thought DCUM couldn’t get any more absurd. OP, you are not doing your fellow liberals any favors here.


name 3 examples of a republican policy that helped people and didn't just help a few and screw the rest


You must be joking.

1) Deregulation and corporate tax reform to get the economy growing at 3% and delivering more and better jobs for everyone in the private sector (like, what, 100 million people?)

2) Getting rid of the crazy "Dear Colleague" regulations concerning rape in college campuses that stole the presumption of innocence and essential safeguards from over a million students...because they were male.

3) New laws favoring generic drugs to lower drug prices

You can also argue than a stronger military and the "new NAFTA" are going to help many people.

And the list continues.



LOL. Yes, let’s help the rapey frat bros. They really need help.


I see you have learned from Goebbels how to label, scapegoat, dehumanize and defame others.


I can't believe the PPs that think men need MORE protection after years and years and years of women not being taken seriously when they have tried to report rape, assault and harassment.

Finally calling men to the carpet for bad behavior is not labeling, not scapegoating, not dehumanizing, and not defaming. It's called justice.

I suspect the men who are so up in arms about recent events have reason to be scared. Times up scumbags.


Let us know how you feel about that when your husband, son, brother, father, or friend is falsely accused and no one is interested in hearing his side of the story. Look, it's clear you hate all men and want to see them burn in hell whether or not they committed any crime, but thankfully, civilized society is onto nutcases like you. Due process will be afforded to ALL. Sorry to disappoint you and your fever dream of revenge.
- A wife, mother, sister, daughter, and friend to men.


I am the PP you quoted. I haven't taken part in any of the previous responses to your post.

When I see a response like yours, it is difficult to believe it is genuine and not the work of a troll. It is difficult to take it or you seriously when it would indicate you lack any common sense or basic abilities to comprehend what you read. It is difficult to understand why you would think and respond the way you do when it flies in the face of everything that is known about harassment and assault cases against women. Our justice system already has many protections in place for any person who is accused of a crime.

I am a wife, a mother, a sister, a daughter. I am a friend to men AND women. The chances that the wonderful men in my life will be falsely accused is very, very low. On the other hand, the chances that the wonderful women in my life will have already or in the future experience harassment, assault or even rape, not to mention other negative effects of sexism that are very much present in our society, is astronomically higher. If you are truly and honestly more concerned about the men in your life being falsely accused of a sexual crime than you are for justice for the women who actually experience sexual crimes, then I fear you are a friend to no one.

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbor is the salt of the earth. He wouldn't hesitate to give you the shirt off his back. Plus, he's a Republican. And I don't mean the country club variety. We're talking full-on InfoWars wackadoodle. We enjoy having a beer together on occasion, and we don't discuss politics.



These are narratives that need to be dismantled. I'm sure he'll give you, the friend, the shirt. But, would he give it to an addict on the streets, an immigrant, a person who kneeled at their football game, a woman wearing a Nasty Woman shirt? Maybe some really would not exclude, but my guess is that most would. This entire OP is trying to reconcile this - but people are kind to those they know and those they approve of. When it comes to everyone else a sense of unease kicks in, so they protect who and what they know.


Not the PP, but exactly the same can be said about highly partisan liberals, particularly those on full display here. Do you think they’re going to “give their shirt” to just anyone? No way would they help someone who voted for Trump, or Republicans in general. Remember, they’ve stated repeatedly that they hope Trump voters get sick, die, etc etc. Liberals have made no bones about their hatred of conservatives/Republicans/Trump voters. It’s entirely disingenuous to pretend they’re helping anyone but people who follow their narratives.


Did I claim that liberals give their shirts more than salt of the earth types? I did not. And, I will not start that narrative.

Do I care if liberals give their shirts to those folks? No, I do not. Because I believe that enacting policies benefits those with addictions, immigrants, POC, and women more than giving them a used t-shirt.

Again, what needs to die is that salt of the earth people are somehow better, nicer, and more giving than people who live on the coast and drink lattes.


