Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?

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Anonymous wrote:If Watkins and SH were doing as well as supporters claim, most of the OOB students who lottery in would be from the Hill. They aren't, not by a long shot, not even in K.

What separates Watkins from Maury, Brent, SWS and Cap Hill Montessori is neighborhood buy-in, weak vs. strong. The issue should be studied, not whitewashed with boosters trilling " Whoo hoo, we're up to 30 percent boundary this year!!"

Watkins has needed more than 3 decades to attract a lower % of neighborhood kids than Maury did between 2012 and this year. Comparative newcomer Mundo Verde is thought to support a student body that's more than half Hill kids.

Hill families have held sway over SWS and CHML due to sibling priority but the seats that open to citywide enrollment are just that. it has nothing to do with neighborhood and everything to do with the schools and manageable commute.

Well sibling preference has also allowed Hill families to take the lion's share of seats at Latin, which is not an easy commute or in the neighborhood.

Not what data says!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Watkins and SH were doing as well as supporters claim, most of the OOB students who lottery in would be from the Hill. They aren't, not by a long shot, not even in K.

What separates Watkins from Maury, Brent, SWS and Cap Hill Montessori is neighborhood buy-in, weak vs. strong. The issue should be studied, not whitewashed with boosters trilling " Whoo hoo, we're up to 30 percent boundary this year!!"

Watkins has needed more than 3 decades to attract a lower % of neighborhood kids than Maury did between 2012 and this year. Comparative newcomer Mundo Verde is thought to support a student body that's more than half Hill kids.

Hill families have held sway over SWS and CHML due to sibling priority but the seats that open to citywide enrollment are just that. it has nothing to do with neighborhood and everything to do with the schools and manageable commute.

Well sibling preference has also allowed Hill families to take the lion's share of seats at Latin, which is not an easy commute or in the neighborhood.

Not what data says!!!

Look at the Latin MS map vs the HS map. page 124 and 125 https://dcpcsb.egnyte.com/dl/6GYs34BeMM

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Anonymous wrote:You seriously don't know the basics after perusing SH threads?

During the 2013-2014 school boundaries and feeders review, school system leaders refused to allow most of the nine DCPS elementary schools on Cap Hill to feed into an enlarged SH, creating a pan-Ward 6 DCPS middle school. DCPS intransigence on the issue was supported by the politically powerful leadership of the Capitol Cluster, both admins and parents (mostly residents Wards 5, 7 and 8), and their allies at the the pro-Cluster Capitol Hill Public School Parents Organization (CHPSPO). Sadly, most Cap Hill parents of little kids would have cheered the change.

Without the strongest Hill DCPS elementary schools--Maury, SWS and Brent--feeding into SH, the school can't improve quickly, catching up to Hardy and possibly Deal in this generation. Ensuring that SH become a predominantly in-boundary and high SES school is now a 10-20 year project, when it could have been a 3-5 year project. Not much more to say.

Agreed. The Cluster PTA president at the time Vince Morris was not helpful at all and inhibited any progess for growing the neighborhood. School safety and school management administrative culture was not his concern. He seems buddy-buddy with Grosso, so that says it all and now here we are with dysfunctional feeder patterns.

The pan-Hill MS concept was never concrete and not favored by DCPS to begin with. DCPS was not going to give any room for an argument to close either Jefferson or Eliot Hine by making SH the central MS.
Look at the proposals that from 2014 that are linked in the sticky at the top of this forum. The DCPS idea was and remains to strengthen each of the Ward 6 MS by reinforcing feeder patterns with a single or pair of "stronger" anchors.

On top of that, the numbers for the feeders in the pan-Hill MS wouldn't work for using SH. That is what CHPSPO argued, if I remember correctly. I'm not Vince but he expressed his position openly - as did the CHCS PTA that the Watkins/LT/JOW feed to SH is the most logical and sustainable.

What about a multi-campus Hill MS with all Hill ES feeding into a modernized Jefferson for 6th grade and a modernized E-H for 7th and 8th grades? With all current Stuart-Hobson feeder ES going to the pan-hill multi-campus MS, the Stuart-Hobson building could be turned into a citywide performing arts MS that feeds into Duke Ellington.

Nice ideas bandied about on DCUM in recent years that are going absolutely nowhere because DCPS leaders, the current mayor, and the DC City Council members aren't on board. Not a one.

