TO THE MOM WHO RED SHIRTED HER SON AND COMPLAINS HE'S NOT CHALLENGED

[Anonymous]

The cutoff is strange here in VA. My friends in NY with kids with fall birthday send their kids to school. Redshirting seems less frequent. If you were born in the calendar year, your kid goes to school whether s/he is 4 or 5. I can't recall anyone holding back a summer birthday.

[Anonymous]

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The line isn't that bright, PP. A lot of parents don't discover a child has special needs like dyslexia until they start school or they might suspect some special needs and hold their child back and realize later that their child does not have the issues they thought they might. There are also parents who may suspect their child has issues but never get a diagnosis. What is "totally normal" in this context anyway? You might be surprised that some of the kids who with no physical tell have issues have severe anxiety, depression, ADHD-inattentive type or other issues.

And redshirting is not going to do a thing for these issues.

Your ignorance is showing. Many research studies have shown that the risk of being diagnosed with ADHD is connected to be the youngest in the class. Anxiety can absolutely affect socialization and behavior, especially when mixed with social deficits that may be too subtle to be diagnosable as an ASD. Just be glad that you have a perfect child, PP, and let the rest of us care for our own. The one or two older kids in your child's class pose no threat, except in your own mind.

You are so off base PP. being the youngest in a classroom setting does not mean a higher chance for ADHD or anxiety. Give me a break.

NP. I read the study that showed that a summer bday child was more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD than a fall bday child. The reason, of course, is that the summer bday child will be less mature, less focused, than a fall bday child.

I have two kids with summer bday. Both went on time. DS had a harder time with following directions, but he outgrew it, and now is in a gifted program.

To people who keep posting why they decided to redshirt -- we get it. Most of us are just saying, if you choose to redshirt for whatever reason, just don't be *that* parent who complains that your child is not challenged enough. You made your bed; now please lie in it without whining about it. Thanks.

What about the states that have Dec 31st cut-offs? Wouldn't fall babies be more likely to have ADHD?

Link to this actual research please

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The line isn't that bright, PP. A lot of parents don't discover a child has special needs like dyslexia until they start school or they might suspect some special needs and hold their child back and realize later that their child does not have the issues they thought they might. There are also parents who may suspect their child has issues but never get a diagnosis. What is "totally normal" in this context anyway? You might be surprised that some of the kids who with no physical tell have issues have severe anxiety, depression, ADHD-inattentive type or other issues.

And redshirting is not going to do a thing for these issues.

Your ignorance is showing. Many research studies have shown that the risk of being diagnosed with ADHD is connected to be the youngest in the class. Anxiety can absolutely affect socialization and behavior, especially when mixed with social deficits that may be too subtle to be diagnosable as an ASD. Just be glad that you have a perfect child, PP, and let the rest of us care for our own. The one or two older kids in your child's class pose no threat, except in your own mind.

You are so off base PP. being the youngest in a classroom setting does not mean a higher chance for ADHD or anxiety. Give me a break.

No, there is a well-established correlation between being younger and getting and ADHD diagnosis: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/03/14/kids-with-august-birthdays-are-more-likely-to-get-an-adhd-diagnosis-heres-why/

http://www.cmaj.ca/content/early/2012/03/05/cmaj.111619

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The cutoff is strange here in VA. My friends in NY with kids with fall birthday send their kids to school. Redshirting seems less frequent. If you were born in the calendar year, your kid goes to school whether s/he is 4 or 5. I can't recall anyone holding back a summer birthday.

NY was notorious for children being redshirted. It got so bad that the state changed the rules, requiring approval to redshirt and virtually eliminating redshirting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The cutoff is strange here in VA. My friends in NY with kids with fall birthday send their kids to school. Redshirting seems less frequent. If you were born in the calendar year, your kid goes to school whether s/he is 4 or 5. I can't recall anyone holding back a summer birthday.

NY was notorious for children being redshirted. It got so bad that the state changed the rules, requiring approval to redshirt and virtually eliminating redshirting.

CA is now doing this.

[Anonymous]

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The line isn't that bright, PP. A lot of parents don't discover a child has special needs like dyslexia until they start school or they might suspect some special needs and hold their child back and realize later that their child does not have the issues they thought they might. There are also parents who may suspect their child has issues but never get a diagnosis. What is "totally normal" in this context anyway? You might be surprised that some of the kids who with no physical tell have issues have severe anxiety, depression, ADHD-inattentive type or other issues.

