Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

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Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

I guess I didn't write that very well. I didn't mean every single FCV 2019 player is going to Virginia Tech. I meant that, of the FCV 2019 players committed to Virginia Tech, not all of them are getting a full ride and may not be getting as much of an athletic scholarship as players at other clubs signing with mid-level D1 schools.

I don't think anyone honestly interpreted your comment as "every FCV player committed to VA Tech". But, that ANY of the players were given full rides is also extremely unlikely. A college D1 school has about 9 scholarships for the entire team that are most often split up. If a kid receives any scholarship it is most certainly a partial scholarship and almost never a full ride. Your point about scholarships for those types of players at mid level schools is more likely the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

I guess I didn't write that very well. I didn't mean every single FCV 2019 player is going to Virginia Tech. I meant that, of the FCV 2019 players committed to Virginia Tech, not all of them are getting a full ride and may not be getting as much of an athletic scholarship as players at other clubs signing with mid-level D1 schools.

I don't think anyone honestly interpreted your comment as "every FCV player committed to VA Tech". But, that ANY of the players were given full rides is also extremely unlikely. A college D1 school has about 9 scholarships for the entire team that are most often split up. If a kid receives any scholarship it is most certainly a partial scholarship and almost never a full ride. Your point about scholarships for those types of players at mid level schools is more likely the case.

This is true for all programs, not just FCV, correct? When any local ECNL/DA/other club posts college commitments list, it does not mean that everyone listed got the full ride scholarship.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

I guess I didn't write that very well. I didn't mean every single FCV 2019 player is going to Virginia Tech. I meant that, of the FCV 2019 players committed to Virginia Tech, not all of them are getting a full ride and may not be getting as much of an athletic scholarship as players at other clubs signing with mid-level D1 schools.

I don't think anyone honestly interpreted your comment as "every FCV player committed to VA Tech". But, that ANY of the players were given full rides is also extremely unlikely. A college D1 school has about 9 scholarships for the entire team that are most often split up. If a kid receives any scholarship it is most certainly a partial scholarship and almost never a full ride. Your point about scholarships for those types of players at mid level schools is more likely the case.

This is true for all programs, not just FCV, correct? When any local ECNL/DA/other club posts college commitments list, it does not mean that everyone listed got the full ride scholarship.

Correct, obviously. It was just an example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

I guess I didn't write that very well. I didn't mean every single FCV 2019 player is going to Virginia Tech. I meant that, of the FCV 2019 players committed to Virginia Tech, not all of them are getting a full ride and may not be getting as much of an athletic scholarship as players at other clubs signing with mid-level D1 schools.

I don't think anyone honestly interpreted your comment as "every FCV player committed to VA Tech". But, that ANY of the players were given full rides is also extremely unlikely. A college D1 school has about 9 scholarships for the entire team that are most often split up. If a kid receives any scholarship it is most certainly a partial scholarship and almost never a full ride. Your point about scholarships for those types of players at mid level schools is more likely the case.

Not that it makes a huge difference, but NCAA Div 1 women's soccer teams have 14 scholarships to offer while D2 can offer 9.9. Those scholarships are indeed divided amongst an entire team (25-28 players?). D1 schools can often help by providing competitive financial aid offers on top of the scholarship money they are providing. That being said, most families will receive a bill for their D1 player.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

I guess I didn't write that very well. I didn't mean every single FCV 2019 player is going to Virginia Tech. I meant that, of the FCV 2019 players committed to Virginia Tech, not all of them are getting a full ride and may not be getting as much of an athletic scholarship as players at other clubs signing with mid-level D1 schools.

I don't think anyone honestly interpreted your comment as "every FCV player committed to VA Tech". But, that ANY of the players were given full rides is also extremely unlikely. A college D1 school has about 9 scholarships for the entire team that are most often split up. If a kid receives any scholarship it is most certainly a partial scholarship and almost never a full ride. Your point about scholarships for those types of players at mid level schools is more likely the case.

This is true for all programs, not just FCV, correct? When any local ECNL/DA/other club posts college commitments list, it does not mean that everyone listed got the full ride scholarship.