Truth. The truth is, most people, regardless of political affiliation, are selfish jerks when it comes down to it. Salt of the earth, my butt. That t-shirt is for friends and family. Someone else, nope.
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Anonymous wrote:Like I said, my post is sincere

I don't think all Republicans are horrible people but I also think almost all Republican political actions are horrible

How can I make sense of this?


Just when I thought DCUM couldn’t get any more absurd. OP, you are not doing your fellow liberals any favors here.


name 3 examples of a republican policy that helped people and didn't just help a few and screw the rest


You must be joking.

1) Deregulation and corporate tax reform to get the economy growing at 3% and delivering more and better jobs for everyone in the private sector (like, what, 100 million people?)

2) Getting rid of the crazy "Dear Colleague" regulations concerning rape in college campuses that stole the presumption of innocence and essential safeguards from over a million students...because they were male.

3) New laws favoring generic drugs to lower drug prices

You can also argue than a stronger military and the "new NAFTA" are going to help many people.

And the list continues.



LOL. Yes, let’s help the rapey frat bros. They really need help.


I see you have learned from Goebbels how to label, scapegoat, dehumanize and defame others.


I can't believe the PPs that think men need MORE protection after years and years and years of women not being taken seriously when they have tried to report rape, assault and harassment.

Finally calling men to the carpet for bad behavior is not labeling, not scapegoating, not dehumanizing, and not defaming. It's called justice.

I suspect the men who are so up in arms about recent events have reason to be scared. Times up scumbags.


Let us know how you feel about that when your husband, son, brother, father, or friend is falsely accused and no one is interested in hearing his side of the story. Look, it's clear you hate all men and want to see them burn in hell whether or not they committed any crime, but thankfully, civilized society is onto nutcases like you. Due process will be afforded to ALL. Sorry to disappoint you and your fever dream of revenge.
- A wife, mother, sister, daughter, and friend to men.


I am the PP you quoted. I haven't taken part in any of the previous responses to your post.

When I see a response like yours, it is difficult to believe it is genuine and not the work of a troll. It is difficult to take it or you seriously when it would indicate you lack any common sense or basic abilities to comprehend what you read. It is difficult to understand why you would think and respond the way you do when it flies in the face of everything that is known about harassment and assault cases against women. Our justice system already has many protections in place for any person who is accused of a crime.

I am a wife, a mother, a sister, a daughter. I am a friend to men AND women. The chances that the wonderful men in my life will be falsely accused is very, very low. On the other hand, the chances that the wonderful women in my life will have already or in the future experience harassment, assault or even rape, not to mention other negative effects of sexism that are very much present in our society, is astronomically higher. If you are truly and honestly more concerned about the men in your life being falsely accused of a sexual crime than you are for justice for the women who actually experience sexual crimes, then I fear you are a friend to no one.



NP. Thank goodness for DeVos’ reforms which are, on balance, reasonable. Yes, the chances are very small that sons will be falsely accused. But there’s a chance nonetheless. And virtually any privileged mommy here would spare no cost or leave any stone unturned if her snowflake son convincingly maintained his innocence. White women of privilege should also be advocates for minoriity men who are falsely accused.
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Context: I’m a center-right independent and former registered Republican.

Posts like this I think are important because, while they sound ridiculous, I think they’re illustrative of how a lot of probably well-intentioned liberals really do see the world. I used to love to talk about politics with people, but, over time, I noticed good natured debates became increasingly hostile and people would say things like “I can’t believe YOU’RE a Republican.” Progressives tend to dismiss this and joke about conversatives’ victim complex, but in all honesty, it’s incredibly isolating.
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Anonymous wrote:Like I said, my post is sincere

I don't think all Republicans are horrible people but I also think almost all Republican political actions are horrible

How can I make sense of this?


Just when I thought DCUM couldn’t get any more absurd. OP, you are not doing your fellow liberals any favors here.


name 3 examples of a republican policy that helped people and didn't just help a few and screw the rest


You must be joking.