The useless Charles Allen claimed to be for a Hill Middle School, but that was just another lie.

I wouldn't be so fast to accuse Charles Allen. The person in charge of the Edu. Comm. at the city Council is yours truly David Grosso. Why don't you call Grosso's office up and try to get a meeting to get your point across and see what kind of reception you get. Do you really think Grosso cares about Capitol Hill families? NOT!

Grosso does care about Hill families but is rightly concerned about equity and isn't going to favor white Hill families at the expense of the broader system. I'm a Hill parent who supports that.

OK, perfect. So how do poor kids benefit when most of the high SES families on the Hill bail from DCPS somewhere between K and 9th grade? What does the "system" get out of the age-old exodus?

I'm a longtime Hill parent who doesn't support bone-headed ed policies that spur the families of the great majority of our strongest students to flee our by-right traditional public schools after 4th grade. Grosso might indeed care, but he isn't nearly logical, pragmatic or competent enough to provide effective leadership of the Edu. Comm. No, he's too busy running down those racist high SES Brent families for avoiding Jefferson Academy. Spare us all his bleeding heart.

Exactly. You want to start fixing DCPS so families stay, then vote out Grosso. His "policies" are not your friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You seriously don't know the basics after perusing SH threads?

During the 2013-2014 school boundaries and feeders review, school system leaders refused to allow most of the nine DCPS elementary schools on Cap Hill to feed into an enlarged SH, creating a pan-Ward 6 DCPS middle school. DCPS intransigence on the issue was supported by the politically powerful leadership of the Capitol Cluster, both admins and parents (mostly residents Wards 5, 7 and 8), and their allies at the the pro-Cluster Capitol Hill Public School Parents Organization (CHPSPO). Sadly, most Cap Hill parents of little kids would have cheered the change.

Without the strongest Hill DCPS elementary schools--Maury, SWS and Brent--feeding into SH, the school can't improve quickly, catching up to Hardy and possibly Deal in this generation. Ensuring that SH become a predominantly in-boundary and high SES school is now a 10-20 year project, when it could have been a 3-5 year project. Not much more to say.

Agreed. The Cluster PTA president at the time Vince Morris was not helpful at all and inhibited any progess for growing the neighborhood. School safety and school management administrative culture was not his concern. He seems buddy-buddy with Grosso, so that says it all and now here we are with dysfunctional feeder patterns.

The pan-Hill MS concept was never concrete and not favored by DCPS to begin with. DCPS was not going to give any room for an argument to close either Jefferson or Eliot Hine by making SH the central MS.
Look at the proposals that from 2014 that are linked in the sticky at the top of this forum. The DCPS idea was and remains to strengthen each of the Ward 6 MS by reinforcing feeder patterns with a single or pair of "stronger" anchors.

On top of that, the numbers for the feeders in the pan-Hill MS wouldn't work for using SH. That is what CHPSPO argued, if I remember correctly. I'm not Vince but he expressed his position openly - as did the CHCS PTA that the Watkins/LT/JOW feed to SH is the most logical and sustainable.

What about a multi-campus Hill MS with all Hill ES feeding into a modernized Jefferson for 6th grade and a modernized E-H for 7th and 8th grades? With all current Stuart-Hobson feeder ES going to the pan-hill multi-campus MS, the Stuart-Hobson building could be turned into a citywide performing arts MS that feeds into Duke Ellington.

Nice ideas bandied about on DCUM in recent years that are going absolutely nowhere because DCPS leaders, the current mayor, and the DC City Council members aren't on board. Not a one.

The useless Charles Allen claimed to be for a Hill Middle School, but that was just another lie.

I wouldn't be so fast to accuse Charles Allen. The person in charge of the Edu. Comm. at the city Council is yours truly David Grosso. Why don't you call Grosso's office up and try to get a meeting to get your point across and see what kind of reception you get. Do you really think Grosso cares about Capitol Hill families? NOT!

Grosso does care about Hill families but is rightly concerned about equity and isn't going to favor white Hill families at the expense of the broader system. I'm a Hill parent who supports that.

OK, perfect. So how do poor kids benefit when most of the high SES families on the Hill bail from DCPS somewhere between K and 9th grade? What does the "system" get out of the age-old exodus?

