Loudoun Struggles in ECNL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This week-end, Loudoun ECNL teams had 3 wins, 7 losses and 2 draws. Loudoun's ECNL teams currently have a combined -53 goal difference. No Loudoun ECNL team has a positive goal difference in any of the age groups.

They won 3 games and had 2 draws? That means they roughly only lost half their games. It also means they are being challenged. I don't see the issue.

They lost 7 out of 12 games, which means they lost roughly 60 percent of their games, 58 percent if you do math.

[Anonymous]

Also realize that ECNL teams will not necessarily play their strongest rosters against Loudon. If they are low in the league, the opponent's non-starters will get substantially more playing time than usual. If Loudon is playing a top 3 team at any age group in the division, that team will give their starters more of a rest than usual.

[Anonymous]

VDA has 16 wins- (11 of those coming from u13-14) this club is doing terribly in the age groups that are important in the ECNL. 6 wins from 28 games in the 15-16-17-18/19 age groups...



It will be interesting to see if they can retain these players in at u15 as other clubs seem to take over.

[Anonymous]

Wins in VA in ages u15,u16,u17,u18/19 (recruiting ages) it would be crazy to include u13-14 as it is not about winning at these very young age groups.

McLean 19 from 30 games McLean 63%
BRYC 17 from 28 games BRYC. 61%
Richmond United 16 from 32 Richutd 50%
VDA 6 from 36 games VDA. 17%
Loudoun 5 from 28 games Loudoun 18%

This thread was created as a bash on Loudoun but the reality is VDA is just as bad. The ECNL was created to showcase players for college, that is why the u13-14 age group scores are irrelevant unless you have 13&14 year olds at VDA being recruited.

17%, so VDA parents need to take a step back, most of those kids will leave for BRYC or McLean at u15.

On the other hand McLean and BRYC deserve a lot of credit for doing so well, it is a very difficult league.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VDA has 16 wins- (11 of those coming from u13-14) this club is doing terribly in the age groups that are important in the ECNL. 6 wins from 28 games in the 15-16-17-18/19 age groups...



It will be interesting to see if they can retain these players in at u15 as other clubs seem to take over.

Loudoun has 8 wins in ALL age groups! VDA with its 16 wins compares rather favorably, i.e., they won twice as many games. VDA has much better record than Loudoun in all but the two oldest groups, in which both clubs have terrible teams.

[Anonymous]

U13-14 age groups are completely irrelevant in the ECNL. These are developmental age groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wins in VA in ages u15,u16,u17,u18/19 (recruiting ages) it would be crazy to include u13-14 as it is not about winning at these very young age groups.

McLean 19 from 30 games McLean 63%
BRYC 17 from 28 games BRYC. 61%
Richmond United 16 from 32 Richutd 50%
VDA 6 from 36 games VDA. 17%
Loudoun 5 from 28 games Loudoun 18%

This thread was created as a bash on Loudoun but the reality is VDA is just as bad. The ECNL was created to showcase players for college, that is why the u13-14 age group scores are irrelevant unless you have 13&14 year olds at VDA being recruited.

17%, so VDA parents need to take a step back, most of those kids will leave for BRYC or McLean at u15.

On the other hand McLean and BRYC deserve a lot of credit for doing so well, it is a very difficult league.

What a nice way to manipulate the numbers to make Loudoun's parents to feel better. Let's exclude U13 and U14 teams in which VDA is in top three in the league winning 10 out of 13 games (roughly 77 percent). And, incidentally, Loudoun's teams are in the 7th and 9th places in the same age groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U13-14 age groups are completely irrelevant in the ECNL. These are developmental age groups.

Interesting .. . . . after multiple posts touting Loudoun's 06 pre-ECNL team (U12s), all of a sudden U13-14 ECNL teams become irrelevant to overall ECNL performance because they are developmental age groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wins in VA in ages u15,u16,u17,u18/19 (recruiting ages) it would be crazy to include u13-14 as it is not about winning at these very young age groups.

McLean 19 from 30 games McLean 63%
BRYC 17 from 28 games BRYC. 61%
Richmond United 16 from 32 Richutd 50%
VDA 6 from 36 games VDA. 17%
Loudoun 5 from 28 games Loudoun 18%

This thread was created as a bash on Loudoun but the reality is VDA is just as bad. The ECNL was created to showcase players for college, that is why the u13-14 age group scores are irrelevant unless you have 13&14 year olds at VDA being recruited.

17%, so VDA parents need to take a step back, most of those kids will leave for BRYC or McLean at u15.

On the other hand McLean and BRYC deserve a lot of credit for doing so well, it is a very difficult league.

What a nice way to manipulate the numbers to make Loudoun's parents to feel better. Let's exclude U13 and U14 teams in which VDA is in top three in the league winning 10 out of 13 games (roughly 77 percent). And, incidentally, Loudoun's teams are in the 7th and 9th places in the same age groups.

Players play in the ECNL to get recruited. Players do not get recruited until u15 at the earliest. Lets check on the VDA 05-06 in 2 years when most of the teams leave for fcv McLean and BRYC. Or when they start focusing on results. McLean beat VDA 14-1 in goals in 16-17-17-18/19. BRYC beat VDA 14-4 in the same ages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wins in VA in ages u15,u16,u17,u18/19 (recruiting ages) it would be crazy to include u13-14 as it is not about winning at these very young age groups.