1) Deregulation and corporate tax reform to get the economy growing at 3% and delivering more and better jobs for everyone in the private sector (like, what, 100 million people?)

2) Getting rid of the crazy "Dear Colleague" regulations concerning rape in college campuses that stole the presumption of innocence and essential safeguards from over a million students...because they were male.

3) New laws favoring generic drugs to lower drug prices

You can also argue than a stronger military and the "new NAFTA" are going to help many people.

And the list continues.



LOL. Yes, let’s help the rapey frat bros. They really need help.


I see you have learned from Goebbels how to label, scapegoat, dehumanize and defame others.


I can't believe the PPs that think men need MORE protection after years and years and years of women not being taken seriously when they have tried to report rape, assault and harassment.

Finally calling men to the carpet for bad behavior is not labeling, not scapegoating, not dehumanizing, and not defaming. It's called justice.

I suspect the men who are so up in arms about recent events have reason to be scared. Times up scumbags.


Let us know how you feel about that when your husband, son, brother, father, or friend is falsely accused and no one is interested in hearing his side of the story. Look, it's clear you hate all men and want to see them burn in hell whether or not they committed any crime, but thankfully, civilized society is onto nutcases like you. Due process will be afforded to ALL. Sorry to disappoint you and your fever dream of revenge.
- A wife, mother, sister, daughter, and friend to men.


I am the PP you quoted. I haven't taken part in any of the previous responses to your post.

When I see a response like yours, it is difficult to believe it is genuine and not the work of a troll. It is difficult to take it or you seriously when it would indicate you lack any common sense or basic abilities to comprehend what you read. It is difficult to understand why you would think and respond the way you do when it flies in the face of everything that is known about harassment and assault cases against women. Our justice system already has many protections in place for any person who is accused of a crime.

I am a wife, a mother, a sister, a daughter. I am a friend to men AND women. The chances that the wonderful men in my life will be falsely accused is very, very low. On the other hand, the chances that the wonderful women in my life will have already or in the future experience harassment, assault or even rape, not to mention other negative effects of sexism that are very much present in our society, is astronomically higher. If you are truly and honestly more concerned about the men in your life being falsely accused of a sexual crime than you are for justice for the women who actually experience sexual crimes, then I fear you are a friend to no one.



NP. Thank goodness for DeVos’ reforms which are, on balance, reasonable. Yes, the chances are very small that sons will be falsely accused. But there’s a chance nonetheless. And virtually any privileged mommy here would spare no cost or leave any stone unturned if her snowflake son convincingly maintained his innocence. White women of privilege should also be advocates for minoriity men who are falsely accused.


Did you read all of the victim protections she removed? You are disgusting.
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Anonymous wrote:Like I said, my post is sincere

I don't think all Republicans are horrible people but I also think almost all Republican political actions are horrible

How can I make sense of this?


Just when I thought DCUM couldn’t get any more absurd. OP, you are not doing your fellow liberals any favors here.


name 3 examples of a republican policy that helped people and didn't just help a few and screw the rest


You must be joking.

1) Deregulation and corporate tax reform to get the economy growing at 3% and delivering more and better jobs for everyone in the private sector (like, what, 100 million people?)

2) Getting rid of the crazy "Dear Colleague" regulations concerning rape in college campuses that stole the presumption of innocence and essential safeguards from over a million students...because they were male.

3) New laws favoring generic drugs to lower drug prices

You can also argue than a stronger military and the "new NAFTA" are going to help many people.

And the list continues.



LOL. Yes, let’s help the rapey frat bros. They really need help.


I see you have learned from Goebbels how to label, scapegoat, dehumanize and defame others.


I can't believe the PPs that think men need MORE protection after years and years and years of women not being taken seriously when they have tried to report rape, assault and harassment.

Finally calling men to the carpet for bad behavior is not labeling, not scapegoating, not dehumanizing, and not defaming. It's called justice.