And redshirting is not going to do a thing for these issues.

Your ignorance is showing. Many research studies have shown that the risk of being diagnosed with ADHD is connected to be the youngest in the class. Anxiety can absolutely affect socialization and behavior, especially when mixed with social deficits that may be too subtle to be diagnosable as an ASD. Just be glad that you have a perfect child, PP, and let the rest of us care for our own. The one or two older kids in your child's class pose no threat, except in your own mind.

If a child is diagnosed with any of these issues, redshirting them will not solve the issue. In fact, by redshirting them, you are delaying the professional intervention that would help them. Just being older and anxious or older and depressed or older and ADHD still leaves the child with the issue.

[Anonymous]

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The line isn't that bright, PP. A lot of parents don't discover a child has special needs like dyslexia until they start school or they might suspect some special needs and hold their child back and realize later that their child does not have the issues they thought they might. There are also parents who may suspect their child has issues but never get a diagnosis. What is "totally normal" in this context anyway? You might be surprised that some of the kids who with no physical tell have issues have severe anxiety, depression, ADHD-inattentive type or other issues.

And redshirting is not going to do a thing for these issues.

Your ignorance is showing. Many research studies have shown that the risk of being diagnosed with ADHD is connected to be the youngest in the class. Anxiety can absolutely affect socialization and behavior, especially when mixed with social deficits that may be too subtle to be diagnosable as an ASD. Just be glad that you have a perfect child, PP, and let the rest of us care for our own. The one or two older kids in your child's class pose no threat, except in your own mind.

If a child is diagnosed with any of these issues, redshirting them will not solve the issue. In fact, by redshirting them, you are delaying the professional intervention that would help them. Just being older and anxious or older and depressed or older and ADHD still leaves the child with the issue.

You really have no idea. Kids can receive services in preschool -- sometimes in a more appropriate setting to address those issues. Also, since ADHD is correlated to relative age in kindergarten, redshirting can absolutely prevent some cases of ADHD. Redshirting does not delay services at all, but keeps (some) kids in an environment that is better for them. But of course, you know better than the child's parents, doctors, teachers, and school administrators!

[Anonymous]

Redshirting can prevent ADHD.

Okay, I am getting the popcorn now.

[Anonymous]

And if that is the case, then let's all redshirt everyone so there won't be any more ADHD!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Redshirting can prevent ADHD.

Okay, I am getting the popcorn now.

Glad to know all SN can be resolved by redshirting. Too bad it didn't for my kid.

[Anonymous]

Haven't read much research, have you, PP? It's important, the correlation between sge-for-grade and ADHD.

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Anonymous wrote:Redshirting can prevent ADHD.

Okay, I am getting the popcorn now.

Glad to know all SN can be resolved by redshirting. Too bad it didn't for my kid.

Did I say that this extends to all SN? There is research clearly linking relative age in class to ADHD diagnoses and medicating for ADHD.

Here's just one of numerous studies proving the point: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/130/6/1012.short

Whether or not it is "real" ADHD or a child who just can't meet the expectations of the teachers, I don't know. But for certain kids redshirting can definitely be an appropriate move.

In my case, my child's issue is aggression, which is clearly reduced in a smaller, quieter setting with fewer expectations. So, we will most likely redshirt as he (with the support of his teachers & therapists) grows out the problem. If the problem remains then we can deal with it more methodically rather than parachuting him into a stressful situation where he already is at a disadvantage due to age. There is nothing you people love to jump on more than a kid who hits your kid in school, and then you complain that the parents and teachers aren't doing anything. So freakin judgmental, ignorant, and hypocritical.

[Anonymous]

Smaller and quieter will not be present in the classroom, regardless of whether you redshirt or not.

I am sorry, but redshirting simply doesn't "solve" ADHD. That is a total crock and it is shamefuly that you would suggest it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Smaller and quieter will not be present in the classroom, regardless of whether you redshirt or not.

I am sorry, but redshirting simply doesn't "solve" ADHD. That is a total crock and it is shamefuly that you would suggest it.

Children who are young-for-grade are more likely to be diagnosed with AdHD, statistically speaking. Whether they are over diagnosed, or other children are under diagnosed, is a good discussion. Saying it's a crock is just silly, in view of the numbers.

[Anonymous]

Part of our overmedicated society.

Maybe if people didn't redshirt, the younger part of the class wouldn't feel so anxious.