I'm a longtime Hill parent who doesn't support bone-headed ed policies that spur the families of the great majority of our strongest students to flee our by-right traditional public schools after 4th grade. Grosso might indeed care, but he isn't nearly logical, pragmatic or competent enough to provide effective leadership of the Edu. Comm. No, he's too busy running down those racist high SES Brent families for avoiding Jefferson Academy. Spare us all his bleeding heart.

Exactly. You want to start fixing DCPS so families stay, then vote out Grosso. His "policies" are not your friend.

The success/failure of the school system isn't predicated on white students enrolling. Get over yourself

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You seriously don't know the basics after perusing SH threads?

During the 2013-2014 school boundaries and feeders review, school system leaders refused to allow most of the nine DCPS elementary schools on Cap Hill to feed into an enlarged SH, creating a pan-Ward 6 DCPS middle school. DCPS intransigence on the issue was supported by the politically powerful leadership of the Capitol Cluster, both admins and parents (mostly residents Wards 5, 7 and 8), and their allies at the the pro-Cluster Capitol Hill Public School Parents Organization (CHPSPO). Sadly, most Cap Hill parents of little kids would have cheered the change.

Without the strongest Hill DCPS elementary schools--Maury, SWS and Brent--feeding into SH, the school can't improve quickly, catching up to Hardy and possibly Deal in this generation. Ensuring that SH become a predominantly in-boundary and high SES school is now a 10-20 year project, when it could have been a 3-5 year project. Not much more to say.

Agreed. The Cluster PTA president at the time Vince Morris was not helpful at all and inhibited any progess for growing the neighborhood. School safety and school management administrative culture was not his concern. He seems buddy-buddy with Grosso, so that says it all and now here we are with dysfunctional feeder patterns.

The pan-Hill MS concept was never concrete and not favored by DCPS to begin with. DCPS was not going to give any room for an argument to close either Jefferson or Eliot Hine by making SH the central MS.
Look at the proposals that from 2014 that are linked in the sticky at the top of this forum. The DCPS idea was and remains to strengthen each of the Ward 6 MS by reinforcing feeder patterns with a single or pair of "stronger" anchors.

On top of that, the numbers for the feeders in the pan-Hill MS wouldn't work for using SH. That is what CHPSPO argued, if I remember correctly. I'm not Vince but he expressed his position openly - as did the CHCS PTA that the Watkins/LT/JOW feed to SH is the most logical and sustainable.

What about a multi-campus Hill MS with all Hill ES feeding into a modernized Jefferson for 6th grade and a modernized E-H for 7th and 8th grades? With all current Stuart-Hobson feeder ES going to the pan-hill multi-campus MS, the Stuart-Hobson building could be turned into a citywide performing arts MS that feeds into Duke Ellington.

Nice ideas bandied about on DCUM in recent years that are going absolutely nowhere because DCPS leaders, the current mayor, and the DC City Council members aren't on board. Not a one.

The useless Charles Allen claimed to be for a Hill Middle School, but that was just another lie.

I wouldn't be so fast to accuse Charles Allen. The person in charge of the Edu. Comm. at the city Council is yours truly David Grosso. Why don't you call Grosso's office up and try to get a meeting to get your point across and see what kind of reception you get. Do you really think Grosso cares about Capitol Hill families? NOT!

Grosso does care about Hill families but is rightly concerned about equity and isn't going to favor white Hill families at the expense of the broader system. I'm a Hill parent who supports that.

OK, perfect. So how do poor kids benefit when most of the high SES families on the Hill bail from DCPS somewhere between K and 9th grade? What does the "system" get out of the age-old exodus?

I'm a longtime Hill parent who doesn't support bone-headed ed policies that spur the families of the great majority of our strongest students to flee our by-right traditional public schools after 4th grade. Grosso might indeed care, but he isn't nearly logical, pragmatic or competent enough to provide effective leadership of the Edu. Comm. No, he's too busy running down those racist high SES Brent families for avoiding Jefferson Academy. Spare us all his bleeding heart.

Exactly. You want to start fixing DCPS so families stay, then vote out Grosso. His "policies" are not your friend.

The success/failure of the school system isn't predicated on white students enrolling. Get over yourself

And the trajectory of other Hill schools is on the right track. While Brent has continued to be a strong school. So if his job is to improve education across all sectors, and not just your yoga class, then he's executing on task.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You seriously don't know the basics after perusing SH threads?

