Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

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Anonymous wrote:Moving the goalposts again. You are still wrong on your claims for how recruiting works - that coaches only recruiting from winning teams. You are also wrong on which colleges are D1. You lack knowledge of even the basic facts.

Coaches recruit players not teams.

You confused my post with a different poster, who posted earlier. Of course, colleges recruit individual players, but top programs are unlikely to find top players on teams that have poor record. Loudoun's college commitments prove it - not a single player went to a top 50 program. Here are the NCAA rankings for women's soccer programs. JMU is no. 93. Nothing to brag about. https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/ncaa-womens-soccer-rpi

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Anonymous wrote:Moving the goalposts again. You are still wrong on your claims for how recruiting works - that coaches only recruiting from winning teams. You are also wrong on which colleges are D1. You lack knowledge of even the basic facts.

Coaches recruit players not teams.

You confused my post with a different poster, who posted earlier. Of course, colleges recruit individual players, but top programs are unlikely to find top players on teams that have poor record. Loudoun's college commitments prove it - not a single player went to a top 50 program. Here are the NCAA rankings for women's soccer programs. JMU is no. 93. Nothing to brag about. https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/ncaa-womens-soccer-rpi

Playing soccer for any D1 program is a big achievement. It’s much better than you ever did. Nobody who ever played soccer at a high level would disparage someone for getting a soccer scholarship to play D1. It says a lot about you right there and shows you know nothing about soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:Moving the goalposts again. You are still wrong on your claims for how recruiting works - that coaches only recruiting from winning teams. You are also wrong on which colleges are D1. You lack knowledge of even the basic facts.

Coaches recruit players not teams.

You confused my post with a different poster, who posted earlier. Of course, colleges recruit individual players, but top programs are unlikely to find top players on teams that have poor record. Loudoun's college commitments prove it - not a single player went to a top 50 program. Here are the NCAA rankings for women's soccer programs. JMU is no. 93. Nothing to brag about. https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/ncaa-womens-soccer-rpi

Playing soccer for any D1 program is a big achievement. It’s much better than you ever did. Nobody who ever played soccer at a high level would disparage someone for getting a soccer scholarship to play D1. It says a lot about you right there and shows you know nothing about soccer.

Nobody is disparaging anyone. The issue is whether it makes sense to pay $10K+ for ECNL per year to reach this level. There are a lot of players in division 1 programs that came from non-ECNL programs. Their parents paid a fraction of what ECNL or DA parents pay. The point is that it makes no sense to pay such a high premium unless you are trying to get into one of the top programs (either in terms of soccer or academics).

[Anonymous]

No you are wrong. My child plays on DA/ECNL and does so for the love of the game. The level of competition is not the same anywhere else as they get older. She also loves the travel and showcases. We are not thinking college and neither are most teammates. Right now it is all about the fun they experience being part of this.

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If I pay $10K per year for my DD to play top level soccer and she continues to play in college anywhere because she loves the game - that is success in our house.

Don’t play any travel soccer if you are looking for a return on investment. Play for the love of the game.

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So, it is for the love of the game now rather than college coaches scouting ECNL teams? If you are willing to spend so much for the love of the game, hats off to you and I don't have a problem with it. The previous posters were saying that their kids play ECNL to be scouted by division 1 colleges, which is an entirely different reason.

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If you want to get into top programs ECNL still provides the best platform for D1 college recruiting.

Look at Bethesda and McLean for examples of that this year. Head to head they had better D1 placements than any DA club.

DA is a fine choice too but claiming ECNL is not a great platform for college D1 scholarships is clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to get into top programs ECNL still provides the best platform for D1 college recruiting.

Look at Bethesda and McLean for examples of that this year. Head to head they had better D1 placements than any DA club.

DA is a fine choice too but claiming ECNL is not a great platform for college D1 scholarships is clueless.

Those players were all recruited one to two years ago. A full year before DA existed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to get into top programs ECNL still provides the best platform for D1 college recruiting.

Look at Bethesda and McLean for examples of that this year. Head to head they had better D1 placements than any DA club.

DA is a fine choice too but claiming ECNL is not a great platform for college D1 scholarships is clueless.

Those players were all recruited one to two years ago. A full year before DA existed.

Your best players came to your club when it was ECNL. Now that PDA went back to ECNL, does your team still play any good teams? Beating up on Spirit teams and Arlington 6 times a season is not very impressive.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy that some parents think winning is not important 16+.... College coaches are not going to sit and watch a team that can't win a game. I would look at the amount of coaches that watch McLean and BRYC at 16-17-19 in Greer and Sanford and compare it to what shows up for Loudoun and VDA matches. There is absolutely no reason teams 16+ should not be going on the field to win games. If you are being told other wise run... fast.