I suspect the men who are so up in arms about recent events have reason to be scared. Times up scumbags.


Let us know how you feel about that when your husband, son, brother, father, or friend is falsely accused and no one is interested in hearing his side of the story. Look, it's clear you hate all men and want to see them burn in hell whether or not they committed any crime, but thankfully, civilized society is onto nutcases like you. Due process will be afforded to ALL. Sorry to disappoint you and your fever dream of revenge.
- A wife, mother, sister, daughter, and friend to men.


I am the PP you quoted. I haven't taken part in any of the previous responses to your post.

When I see a response like yours, it is difficult to believe it is genuine and not the work of a troll. It is difficult to take it or you seriously when it would indicate you lack any common sense or basic abilities to comprehend what you read. It is difficult to understand why you would think and respond the way you do when it flies in the face of everything that is known about harassment and assault cases against women. Our justice system already has many protections in place for any person who is accused of a crime.

I am a wife, a mother, a sister, a daughter. I am a friend to men AND women. The chances that the wonderful men in my life will be falsely accused is very, very low. On the other hand, the chances that the wonderful women in my life will have already or in the future experience harassment, assault or even rape, not to mention other negative effects of sexism that are very much present in our society, is astronomically higher. If you are truly and honestly more concerned about the men in your life being falsely accused of a sexual crime than you are for justice for the women who actually experience sexual crimes, then I fear you are a friend to no one.



NP. Thank goodness for DeVos’ reforms which are, on balance, reasonable. Yes, the chances are very small that sons will be falsely accused. But there’s a chance nonetheless. And virtually any privileged mommy here would spare no cost or leave any stone unturned if her snowflake son convincingly maintained his innocence. White women of privilege should also be advocates for minoriity men who are falsely accused.


I completely disagree. There is no epidemic of men being falsely accused. There is NO NEED for extra protection for men, who historically have been believed over victims. The protections are needed FOR VICTIMS.

WTF is wrong with you? I say that quite seriously and not flippantly. What kind of kid are you raising that you are more worried for him being accused that for women who are victimized?
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Anonymous wrote:Like I said, my post is sincere

I don't think all Republicans are horrible people but I also think almost all Republican political actions are horrible

How can I make sense of this?


Just when I thought DCUM couldn’t get any more absurd. OP, you are not doing your fellow liberals any favors here.


name 3 examples of a republican policy that helped people and didn't just help a few and screw the rest


You must be joking.

1) Deregulation and corporate tax reform to get the economy growing at 3% and delivering more and better jobs for everyone in the private sector (like, what, 100 million people?)

2) Getting rid of the crazy "Dear Colleague" regulations concerning rape in college campuses that stole the presumption of innocence and essential safeguards from over a million students...because they were male.

3) New laws favoring generic drugs to lower drug prices

You can also argue than a stronger military and the "new NAFTA" are going to help many people.

And the list continues.



LOL. Yes, let’s help the rapey frat bros. They really need help.


I see you have learned from Goebbels how to label, scapegoat, dehumanize and defame others.


I can't believe the PPs that think men need MORE protection after years and years and years of women not being taken seriously when they have tried to report rape, assault and harassment.

Finally calling men to the carpet for bad behavior is not labeling, not scapegoating, not dehumanizing, and not defaming. It's called justice.

I suspect the men who are so up in arms about recent events have reason to be scared. Times up scumbags.


Let us know how you feel about that when your husband, son, brother, father, or friend is falsely accused and no one is interested in hearing his side of the story. Look, it's clear you hate all men and want to see them burn in hell whether or not they committed any crime, but thankfully, civilized society is onto nutcases like you. Due process will be afforded to ALL. Sorry to disappoint you and your fever dream of revenge.
- A wife, mother, sister, daughter, and friend to men.


I am the PP you quoted. I haven't taken part in any of the previous responses to your post.