During the 2013-2014 school boundaries and feeders review, school system leaders refused to allow most of the nine DCPS elementary schools on Cap Hill to feed into an enlarged SH, creating a pan-Ward 6 DCPS middle school. DCPS intransigence on the issue was supported by the politically powerful leadership of the Capitol Cluster, both admins and parents (mostly residents Wards 5, 7 and 8), and their allies at the the pro-Cluster Capitol Hill Public School Parents Organization (CHPSPO). Sadly, most Cap Hill parents of little kids would have cheered the change.

Without the strongest Hill DCPS elementary schools--Maury, SWS and Brent--feeding into SH, the school can't improve quickly, catching up to Hardy and possibly Deal in this generation. Ensuring that SH become a predominantly in-boundary and high SES school is now a 10-20 year project, when it could have been a 3-5 year project. Not much more to say.

Agreed. The Cluster PTA president at the time Vince Morris was not helpful at all and inhibited any progess for growing the neighborhood. School safety and school management administrative culture was not his concern. He seems buddy-buddy with Grosso, so that says it all and now here we are with dysfunctional feeder patterns.

The pan-Hill MS concept was never concrete and not favored by DCPS to begin with. DCPS was not going to give any room for an argument to close either Jefferson or Eliot Hine by making SH the central MS.
Look at the proposals that from 2014 that are linked in the sticky at the top of this forum. The DCPS idea was and remains to strengthen each of the Ward 6 MS by reinforcing feeder patterns with a single or pair of "stronger" anchors.

On top of that, the numbers for the feeders in the pan-Hill MS wouldn't work for using SH. That is what CHPSPO argued, if I remember correctly. I'm not Vince but he expressed his position openly - as did the CHCS PTA that the Watkins/LT/JOW feed to SH is the most logical and sustainable.

What about a multi-campus Hill MS with all Hill ES feeding into a modernized Jefferson for 6th grade and a modernized E-H for 7th and 8th grades? With all current Stuart-Hobson feeder ES going to the pan-hill multi-campus MS, the Stuart-Hobson building could be turned into a citywide performing arts MS that feeds into Duke Ellington.

Nice ideas bandied about on DCUM in recent years that are going absolutely nowhere because DCPS leaders, the current mayor, and the DC City Council members aren't on board. Not a one.

The useless Charles Allen claimed to be for a Hill Middle School, but that was just another lie.

I wouldn't be so fast to accuse Charles Allen. The person in charge of the Edu. Comm. at the city Council is yours truly David Grosso. Why don't you call Grosso's office up and try to get a meeting to get your point across and see what kind of reception you get. Do you really think Grosso cares about Capitol Hill families? NOT!

Grosso does care about Hill families but is rightly concerned about equity and isn't going to favor white Hill families at the expense of the broader system. I'm a Hill parent who supports that.

OK, perfect. So how do poor kids benefit when most of the high SES families on the Hill bail from DCPS somewhere between K and 9th grade? What does the "system" get out of the age-old exodus?

I'm a longtime Hill parent who doesn't support bone-headed ed policies that spur the families of the great majority of our strongest students to flee our by-right traditional public schools after 4th grade. Grosso might indeed care, but he isn't nearly logical, pragmatic or competent enough to provide effective leadership of the Edu. Comm. No, he's too busy running down those racist high SES Brent families for avoiding Jefferson Academy. Spare us all his bleeding heart.

Exactly. You want to start fixing DCPS so families stay, then vote out Grosso. His "policies" are not your friend.

The success/failure of the school system isn't predicated on white students enrolling. Get over yourself

And even if it WERE, more white students are enrolling - at Hardy, and at Hill schools. Just not fast enough for the "I want it NOW" contingent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You seriously don't know the basics after perusing SH threads?

During the 2013-2014 school boundaries and feeders review, school system leaders refused to allow most of the nine DCPS elementary schools on Cap Hill to feed into an enlarged SH, creating a pan-Ward 6 DCPS middle school. DCPS intransigence on the issue was supported by the politically powerful leadership of the Capitol Cluster, both admins and parents (mostly residents Wards 5, 7 and 8), and their allies at the the pro-Cluster Capitol Hill Public School Parents Organization (CHPSPO). Sadly, most Cap Hill parents of little kids would have cheered the change.