Absolutely true. At that point, if a team is getting its ass handed to it game after game, either find another team to play or accept that your child should be playing in a lower division. Players won't get recruited from teams that can't compete.

OK --- then compare the commitments from the Richmond U-17 team (sub 500 win pct) and the BRYC U-17 (about 600 win pct) --- looks that Richmond team is doing just fine in placing girls in higher profile programs that the BRYC team.

BTW: If you think you're kid won't get recruited on a bad ECNL team because nobody watches them, how many coaches do you think come to CCL / NCSL / etc games? And do you think the coaches will be excited about a worse player on a successful CCL / NCSL player.

That's like saying only players from FBS teams will get drafted into the NFL, and if you're not one of those teams, no NFL scout will see you.

BRYC U-17 is basically a new team. They only have 2 of their original players. They may only have 4 committed to Division 1 schools, but there are several others talking to coaches. AND most of that team is sophomores! BRYC has a couple of 02s playing up that are committed! So that places the U-17s I believe at 6 committed to Divsion 1 schools. William and Mary, UConn, Naval Academy, Are the 3 I know of, can’t remember the other 3.

BRYC U17 team is almost the same team as least --- it's not new.

It is a 2nd year team......the entire team was redone before 2017-18, so while not entirely new it is not particularly a team that has been together long either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to get into top programs ECNL still provides the best platform for D1 college recruiting.

Look at Bethesda and McLean for examples of that this year. Head to head they had better D1 placements than any DA club.

DA is a fine choice too but claiming ECNL is not a great platform for college D1 scholarships is clueless.

Those players were all recruited one to two years ago. A full year before DA existed.

Your best players came to your club when it was ECNL. Now that PDA went back to ECNL, does your team still play any good teams? Beating up on Spirit teams and Arlington 6 times a season is not very impressive.

And when exactly does BRYC play PDA?

[Anonymous]

Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

https://www.fcvirginia.com/page/show/3158219-college-commitments


Class of 2020


Olivia Migli - Duke
Victoria Haugen - Virginia Tech
Ellie Wheeler - Penn State
Alexis Theoret - UVA
Tori Powell - Virginia Tech
Jenna Daunt - Navy
Carrie McIntire - Wake Forest
Kassidy Borden - Navy
Kenna Zier - William & Mary
Nicole Sellers - William & Mary


Class of 2019

Sydney Ash - Virginia Tech
Cassidy Brown - Virginia Tech
Darrian Burnett - Virginia Tech
Kristina Skulte - Duquesne
Kayleigh Shackford - William & Mary
Madeleine Hayes - William & Mary
Meaghan Bornholdt - Army
Ella Gantman - Princeton
Gretchen Bennett - Boston University
Holly Weber - Virginia Tech
Lauren Sproat - Christopher Newport University
Sarah Philip - West Chester University
Kristen Guiney - Army
Mallory Pasco - Salisbury University
Brianna Robinson - Virginia Wesleyan
Macy Monticello - Univ. of Wisconsin
Savannah Berry - Univ. of Rochester

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

I guess I didn't write that very well. I didn't mean every single FCV 2019 player is going to Virginia Tech. I meant that, of the FCV 2019 players committed to Virginia Tech, not all of them are getting a full ride and may not be getting as much of an athletic scholarship as players at other clubs signing with mid-level D1 schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Getting recruited to be on the roster at a top D1 school is great and all, but how much money do you think those players are really getting? The ones that have been in YNT camps are probably getting a good amount, but don't look at those commitment lists and think that everyone is getting a full ride. Players committing to mid-level D1 schools are probably getting a lot more of their education paid for than every single FCV player going to Virginia Tech. Either use the soccer to get as much of your education paid for as you can, or use it as a hook to get into a dream school.

I agree that not every commitment means a full ride scholarship, but otherwise your post is misleading. It is untrue that the majority of FCV players are going Virginia Tech, which is a good school by the way. FCV players have commitments to many academically strong schools, such as Duke, UVA, William & Mary, Princeton, etc.

I guess I didn't write that very well. I didn't mean every single FCV 2019 player is going to Virginia Tech. I meant that, of the FCV 2019 players committed to Virginia Tech, not all of them are getting a full ride and may not be getting as much of an athletic scholarship as players at other clubs signing with mid-level D1 schools.

Ok, thanks for clarifying it. It is a fair point, if a higher level program gives a partial scholarship and a mid-level program gives a full scholarship.