Hijab/headscarf for Muslims
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Anonymous
Presumably the "why" is because the Hadith tell her to, making it a religious requirement among those who put their trust in that hadith. You should have a talk with a statistician about Type 1 and Type 2 hypothesis errors. |
Anonymous
No one looking at that billboard approaches it with a statistician mindset. People don't look at things in everyday life that way. No, that's not the why. The hadith tells her she should. The why is up to her. She can come up with whatever theory, and she does. You know perfectly well that's what theologists do in every religion - they come up with stories about the meaning of requirements. |
Anonymous
There can NOT be any scientific caliber evidence in this case. It's a theory, as good as any. |
Anonymous
It's not as good as any if there's zero evidence for it. It's speculation presented as fact, which just seems wrong. |
Anonymous
That's all religion is. A speculation. "Jesus is waiting" is also a speculation for which there is no evidence. You're looking for proof where none can be had. |
Anonymous
That's a non sequitur, start your own thread. Has nothing to do with evidence, or rather the lack thereof, about historical reasons for veiling. |
Anonymous
Yup. Virginia has a law prohibiting wearing ski masks and other face coverings in public. Other states do as well. Obviously, not enforced so much, but police could arrest a niqab wearer to enforce the law. Some banks will not allow niqab wearers to enter, but that is a bit different as it is private property and they can make up their own rules just as a restaurant can refuse to serve a man not wearing a jacket. There have been bank robberies in which the robbers have disguised themselves in niqab to avoid identification on the security cams. |
Anonymous
History has nothing to do with this. |
Anonymous
You just want to argue. How boring. (But duh. If you're making a statement about historical figures, then yeah, it's all about having primary sources. So Paul's letters from a few decades after Christ would work, or Hadith. That is, in lieu of any statements from actual women of the time. But your "feelings" about how women 2000 years ago "might have felt" is so bogus. Snort.) |
Anonymous
| I dont mind the hijab though i see some take it off when they go on dates with non muslim men so i dont think it realy means anything to some but to others who dont want a man to see their hair it means more to them. When i see someone in a burka it makes me think of their home countries and how religous they must be and how sad because i think it makes them less friendly. Same thing when i see someone wear a muslim bathing suit covered from the neck down going in the water as their husband wears shorts |
Anonymous
| I am a Christian who values modesty, so am sympathetic to not showing it all off, BUT I have a hard time taking attempts at modesty seriously when the women are well covered and the men have on shorts and teeshirts ( on a 100 degree day). What is good for the goose is good for the gander! |
Anonymous
Uh-huh. It's boring. But somehow you continue to respond, go figure. I'm just amused watching you trying So Hard to apply standards of evidence to the field of bullshit legends called religion. |
Anonymous
And the rest of us find it really tedious that someone who has no agenda but to insult religion as a "fantasy" thinks it makes any kind of sense that a 21st century atheist chick like herself can get in the heads of religious women who lived a couple thousand years ago. Fantasy and legend indeed. Go away. |
Anonymous
| I am Muslim, and I do not wear hijab. My mother does not wear hijab. My father never encouraged me to wear hijab. In fact, he was very against it. There is a classist element in the Muslim world. The Arab, East Asian, and African elites (with their fancy American educations and Euro vacations) look down on hijab as a working class symbol. I run away from any man who says he wants me to wear hijab. I know many Muslim women who did not wear one at all when single, but started wearing it after marriage and a first kid at the request of a husband. It makes me sad because I know they miss dressing up or down the way they used to. |
Anonymous
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Come on, folks. We've all seen these photos. After the Shah was overthrown, women were set back decades. They began protesting. Look at their Westernized clothing. What has happened ever since?
brainwashing Head coverings have been used to either subjugate women or to separate them by class. The more elaborate the material, the higher the social class. 
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