Without the strongest Hill DCPS elementary schools--Maury, SWS and Brent--feeding into SH, the school can't improve quickly, catching up to Hardy and possibly Deal in this generation. Ensuring that SH become a predominantly in-boundary and high SES school is now a 10-20 year project, when it could have been a 3-5 year project. Not much more to say.

Agreed. The Cluster PTA president at the time Vince Morris was not helpful at all and inhibited any progess for growing the neighborhood. School safety and school management administrative culture was not his concern. He seems buddy-buddy with Grosso, so that says it all and now here we are with dysfunctional feeder patterns.

The pan-Hill MS concept was never concrete and not favored by DCPS to begin with. DCPS was not going to give any room for an argument to close either Jefferson or Eliot Hine by making SH the central MS.
Look at the proposals that from 2014 that are linked in the sticky at the top of this forum. The DCPS idea was and remains to strengthen each of the Ward 6 MS by reinforcing feeder patterns with a single or pair of "stronger" anchors.

On top of that, the numbers for the feeders in the pan-Hill MS wouldn't work for using SH. That is what CHPSPO argued, if I remember correctly. I'm not Vince but he expressed his position openly - as did the CHCS PTA that the Watkins/LT/JOW feed to SH is the most logical and sustainable.

What about a multi-campus Hill MS with all Hill ES feeding into a modernized Jefferson for 6th grade and a modernized E-H for 7th and 8th grades? With all current Stuart-Hobson feeder ES going to the pan-hill multi-campus MS, the Stuart-Hobson building could be turned into a citywide performing arts MS that feeds into Duke Ellington.

Nice ideas bandied about on DCUM in recent years that are going absolutely nowhere because DCPS leaders, the current mayor, and the DC City Council members aren't on board. Not a one.

The useless Charles Allen claimed to be for a Hill Middle School, but that was just another lie.

I wouldn't be so fast to accuse Charles Allen. The person in charge of the Edu. Comm. at the city Council is yours truly David Grosso. Why don't you call Grosso's office up and try to get a meeting to get your point across and see what kind of reception you get. Do you really think Grosso cares about Capitol Hill families? NOT!

Grosso does care about Hill families but is rightly concerned about equity and isn't going to favor white Hill families at the expense of the broader system. I'm a Hill parent who supports that.

OK, perfect. So how do poor kids benefit when most of the high SES families on the Hill bail from DCPS somewhere between K and 9th grade? What does the "system" get out of the age-old exodus?

I'm a longtime Hill parent who doesn't support bone-headed ed policies that spur the families of the great majority of our strongest students to flee our by-right traditional public schools after 4th grade. Grosso might indeed care, but he isn't nearly logical, pragmatic or competent enough to provide effective leadership of the Edu. Comm. No, he's too busy running down those racist high SES Brent families for avoiding Jefferson Academy. Spare us all his bleeding heart.

Exactly. You want to start fixing DCPS so families stay, then vote out Grosso. His "policies" are not your friend.

The success/failure of the school system isn't predicated on white students enrolling. Get over yourself

There are many high SES black and Asians families on the Hill, racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You seriously don't know the basics after perusing SH threads?

During the 2013-2014 school boundaries and feeders review, school system leaders refused to allow most of the nine DCPS elementary schools on Cap Hill to feed into an enlarged SH, creating a pan-Ward 6 DCPS middle school. DCPS intransigence on the issue was supported by the politically powerful leadership of the Capitol Cluster, both admins and parents (mostly residents Wards 5, 7 and 8), and their allies at the the pro-Cluster Capitol Hill Public School Parents Organization (CHPSPO). Sadly, most Cap Hill parents of little kids would have cheered the change.

Without the strongest Hill DCPS elementary schools--Maury, SWS and Brent--feeding into SH, the school can't improve quickly, catching up to Hardy and possibly Deal in this generation. Ensuring that SH become a predominantly in-boundary and high SES school is now a 10-20 year project, when it could have been a 3-5 year project. Not much more to say.

Agreed. The Cluster PTA president at the time Vince Morris was not helpful at all and inhibited any progess for growing the neighborhood. School safety and school management administrative culture was not his concern. He seems buddy-buddy with Grosso, so that says it all and now here we are with dysfunctional feeder patterns.