When I see a response like yours, it is difficult to believe it is genuine and not the work of a troll. It is difficult to take it or you seriously when it would indicate you lack any common sense or basic abilities to comprehend what you read. It is difficult to understand why you would think and respond the way you do when it flies in the face of everything that is known about harassment and assault cases against women. Our justice system already has many protections in place for any person who is accused of a crime.

I am a wife, a mother, a sister, a daughter. I am a friend to men AND women. The chances that the wonderful men in my life will be falsely accused is very, very low. On the other hand, the chances that the wonderful women in my life will have already or in the future experience harassment, assault or even rape, not to mention other negative effects of sexism that are very much present in our society, is astronomically higher. If you are truly and honestly more concerned about the men in your life being falsely accused of a sexual crime than you are for justice for the women who actually experience sexual crimes, then I fear you are a friend to no one.



NP. Thank goodness for DeVos’ reforms which are, on balance, reasonable. Yes, the chances are very small that sons will be falsely accused. But there’s a chance nonetheless. And virtually any privileged mommy here would spare no cost or leave any stone unturned if her snowflake son convincingly maintained his innocence. White women of privilege should also be advocates for minoriity men who are falsely accused.


Did you read all of the victim protections she removed? You are disgusting.


No lie. These women who are more worried for the remote possibility that their son will be falsely accused (!!!!!!!!!!!WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) than for victimized women are so completely frustrating.
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Anonymous wrote:Context: I’m a center-right independent and former registered Republican.

Posts like this I think are important because, while they sound ridiculous, I think they’re illustrative of how a lot of probably well-intentioned liberals really do see the world. I used to love to talk about politics with people, but, over time, I noticed good natured debates became increasingly hostile and people would say things like “I can’t believe YOU’RE a Republican.” Progressives tend to dismiss this and joke about conversatives’ victim complex, but in all honesty, it’s incredibly isolating.


I am a Democrat with socially-liberal views and just your telling me you were a registered Republican would not cause me to pre-judge you. I have a family that consists of both registered Democrats and Republicans.

If you were a devoted Trump supporter at the present time, then I would really wonder about you, and not in a good way.
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Anonymous wrote:Like I said, my post is sincere

I don't think all Republicans are horrible people but I also think almost all Republican political actions are horrible

How can I make sense of this?


Just when I thought DCUM couldn’t get any more absurd. OP, you are not doing your fellow liberals any favors here.


name 3 examples of a republican policy that helped people and didn't just help a few and screw the rest


You must be joking.

1) Deregulation and corporate tax reform to get the economy growing at 3% and delivering more and better jobs for everyone in the private sector (like, what, 100 million people?)

2) Getting rid of the crazy "Dear Colleague" regulations concerning rape in college campuses that stole the presumption of innocence and essential safeguards from over a million students...because they were male.

3) New laws favoring generic drugs to lower drug prices

You can also argue than a stronger military and the "new NAFTA" are going to help many people.

And the list continues.



LOL. Yes, let’s help the rapey frat bros. They really need help.


I see you have learned from Goebbels how to label, scapegoat, dehumanize and defame others.


I can't believe the PPs that think men need MORE protection after years and years and years of women not being taken seriously when they have tried to report rape, assault and harassment.

Finally calling men to the carpet for bad behavior is not labeling, not scapegoating, not dehumanizing, and not defaming. It's called justice.

I suspect the men who are so up in arms about recent events have reason to be scared. Times up scumbags.


Let us know how you feel about that when your husband, son, brother, father, or friend is falsely accused and no one is interested in hearing his side of the story. Look, it's clear you hate all men and want to see them burn in hell whether or not they committed any crime, but thankfully, civilized society is onto nutcases like you. Due process will be afforded to ALL. Sorry to disappoint you and your fever dream of revenge.
- A wife, mother, sister, daughter, and friend to men.


I am the PP you quoted. I haven't taken part in any of the previous responses to your post.

When I see a response like yours, it is difficult to believe it is genuine and not the work of a troll. It is difficult to take it or you seriously when it would indicate you lack any common sense or basic abilities to comprehend what you read. It is difficult to understand why you would think and respond the way you do when it flies in the face of everything that is known about harassment and assault cases against women. Our justice system already has many protections in place for any person who is accused of a crime.