McLean 19 from 30 games McLean 63%
BRYC 17 from 28 games BRYC. 61%
Richmond United 16 from 32 Richutd 50%
VDA 6 from 36 games VDA. 17%
Loudoun 5 from 28 games Loudoun 18%

This thread was created as a bash on Loudoun but the reality is VDA is just as bad. The ECNL was created to showcase players for college, that is why the u13-14 age group scores are irrelevant unless you have 13&14 year olds at VDA being recruited.

17%, so VDA parents need to take a step back, most of those kids will leave for BRYC or McLean at u15.

On the other hand McLean and BRYC deserve a lot of credit for doing so well, it is a very difficult league.

What a nice way to manipulate the numbers to make Loudoun's parents to feel better. Let's exclude U13 and U14 teams in which VDA is in top three in the league winning 10 out of 13 games (roughly 77 percent). And, incidentally, Loudoun's teams are in the 7th and 9th places in the same age groups.

Players play in the ECNL to get recruited. Players do not get recruited until u15 at the earliest. Lets check on the VDA 05-06 in 2 years when most of the teams leave for fcv McLean and BRYC. Or when they start focusing on results. McLean beat VDA 14-1 in goals in 16-17-17-18/19. BRYC beat VDA 14-4 in the same ages.

Your logic does not explain why VDA U15 team is higher in the standings than both McLean and BRYC. And they did well in the head to head games against both of these clubs. Why would they leave for a lower ranked team from another local club?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wins in VA in ages u15,u16,u17,u18/19 (recruiting ages) it would be crazy to include u13-14 as it is not about winning at these very young age groups.

McLean 19 from 30 games McLean 63%
BRYC 17 from 28 games BRYC. 61%
Richmond United 16 from 32 Richutd 50%
VDA 6 from 36 games VDA. 17%
Loudoun 5 from 28 games Loudoun 18%

This thread was created as a bash on Loudoun but the reality is VDA is just as bad. The ECNL was created to showcase players for college, that is why the u13-14 age group scores are irrelevant unless you have 13&14 year olds at VDA being recruited.

17%, so VDA parents need to take a step back, most of those kids will leave for BRYC or McLean at u15.

On the other hand McLean and BRYC deserve a lot of credit for doing so well, it is a very difficult league.

What a nice way to manipulate the numbers to make Loudoun's parents to feel better. Let's exclude U13 and U14 teams in which VDA is in top three in the league winning 10 out of 13 games (roughly 77 percent). And, incidentally, Loudoun's teams are in the 7th and 9th places in the same age groups.

Players play in the ECNL to get recruited. Players do not get recruited until u15 at the earliest. Lets check on the VDA 05-06 in 2 years when most of the teams leave for fcv McLean and BRYC. Or when they start focusing on results. McLean beat VDA 14-1 in goals in 16-17-17-18/19. BRYC beat VDA 14-4 in the same ages.

Your logic does not explain why VDA U15 team is higher in the standings than both McLean and BRYC. And they did well in the head to head games against both of these clubs. Why would they leave for a lower ranked team from another local club?

They tied BRYC and have played 2 more games than them? Only 4 points ahead, if BRYC beats Ncfc and Wilmington they would go back ahead. Two very equal teams.

[Anonymous]

Here’s some fuzzy math for you: if Loudoun 06 is terrible, what does that mean for the three DA teams it played in WAGS (0-1 against PA Classics, 0-0 with PK win over FCV, 0-0 with PK loss vs Penn Fusion)?

By the transitive properties you’re applying, the Girls DA will be just as poor.

Go fly a kite. And if you’re an FCV supporter: go watch your club cram six teams on one field for training.

Here’s the reality: Loudoun is competitive. It’ll take a year or two for gains to be made because the older age groups are lacking the experience of competing at this level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s some fuzzy math for you: if Loudoun 06 is terrible, what does that mean for the three DA teams it played in WAGS (0-1 against PA Classics, 0-0 with PK win over FCV, 0-0 with PK loss vs Penn Fusion)?

By the transitive properties you’re applying, the Girls DA will be just as poor.

Go fly a kite. And if you’re an FCV supporter: go watch your club cram six teams on one field for training.

Here’s the reality: Loudoun is competitive. It’ll take a year or two for gains to be made because the older age groups are lacking the experience of competing at this level.

Did anyone argue Loudoun 06 was terrible? I think the argument was overall as a club they were lagging the other ECNL teams, based on results.

[Anonymous]

Nobody was bashing Loudoun 06 team. However, the team is not in ECNL so it does not count toward Loudoun's overall ECNL performance. I don't think I agree with the poster who argues that VDA is just as bad as Loudoun. VDA has three solid ECNL teams in U13 through U15 age groups so VDA's future looks bright. Loudoun does not have a single team in top five in any age group in ECNL. Loudoun's best case scenario is that the players on its 06 team stay with the club and Loudoun would use that team to market its program. However, their 05 team is not a high level team so it seems Loudoun's 06 team is the lone bright spot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody was bashing Loudoun 06 team. However, the team is not in ECNL so it does not count toward Loudoun's overall ECNL performance. I don't think I agree with the poster who argues that VDA is just as bad as Loudoun. VDA has three solid ECNL teams in U13 through U15 age groups so VDA's future looks bright. Loudoun does not have a single team in top five in any age group in ECNL. Loudoun's best case scenario is that the players on its 06 team stay with the club and Loudoun would use that team to market its program. However, their 05 team is not a high level team so it seems Loudoun's 06 team is the lone bright spot.

Exactly was is the birth year of VDA's U13 ECNL team?