The pan-Hill MS concept was never concrete and not favored by DCPS to begin with. DCPS was not going to give any room for an argument to close either Jefferson or Eliot Hine by making SH the central MS.
Look at the proposals that from 2014 that are linked in the sticky at the top of this forum. The DCPS idea was and remains to strengthen each of the Ward 6 MS by reinforcing feeder patterns with a single or pair of "stronger" anchors.

On top of that, the numbers for the feeders in the pan-Hill MS wouldn't work for using SH. That is what CHPSPO argued, if I remember correctly. I'm not Vince but he expressed his position openly - as did the CHCS PTA that the Watkins/LT/JOW feed to SH is the most logical and sustainable.

What about a multi-campus Hill MS with all Hill ES feeding into a modernized Jefferson for 6th grade and a modernized E-H for 7th and 8th grades? With all current Stuart-Hobson feeder ES going to the pan-hill multi-campus MS, the Stuart-Hobson building could be turned into a citywide performing arts MS that feeds into Duke Ellington.

Nice ideas bandied about on DCUM in recent years that are going absolutely nowhere because DCPS leaders, the current mayor, and the DC City Council members aren't on board. Not a one.

The useless Charles Allen claimed to be for a Hill Middle School, but that was just another lie.

I wouldn't be so fast to accuse Charles Allen. The person in charge of the Edu. Comm. at the city Council is yours truly David Grosso. Why don't you call Grosso's office up and try to get a meeting to get your point across and see what kind of reception you get. Do you really think Grosso cares about Capitol Hill families? NOT!

Grosso does care about Hill families but is rightly concerned about equity and isn't going to favor white Hill families at the expense of the broader system. I'm a Hill parent who supports that.

OK, perfect. So how do poor kids benefit when most of the high SES families on the Hill bail from DCPS somewhere between K and 9th grade? What does the "system" get out of the age-old exodus?

I'm a longtime Hill parent who doesn't support bone-headed ed policies that spur the families of the great majority of our strongest students to flee our by-right traditional public schools after 4th grade. Grosso might indeed care, but he isn't nearly logical, pragmatic or competent enough to provide effective leadership of the Edu. Comm. No, he's too busy running down those racist high SES Brent families for avoiding Jefferson Academy. Spare us all his bleeding heart.

Exactly. You want to start fixing DCPS so families stay, then vote out Grosso. His "policies" are not your friend.

The success/failure of the school system isn't predicated on white students enrolling. Get over yourself

There are many high SES black and Asians families on the Hill, racist.

You're as factually challenged as you are ignorant. How exactly are there "many" Asian families in a system where 96% of students are black (62%), white (14%) or Hispanic (20%)??? And of course that 4% includes all 'Other' including multiracial and all of DC not just the Hill where it likely skews even whiter and less Asian than upper NW. Over 3/4 of all DCPS students are economically disadvantaged too. I'd encourage you to do the math but I'm guess math and many other things aren't your strengths.

As for that race card -- I'll toss it right back in your face. The "SES" is barely coded for WHITE on DCUM -- ignoramuses like you think it gives you a license as a qualifier to say stupid racist stuff (are the 'good ones' OK if they're in your tax bracket?).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You seriously don't know the basics after perusing SH threads?

During the 2013-2014 school boundaries and feeders review, school system leaders refused to allow most of the nine DCPS elementary schools on Cap Hill to feed into an enlarged SH, creating a pan-Ward 6 DCPS middle school. DCPS intransigence on the issue was supported by the politically powerful leadership of the Capitol Cluster, both admins and parents (mostly residents Wards 5, 7 and 8), and their allies at the the pro-Cluster Capitol Hill Public School Parents Organization (CHPSPO). Sadly, most Cap Hill parents of little kids would have cheered the change.

Without the strongest Hill DCPS elementary schools--Maury, SWS and Brent--feeding into SH, the school can't improve quickly, catching up to Hardy and possibly Deal in this generation. Ensuring that SH become a predominantly in-boundary and high SES school is now a 10-20 year project, when it could have been a 3-5 year project. Not much more to say.

Agreed. The Cluster PTA president at the time Vince Morris was not helpful at all and inhibited any progess for growing the neighborhood. School safety and school management administrative culture was not his concern. He seems buddy-buddy with Grosso, so that says it all and now here we are with dysfunctional feeder patterns.