Being committed does not equal scholarship at all. Being committed simply means that the player will be on the college soccer team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

I guess I didn't write that very well. I didn't mean every single FCV 2019 player is going to Virginia Tech. I meant that, of the FCV 2019 players committed to Virginia Tech, not all of them are getting a full ride and may not be getting as much of an athletic scholarship as players at other clubs signing with mid-level D1 schools.

I don't think anyone honestly interpreted your comment as "every FCV player committed to VA Tech". But, that ANY of the players were given full rides is also extremely unlikely. A college D1 school has about 9 scholarships for the entire team that are most often split up. If a kid receives any scholarship it is most certainly a partial scholarship and almost never a full ride. Your point about scholarships for those types of players at mid level schools is more likely the case.

Just pointing out a clarification. The PP was pointing out examples of FCV commitments to strong schools such as...and they listed Princeton. Some people might interpret that to mean that an FCV has a commitment to Princeton - which is not the case. There are 3 local ECNL players committed to Princeton. One from McLean and 2 from Bethesda. But no FCV or any other local DA team has a Princeton commit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

I guess I didn't write that very well. I didn't mean every single FCV 2019 player is going to Virginia Tech. I meant that, of the FCV 2019 players committed to Virginia Tech, not all of them are getting a full ride and may not be getting as much of an athletic scholarship as players at other clubs signing with mid-level D1 schools.

I don't think anyone honestly interpreted your comment as "every FCV player committed to VA Tech". But, that ANY of the players were given full rides is also extremely unlikely. A college D1 school has about 9 scholarships for the entire team that are most often split up. If a kid receives any scholarship it is most certainly a partial scholarship and almost never a full ride. Your point about scholarships for those types of players at mid level schools is more likely the case.

Just pointing out a clarification. The PP was pointing out examples of FCV commitments to strong schools such as...and they listed Princeton. Some people might interpret that to mean that an FCV has a commitment to Princeton - which is not the case. There are 3 local ECNL players committed to Princeton. One from McLean and 2 from Bethesda. But no FCV or any other local DA team has a Princeton commit.

Not to rain on your parade of insider knowledge, but Princeton commitment is listed on FCV website for the class of 2019. https://www.fcvirginia.com/page/show/3158219-college-commitments

[Anonymous]

From a quick look online, it appears that the McLean Princeton commit and the FC Virginia one are the same person. Presumably some club switching happened along the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From a quick look online, it appears that the McLean Princeton commit and the FC Virginia one are the same person. Presumably some club switching happened along the way.

I would not be surprised if it was the case. Players move a lot between various clubs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From a quick look online, it appears that the McLean Princeton commit and the FC Virginia one are the same person. Presumably some club switching happened along the way.

LOL. FCV taking credit for a player that is not with the club. She is not an FCV player and not on any FCV DA roster.

https://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-player-profile/ella-gantman/pid-98215

[Anonymous]

Wow how embarrassing to FCV. The girl used to play for FCV and committed to Miami. She then left for McLean ECNL and later committed to Princeton.

So truth stands FCV has no Princeton commits but they sure lied about one! LMAO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow how embarrassing to FCV. The girl used to play for FCV and committed to Miami. She then left for McLean ECNL and later committed to Princeton.

So truth stands FCV has no Princeton commits but they sure lied about one! LMAO

Do I have this right:

She was at FCV until FCV switched from ECNL to DA.

She decided not to do DA with FCV, and instead left for McLean and their ECNL team.

She then, with some help from McLean, improved her college offers from Miami to Princeton?


If that is accurate, then that puts a large dent in the FCV parent recruiting propaganda that constantly gets posted on this blog. Maybe ECNL and McLean have something to offer after all . . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy that some parents think winning is not important 16+.... College coaches are not going to sit and watch a team that can't win a game. I would look at the amount of coaches that watch McLean and BRYC at 16-17-19 in Greer and Sanford and compare it to what shows up for Loudoun and VDA matches. There is absolutely no reason teams 16+ should not be going on the field to win games. If you are being told other wise run... fast.

