What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the exchange before running into this thread, I don't see how anyone could think that Acosta won the exchange. Very clearly Miller had the upper hand in factual knowledge, historical context, and logic.

Exactly the conclusion I came to, and I watched this exchange twice. Acosta came off as whiny, pouty, and clearly out of his league.

Miller may have convinced you with his presentation, but he was mistaken.

And many of us would say it's you who is mistaken. Fortunately, we're all allowed to draw our own conclusions and don't need to be preached to by those who would label everyone else "white nationalists."

So you wish to embrace alternative facts in coming to your conclusions.

Winning.

You're actually still using "winning"?

I guess sarcasm escapes you.

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is that McMaster and Kelly sent Miller out there to make an ass out of himself, nip this ill-thought-out immigration plan in the bud, and hopefully also get him shit-canned.

Love those generals.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the lefty drones use liberally the word "White Nationalists agenda" all the while Miller agreed with April Ryan on the need to help the African American community before the immigrants. Why would a White Nationalist say that to an AA reporter?

Exactly. But that's a logical point. Liberals aren't good with logic. It confuses them and they resort to calling names.

So you are ok with the alt-white rhetoric espoused by Mr. Miller?

NP - unless you provide links, this means nothing.

Did you come in at the end of the thread? There are links.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the lefty drones use liberally the word "White Nationalists agenda" all the while Miller agreed with April Ryan on the need to help the African American community before the immigrants. Why would a White Nationalist say that to an AA reporter?

Exactly. But that's a logical point. Liberals aren't good with logic. It confuses them and they resort to calling names.

So you are ok with the alt-white rhetoric espoused by Mr. Miller?

He did not espouse any alt-white rhetoric. In fact, he called out Acosta for his simple-minded assumption that the only English speakers would come from the UK, Australia, etc. And Miller was correct in calling Acosta out.

If you want to slap the "alt-right" label on anyone with whom you disagree, that only makes you look stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the lefty drones use liberally the word "White Nationalists agenda" all the while Miller agreed with April Ryan on the need to help the African American community before the immigrants. Why would a White Nationalist say that to an AA reporter?

Exactly. But that's a logical point. Liberals aren't good with logic. It confuses them and they resort to calling names.

So you are ok with the alt-white rhetoric espoused by Mr. Miller?

NP - unless you provide links, this means nothing.

Did you come in at the end of the thread? There are links.

DP. Those links don't show any alt-white rhetoric at all, though I know you think if you keep repeating these accusations, they'll be believed. How absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how the lefty drones use liberally the word "White Nationalists agenda" all the while Miller agreed with April Ryan on the need to help the African American community before the immigrants. Why would a White Nationalist say that to an AA reporter?

Exactly. But that's a logical point. Liberals aren't good with logic. It confuses them and they resort to calling names.

So you are ok with the alt-white rhetoric espoused by Mr. Miller?

He did not espouse any alt-white rhetoric. In fact, he called out Acosta for his simple-minded assumption that the only English speakers would come from the UK, Australia, etc. And Miller was correct in calling Acosta out.

If you want to slap the "alt-right" label on anyone with whom you disagree, that only makes you look stupid.

You didn't watch the whole presser then.

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Anonymous wrote:My liberal compatriots: stop defending Jim Acosta - the guy made a stupid and utterly idiotic remark about the British and Australians being the ones who speak English. What he was trying to do was to suggest that the policy was racist and he used a rationale that was nonsensical.

I am just amazed that anyone rationalizes Acosta's rant.

I obviously did not vote for Trump and I think Miller's motivations are questionable but I watched the news conference and he was intellectually head and shoulders above the likes of Acosta. Miller went to Duke and Acosta to JMU - colleges don't always tell everything about intellectual prowess but in this case, I think it does tell the story.

a) you're not a liberal

b) yes, it was a stupid remark, which is why it was dumb to treat it like a REAL remark. Miller isn't "showing him up" by acting like Acosta is completely ignorant, when he just said something off-the-cuff that was not well thought out.

I was a liberal more than likely before you were born.

Yes, Acosta may have inadvertently said something dumb but then the answer would be to just acknowledge it and focus on why someone who does not speak English should be ruled out given that there are millions who have come to this country and then learned English.

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https://thinkprogress.org/stephen-miller-attacks-statue-of-liberty-poem-echoing-popular-white-nationalist-talking-point-f90c2ae0be48/


Stormfront.org, a popular website among white supremacists that boasts the tagline, “Every month is White history month,” has a numerous discussion threads on the topic, including one titled, “Give Me Your Huddled Masses?—?The Jewess who tried to destroy the US!” Contributors to the forum wrote the poem should be “considered graffiti” and stress that Lazarus’ sonnet is “not part of the original” statue at all.