The pan-Hill MS concept was never concrete and not favored by DCPS to begin with. DCPS was not going to give any room for an argument to close either Jefferson or Eliot Hine by making SH the central MS.
Look at the proposals that from 2014 that are linked in the sticky at the top of this forum. The DCPS idea was and remains to strengthen each of the Ward 6 MS by reinforcing feeder patterns with a single or pair of "stronger" anchors.

On top of that, the numbers for the feeders in the pan-Hill MS wouldn't work for using SH. That is what CHPSPO argued, if I remember correctly. I'm not Vince but he expressed his position openly - as did the CHCS PTA that the Watkins/LT/JOW feed to SH is the most logical and sustainable.

What about a multi-campus Hill MS with all Hill ES feeding into a modernized Jefferson for 6th grade and a modernized E-H for 7th and 8th grades? With all current Stuart-Hobson feeder ES going to the pan-hill multi-campus MS, the Stuart-Hobson building could be turned into a citywide performing arts MS that feeds into Duke Ellington.

Nice ideas bandied about on DCUM in recent years that are going absolutely nowhere because DCPS leaders, the current mayor, and the DC City Council members aren't on board. Not a one.

The useless Charles Allen claimed to be for a Hill Middle School, but that was just another lie.

I wouldn't be so fast to accuse Charles Allen. The person in charge of the Edu. Comm. at the city Council is yours truly David Grosso. Why don't you call Grosso's office up and try to get a meeting to get your point across and see what kind of reception you get. Do you really think Grosso cares about Capitol Hill families? NOT!

Grosso does care about Hill families but is rightly concerned about equity and isn't going to favor white Hill families at the expense of the broader system. I'm a Hill parent who supports that.

OK, perfect. So how do poor kids benefit when most of the high SES families on the Hill bail from DCPS somewhere between K and 9th grade? What does the "system" get out of the age-old exodus?

I'm a longtime Hill parent who doesn't support bone-headed ed policies that spur the families of the great majority of our strongest students to flee our by-right traditional public schools after 4th grade. Grosso might indeed care, but he isn't nearly logical, pragmatic or competent enough to provide effective leadership of the Edu. Comm. No, he's too busy running down those racist high SES Brent families for avoiding Jefferson Academy. Spare us all his bleeding heart.

Exactly. You want to start fixing DCPS so families stay, then vote out Grosso. His "policies" are not your friend.

The success/failure of the school system isn't predicated on white students enrolling. Get over yourself

There are many high SES black and Asians families on the Hill, racist.

Funny, when uptight Peabody parents look over kids from our Watkins class and see mainly AA faces, they don't seem to pick out my high SES black child from the crowd. But they always ask about "neighborhood buy-in" and "retention" after their look-see.

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^^ not to dispute the amount of a$$hat racists on here, but there aren’t that many high SES black folks on the Hill, so don’t be surprised that your child is unicorn.

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Anonymous wrote:You seriously don't know the basics after perusing SH threads?

During the 2013-2014 school boundaries and feeders review, school system leaders refused to allow most of the nine DCPS elementary schools on Cap Hill to feed into an enlarged SH, creating a pan-Ward 6 DCPS middle school. DCPS intransigence on the issue was supported by the politically powerful leadership of the Capitol Cluster, both admins and parents (mostly residents Wards 5, 7 and 8), and their allies at the the pro-Cluster Capitol Hill Public School Parents Organization (CHPSPO). Sadly, most Cap Hill parents of little kids would have cheered the change.

Without the strongest Hill DCPS elementary schools--Maury, SWS and Brent--feeding into SH, the school can't improve quickly, catching up to Hardy and possibly Deal in this generation. Ensuring that SH become a predominantly in-boundary and high SES school is now a 10-20 year project, when it could have been a 3-5 year project. Not much more to say.

Agreed. The Cluster PTA president at the time Vince Morris was not helpful at all and inhibited any progess for growing the neighborhood. School safety and school management administrative culture was not his concern. He seems buddy-buddy with Grosso, so that says it all and now here we are with dysfunctional feeder patterns.

The pan-Hill MS concept was never concrete and not favored by DCPS to begin with. DCPS was not going to give any room for an argument to close either Jefferson or Eliot Hine by making SH the central MS.
Look at the proposals that from 2014 that are linked in the sticky at the top of this forum. The DCPS idea was and remains to strengthen each of the Ward 6 MS by reinforcing feeder patterns with a single or pair of "stronger" anchors.

