UVA in-state v. Davidson v. Washington and Lee

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Anonymous wrote:What does he want to study/do with his degree OP?

Is he the kind of kid that will get lost at a bigger school or is he good at getting involved, asserting himself, pursuing opportunities?

One big advantage of the SLACs is that they don't let your kid fail or hide in the back and never interact with professors. That's helped my kid at an SLAC a lot - I think he'd get lost and be invisible at a larger school like UVA. (and he chose his SLAC over being a UVA Echols scholar and I think it's been money well-spent)


He is thinking pre-med. I am less worried about him at the larger school compared to his older siblings, but I agree with you whole-heartedly on the closer student-faculty interaction at SLACs. He will get involved - or so we think. If the costs were comparable it'd be an easier decision to chose the private alternative, but with a six figure difference in the total four year cost, we are obviously torn.


Then I’d absolutely choose UVA. My brother went to Davidson and I never got the impression there is much of a science focus. Go to a university with large research facilities and labs. Also save your money for grad school! It would be one thing if your child was accepted to Harvard. But Davidson? Not worth the premium. Fwiw I’ve also been unimpressed with what Davidson grads have done. While many went to grad school I got the impression it was because they had to. A number of his friends were artists, BS jobs, in non profit, etc. which is fine but not if you’re upper middle class and just paid $280k for your child to attend school and not even end up in a professional career.


This! I've stated this more bluntly elsewhere "The point of college is to get a job" and gotten yelled at by some uppity DCUM'ers! With everything in life, we see value when we part with our money. Why don't we do this as a matter of routine when it comes to college? Boggles the mind.. Every school should be obligated to publish salaries for each undergrad, grad and Phd program - Starting, one year out, 5 years out and 10 years out.


This is an old thread. But if earning money is what you care about, go to W&L, not UVA. It isn't even close:

W&L
- Median Earnings: $77,600
- Expected Earnings (based on majors of graduates and selectivity): $60,400
- Value Add (Median - Expected earnings): $17,200
- 40 year projected NPV (factors costs and income): $1.578M

UVA
- Median Earnings: $58,600
- Expected Earnings: $61,000
- Value Add: Negative $2,400
- 40 year projected NPV: $1.291M

Davidson
- Median Earnings: $58,500
- Expected Earnings: $58,000
- Value Add: $500
- 40 year projected NPV: $1.227M


https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/collegeroi/
https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/college-rankings/#interactive



No, and we toured. Drinking is way out of control. The Greek life predominates everything on campus. W&L is too expensive to begin with - then you have to add in the cost of participating in a frat or sorority. Plus it has Lee's horse. No. Didn't even apply


Well, those may be fine criteria for your decision, but post was in response to someone who said it is a no brainer to attend UVA for financial reasons. The earnings and NPV data doesn't support that.

Interesting that you comment on Lee's horse. Lee himself is buried there.
Anonymous
Well, Lee's horse was whiter than Lee was.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well, Lee's horse was whiter than Lee was.
LOL!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, Lee's horse was whiter than Lee was.
LOL!


Sure. No doubt that horse was racist.
Anonymous
In light of the current economic situation, UVA in-state. No question.
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Anonymous wrote:In light of the current economic situation, UVA in-state. No question.


W&L ROI is much better.
Anonymous
I agree with you but I think OP's kid is a sophomore now.
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Not if you get merit at Davidson or W&L...nobody wants that large of a school because of class size. For sports and frat party, I would say take the state but if you are close to state price with merit or other financial aid, take the smaller school all day, everyday.
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Anonymous wrote:In light of the current economic situation, UVA in-state. No question.


W&L ROI is much better.
False equivalence, which you know if you are affiliated with W&L. First, most W&L students are scions of wealthy southern legacy families who help their students place out into good paying jobs or they use the Greek system to place out into Wall Street or other high paying jobs. Second, as you know, many students at UVA go there to major in lower to middle income careers like teaching, nursing and middle level bureaucrat positions out if the Batten School m. They dedicate their lives to serving community not making money in Wall Street. Third, graduates of W&L are almost always alcoholics which takes its toll later in luge, if the make it to graduation at all ( you don’t want me to post those stories about alcohol related deaths.
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I have heard many tragic tales of how W&L grads failed to make it onto the USA Olympic Luge team because of partying the night before the World Cup.

LOL
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Yes, this brochure is given out at the W&L freshman orientation (along with shot glasses).

file:///C:/Users/Mom/Documents/Personal/9tmstruct%20(1).pdf

Of course, now that will all have to happen online, somehow
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In light of the current economic situation, UVA in-state. No question.


W&L ROI is much better.
False equivalence, which you know if you are affiliated with W&L. First, most W&L students are scions of wealthy southern legacy families who help their students place out into good paying jobs or they use the Greek system to place out into Wall Street or other high paying jobs. Second, as you know, many students at UVA go there to major in lower to middle income careers like teaching, nursing and middle level bureaucrat positions out if the Batten School m. They dedicate their lives to serving community not making money in Wall Street. Third, graduates of W&L are almost always alcoholics which takes its toll later in luge, if the make it to graduation at all ( you don’t want me to post those stories about alcohol related deaths.


Lord you’re a moron. UVA grad?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, this brochure is given out at the W&L freshman orientation (along with shot glasses).

file:///C:/Users/Mom/Documents/Personal/9tmstruct%20(1).pdf

Of course, now that will all have to happen online, somehow


You’re good with computers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, this brochure is given out at the W&L freshman orientation (along with shot glasses).

file:///C:/Users/Mom/Documents/Personal/9tmstruct%20(1).pdf

Of course, now that will all have to happen online, so
mehow


Can't open but truly sad if W&L actually hands out shot-glasses in light of the deaths that took place there due to drinking/ http://www.collegiatetimes.com/news/state/washington-and-lee-students-involved-in-car-accident-killed/article_ec9f1981-01e6-5685-8c3d-6a971bf547ec.html
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