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Just one example-tor most people, his statement about the statue of liberty was just a "huh, wtf is he talking about?" moment.

For neo-nazis, he was ringing a bell.

Other people who have made the same exact, nutso argument: David Duke (wrote entire chapter about it), Stormfront, and everyone's most punchable Nazi,
Richard Spencer.
Stormfront

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Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with the way canada, australia, switzerland do immigration?

Our country is very different. Do we want to be Canada, Australia, Switzerland? No. Then why do we want their immigration system?

As a percent of total population, Canada already lets in many more immigrants than the US does. So if we want to do immigration Canada-style, we should be increasing the numbers. Not sharply curtailing them, as this bill would do.

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Anonymous wrote:My liberal compatriots: stop defending Jim Acosta - the guy made a stupid and utterly idiotic remark about the British and Australians being the ones who speak English. What he was trying to do was to suggest that the policy was racist and he used a rationale that was nonsensical.

I am just amazed that anyone rationalizes Acosta's rant.

I obviously did not vote for Trump and I think Miller's motivations are questionable but I watched the news conference and he was intellectually head and shoulders above the likes of Acosta. Miller went to Duke and Acosta to JMU - colleges don't always tell everything about intellectual prowess but in this case, I think it does tell the story.

a) you're not a liberal

b) yes, it was a stupid remark, which is why it was dumb to treat it like a REAL remark. Miller isn't "showing him up" by acting like Acosta is completely ignorant, when he just said something off-the-cuff that was not well thought out.

I was a liberal more than likely before you were born.

Yes, Acosta may have inadvertently said something dumb but then the answer would be to just acknowledge it and focus on why someone who does not speak English should be ruled out given that there are millions who have come to this country and then learned English.

So it's the Granny "As a liberal" troll.

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Anonymous wrote:https://thinkprogress.org/stephen-miller-attacks-statue-of-liberty-poem-echoing-popular-white-nationalist-talking-point-f90c2ae0be48/


Stormfront.org, a popular website among white supremacists that boasts the tagline, “Every month is White history month,” has a numerous discussion threads on the topic, including one titled, “Give Me Your Huddled Masses?—?The Jewess who tried to destroy the US!” Contributors to the forum wrote the poem should be “considered graffiti” and stress that Lazarus’ sonnet is “not part of the original” statue at all.

This is comical at best...

- Miller speaks and the White Supremacists tweet doesn't equate to Miller being a White Nationalists.

- Miller (a Jew) would be considered the enemy of the White Supremacists.

Point out real links that Miller actually espoused White Nationalist comments or go home.

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is that McMaster and Kelly sent Miller out there to make an ass out of himself, nip this ill-thought-out immigration plan in the bud, and hopefully also get him shit-canned.

The question is ... are they evil geniuses or just evil?

Neither, hopefully they are trying to do the right thing. They knew Miller would slip up and start using his Nazi rhetoric and hoped the outcry would be enough to get him axed.

Yep, they are canning the WH Breitbart nutters with military precision. They're coming for you, Steven!

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Anonymous wrote:My liberal compatriots: stop defending Jim Acosta - the guy made a stupid and utterly idiotic remark about the British and Australians being the ones who speak English. What he was trying to do was to suggest that the policy was racist and he used a rationale that was nonsensical.

I am just amazed that anyone rationalizes Acosta's rant.

I obviously did not vote for Trump and I think Miller's motivations are questionable but I watched the news conference and he was intellectually head and shoulders above the likes of Acosta. Miller went to Duke and Acosta to JMU - colleges don't always tell everything about intellectual prowess but in this case, I think it does tell the story.

I completely agree with you. Except for one thing - are you the poster who keeps bring up where they each went to college? If so, you're making it pretty obvious you (or your kid) didn't get into JMU and you're still bitter. Otherwise, why the insistence on putting down a good school? You're not exactly making liberals more appealing.

I don't think I have ever brought where one attends college up in posts previously because, in part, I have worked with people who went to less than stellar schools and they have been pretty sharp and competent. But the reality is that the better schools are more demanding when it comes to admission in relation to academic standards. Acosta showed that he could not think quickly on his feet and more to the point, he was reflecting his own bias as a reporter because he believes - probably correctly - that there is a racist component to the new immigration proposal.

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I'm waiting for the news story outing Miller as a poster on the reddit red pill forum. I've wagered 10 bucks on it with DH.