I am a wife, a mother, a sister, a daughter. I am a friend to men AND women. The chances that the wonderful men in my life will be falsely accused is very, very low. On the other hand, the chances that the wonderful women in my life will have already or in the future experience harassment, assault or even rape, not to mention other negative effects of sexism that are very much present in our society, is astronomically higher. If you are truly and honestly more concerned about the men in your life being falsely accused of a sexual crime than you are for justice for the women who actually experience sexual crimes, then I fear you are a friend to no one.



NP. Thank goodness for DeVos’ reforms which are, on balance, reasonable. Yes, the chances are very small that sons will be falsely accused. But there’s a chance nonetheless. And virtually any privileged mommy here would spare no cost or leave any stone unturned if her snowflake son convincingly maintained his innocence. White women of privilege should also be advocates for minoriity men who are falsely accused.


Did you read all of the victim protections she removed? You are disgusting.


No lie. These women who are more worried for the remote possibility that their son will be falsely accused (!!!!!!!!!!!WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) than for victimized women are so completely frustrating.


Go back to your cave and learn some history and some law.

Fundamentalist people like you thrive in Iran. This is a country build on something called a Constitution.
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You are bizarrely judging a human being based on that person’s political affiliations. That suggest a lack of perspective, no?


So bizarre! Judging someone based on their choice to use their political influence to make other people's lives worse!

What's next? Will we start judging people based on their actions? On the things they say? On the crimes they commit? Is nothing sacred anymore?!


The problem with your characterization is that it's wrong.

Whatever you may think about Republicans or Democrats, their end goal is actually very similar: maximize the happiness of all humans. The disagreement isn't on the goal, but how to get there. Republicans mostly see this and this is why the general feeling of Republicans towards Democrats is that the later is misinformed. Democrats somehow think that Republicans have different end goals, that instead of maximizing the happiness of all humans, Republicans are for oppression and suffering - and in this light it's easy to agree then that people working towards such goals are indeed evil.


I'm truly asking because I didn't get the memo...How are Republicans trying to maximize the happiness of LGBT, women, POC, and those who fall on hard times?


Perhaps by not labeling various groups of people “victims” and expecting society to treat them as such? How refreshing.
-DP


+1.

And by focusing on the common good for the vast majority of problem, not just on the special interests of very narrow groups of people, as nice and worthy as they may be.


+100
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You are bizarrely judging a human being based on that person’s political affiliations. That suggest a lack of perspective, no?


So bizarre! Judging someone based on their choice to use their political influence to make other people's lives worse!

What's next? Will we start judging people based on their actions? On the things they say? On the crimes they commit? Is nothing sacred anymore?!


The problem with your characterization is that it's wrong.

Whatever you may think about Republicans or Democrats, their end goal is actually very similar: maximize the happiness of all humans. The disagreement isn't on the goal, but how to get there. Republicans mostly see this and this is why the general feeling of Republicans towards Democrats is that the later is misinformed. Democrats somehow think that Republicans have different end goals, that instead of maximizing the happiness of all humans, Republicans are for oppression and suffering - and in this light it's easy to agree then that people working towards such goals are indeed evil.


I'm truly asking because I didn't get the memo...How are Republicans trying to maximize the happiness of LGBT, women, POC, and those who fall on hard times?


Perhaps by not labeling various groups of people “victims” and expecting society to treat them as such? How refreshing.
-DP


+1.

And by focusing on the common good for the vast majority of problem, not just on the special interests of very narrow groups of people, as nice and worthy as they may be.


Got it. “Majority” = white men.

Yes, screw those women, POC, etc.



DP. How are women, POC, etc. not part of America as a whole? Why do you continue to divide and sort people into convenient little boxes and categories? How about we are ALL Americans and as such, we all deserve equal protections under the law - period. Wow, such a novel thought.
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