On top of that, the numbers for the feeders in the pan-Hill MS wouldn't work for using SH. That is what CHPSPO argued, if I remember correctly. I'm not Vince but he expressed his position openly - as did the CHCS PTA that the Watkins/LT/JOW feed to SH is the most logical and sustainable.

What about a multi-campus Hill MS with all Hill ES feeding into a modernized Jefferson for 6th grade and a modernized E-H for 7th and 8th grades? With all current Stuart-Hobson feeder ES going to the pan-hill multi-campus MS, the Stuart-Hobson building could be turned into a citywide performing arts MS that feeds into Duke Ellington.

Nice ideas bandied about on DCUM in recent years that are going absolutely nowhere because DCPS leaders, the current mayor, and the DC City Council members aren't on board. Not a one.

The useless Charles Allen claimed to be for a Hill Middle School, but that was just another lie.

I wouldn't be so fast to accuse Charles Allen. The person in charge of the Edu. Comm. at the city Council is yours truly David Grosso. Why don't you call Grosso's office up and try to get a meeting to get your point across and see what kind of reception you get. Do you really think Grosso cares about Capitol Hill families? NOT!

Grosso does care about Hill families but is rightly concerned about equity and isn't going to favor white Hill families at the expense of the broader system. I'm a Hill parent who supports that.

OK, perfect. So how do poor kids benefit when most of the high SES families on the Hill bail from DCPS somewhere between K and 9th grade? What does the "system" get out of the age-old exodus?

I'm a longtime Hill parent who doesn't support bone-headed ed policies that spur the families of the great majority of our strongest students to flee our by-right traditional public schools after 4th grade. Grosso might indeed care, but he isn't nearly logical, pragmatic or competent enough to provide effective leadership of the Edu. Comm. No, he's too busy running down those racist high SES Brent families for avoiding Jefferson Academy. Spare us all his bleeding heart.

Exactly. You want to start fixing DCPS so families stay, then vote out Grosso. His "policies" are not your friend.

The success/failure of the school system isn't predicated on white students enrolling. Get over yourself

There are many high SES black and Asians families on the Hill, racist.

You're as factually challenged as you are ignorant. How exactly are there "many" Asian families in a system where 96% of students are black (62%), white (14%) or Hispanic (20%)??? And of course that 4% includes all 'Other' including multiracial and all of DC not just the Hill where it likely skews even whiter and less Asian than upper NW. Over 3/4 of all DCPS students are economically disadvantaged too. I'd encourage you to do the math but I'm guess math and many other things aren't your strengths.

As for that race card -- I'll toss it right back in your face. The "SES" is barely coded for WHITE on DCUM -- ignoramuses like you think it gives you a license as a qualifier to say stupid racist stuff (are the 'good ones' OK if they're in your tax bracket?).

I said “on the Hill.” Learn to read. I know many black and Asian families of means ON THE HILL. Almost all of them are opting out of DCPS.

[Anonymous]

The Hill has no agreed on boundaries.

If we use Ward 6 as a rough proxy -- the 2015 census data tell us that the demographics are 51% white, 35% black, 4% Asian, 6% Latino, 2% mixed.

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/61000US11006-ward-6-dc/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Hill has no agreed on boundaries.

If we use Ward 6 as a rough proxy -- the 2015 census data tell us that the demographics are 51% white, 35% black, 4% Asian, 6% Latino, 2% mixed.

https://censusreporter.org/profiles/61000US11006-ward-6-dc/

Ward 6 is not a rough proxy for the Hill. For someone who keeps shrieking about “data” you sure do like to play fast and loose with it.

[Anonymous]

Ward 6 is no longer a good proxy for the Hill, whatever boundaries you go with.

Currently, the Hill proper has to be at least 15% more white than Ward 6 in its entirety, along with more Asian and less AA.

The 2020 census demographics for the Hill will be an eye opener.

[Anonymous]

As an Asian person living on the Hill for the past 20 years, there is a marked increase in presence. In the past, I could go months without seeing another Asian person walking around. Some days, I see three or four Asians. It may not mean anything to you, but for those paying attention, there has been a noticeable increase.