Absolutely true. At that point, if a team is getting its ass handed to it game after game, either find another team to play or accept that your child should be playing in a lower division. Players won't get recruited from teams that can't compete.

OK --- then compare the commitments from the Richmond U-17 team (sub 500 win pct) and the BRYC U-17 (about 600 win pct) --- looks that Richmond team is doing just fine in placing girls in higher profile programs that the BRYC team.

BTW: If you think you're kid won't get recruited on a bad ECNL team because nobody watches them, how many coaches do you think come to CCL / NCSL / etc games? And do you think the coaches will be excited about a worse player on a successful CCL / NCSL player.

That's like saying only players from FBS teams will get drafted into the NFL, and if you're not one of those teams, no NFL scout will see you.

BRYC U-17 is basically a new team. They only have 2 of their original players. They may only have 4 committed to Division 1 schools, but there are several others talking to coaches. AND most of that team is sophomores! BRYC has a couple of 02s playing up that are committed! So that places the U-17s I believe at 6 committed to Divsion 1 schools. William and Mary, UConn, Naval Academy, Are the 3 I know of, can’t remember the other 3.

BRYC U17 team is almost the same team as least --- it's not new.

Their coach told the 02s that they should focus on D-2 and D-3 schools because only his only 03 players were good enough for D-1.

This is completely false, 100% BS, My daughter plays on that 02 team... this is what was said, if you are an uncommitted junior, start applying to Mid major schools and not just power 5 schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy that some parents think winning is not important 16+.... College coaches are not going to sit and watch a team that can't win a game. I would look at the amount of coaches that watch McLean and BRYC at 16-17-19 in Greer and Sanford and compare it to what shows up for Loudoun and VDA matches. There is absolutely no reason teams 16+ should not be going on the field to win games. If you are being told other wise run... fast.

Absolutely true. At that point, if a team is getting its ass handed to it game after game, either find another team to play or accept that your child should be playing in a lower division. Players won't get recruited from teams that can't compete.

OK --- then compare the commitments from the Richmond U-17 team (sub 500 win pct) and the BRYC U-17 (about 600 win pct) --- looks that Richmond team is doing just fine in placing girls in higher profile programs that the BRYC team.

BTW: If you think you're kid won't get recruited on a bad ECNL team because nobody watches them, how many coaches do you think come to CCL / NCSL / etc games? And do you think the coaches will be excited about a worse player on a successful CCL / NCSL player.

That's like saying only players from FBS teams will get drafted into the NFL, and if you're not one of those teams, no NFL scout will see you.

BRYC U-17 is basically a new team. They only have 2 of their original players. They may only have 4 committed to Division 1 schools, but there are several others talking to coaches. AND most of that team is sophomores! BRYC has a couple of 02s playing up that are committed! So that places the U-17s I believe at 6 committed to Divsion 1 schools. William and Mary, UConn, Naval Academy, Are the 3 I know of, can’t remember the other 3.

BRYC U17 team is almost the same team as least --- it's not new.

Their coach told the 02s that they should focus on D-2 and D-3 schools because only his only 03 players were good enough for D-1.

This is completely false, 100% BS, My daughter plays on that 02 team... this is what was said, if you are an uncommitted junior, start applying to Mid major schools and not just power 5 schools.

Makes sense, most of those Kids will play D1. Didn't sound right when I read it, a National Playoff team 2 years in a row will be at least 80 percent D1 Kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow how embarrassing to FCV. The girl used to play for FCV and committed to Miami. She then left for McLean ECNL and later committed to Princeton.

So truth stands FCV has no Princeton commits but they sure lied about one! LMAO

Do I have this right:

She was at FCV until FCV switched from ECNL to DA.

She decided not to do DA with FCV, and instead left for McLean and their ECNL team.

She then, with some help from McLean, improved her college offers from Miami to Princeton?


If that is accurate, then that puts a large dent in the FCV parent recruiting propaganda that constantly gets posted on this blog. Maybe ECNL and McLean have something to offer after all . . .

The ACC is the best soccer conference.