Cooper Middle School New AAP center

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone has any ideas how Cooper is going to find enough qualified teachers to teach the in coming AAP kids once it has become a center? How about those AAP teachers from Longfellow and Kilmer who no longer are needed once the AAP kids go to Cooper? quote]

^^^Very good point and a question that was asked earlier on in this thread-of course, hard to get past all of the snark to address the substantive and practical issues!!!

Four teachers for AAP is difficult?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone has any ideas how Cooper is going to find enough qualified teachers to teach the in coming AAP kids once it has become a center? How about those AAP teachers from Longfellow and Kilmer who no longer are needed once the AAP kids go to Cooper? quote]

^^^Very good point and a question that was aasked earlier on in this thread-of course, hard to get past all of the snark to address the substantive and practical issues!!!

Four teachers for AAP is difficult?

Well, yes. Those four teachers must speak at least five languages fluently, have PhD's in economics and molecular biology (at a minimum), have taught at MIT and Stanford within the past ten years, and belong to Mensa. What would the point be in hiring ordinary teachers for such extraordinary human specimens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^^It's more the mentality that no one wants to be first, and second because of the Longfellow reputation-they've done it to themselves by being so good and saught after. Can't speak to Kilmer but perhaps same thing.

it's freaking middle school for goodness sakes! two years where kids are mostly worrying about bad skin and what their friends think. at most they'll take 3 courses that even matter going forward (algebra, geometry and a language) and this can be done at any middle school in FCPS.

Precisely. This thread has become hysterical.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads

Well, AAP students are in the same school as GE students. When the AAP students overwhelm the school so the GE students become a minority in their neighborhood school, the GE parents are.very interested in moving the AAP students back to their own school. They would like their neoghboor school to reflect the population of the neighborhood.

Also, AAP is four levels, but you'd never know it on this board. GE students in Level III, advanced math, and just generally high performing have parents who are quite annoyed at the disparate treatment shown towards their children. It sucks knowning students in the same school are getting taught material you know your child could handle, but being told that it's only for the AAP students.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous]I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads[/quote]

Because DCUM provides a really valuable service-- helping GE parents process the 5 stages of grief that accompany being told your child just isn't that bright: denial ("there is no difference between AAP and GE"), anger ("I steer clear of the AAP parents and kids because of the constant aura of superiority that surrounds them), bargaining ("why call it AAP or GE at all? Just offer the best curriculum possible to all kids and call it a day"), depression ("FCPS does not really care about kids") and acceptance. Once their kids are in middle school, most parents have either accepted mediocrity and moved on to the Tweens and Teens board. But for the truly hardcore, they can start the process anew when the TJ a rejection comes in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads

Many parents here, like me, have have kids in both AAP and Gen Ed. We see the disparity and we how the program has been diluted over the years and with so many AAP students in a lot of districts, we're also confused with why we are still busing kids out of their neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads

Well, AAP students are in the same school as GE students. When the AAP students overwhelm the school so the GE students become a minority in their neighborhood school, the GE parents are.very interested in moving the AAP students back to their own school. They would like their neoghboor school to reflect the population of the neighborhood.

Also, AAP is four levels, but you'd never know it on this board. GE students in Level III, advanced math, and just generally high performing have parents who are quite annoyed at the disparate treatment shown towards their children. It sucks knowning students in the same school are getting taught material you know your child could handle, but being told that it's only for the AAP students.

+1000
Everything you just said is entirely accurate. And I guess I don't understand why parents of AAP children feel all other parents should have no say in how their public school system is run.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads[/quote]

Because DCUM provides a really valuable service-- helping GE parents process the 5 stages of grief that accompany being told your child just isn't that bright: denial ("there is no difference between AAP and GE"), anger ("I steer clear of the AAP parents and kids because of the constant aura of superiority that surrounds them), bargaining ("why call it AAP or GE at all? Just offer the best curriculum possible to all kids and call it a day"), depression ("FCPS does not really care about kids") and acceptance. Once their kids are in middle school, most parents have either accepted mediocrity and moved on to the Tweens and Teens board. But for the truly hardcore, they can start the process anew when the TJ a rejection comes in. [/quote]

And in a nutshell, you've just described beautifully why AAP parents are so insufferable. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads

Well, AAP students are in the same school as GE students. When the AAP students overwhelm the school so the GE students become a minority in their neighborhood school, the GE parents are.very interested in moving the AAP students back to their own school. They would like their neoghboor school to reflect the population of the neighborhood.

Also, AAP is four levels, but you'd never know it on this board. GE students in Level III, advanced math, and just generally high performing have parents who are quite annoyed at the disparate treatment shown towards their children. It sucks knowning students in the same school are getting taught material you know your child could handle, but being told that it's only for the AAP students.

+1000
Everything you just said is entirely accurate. And I guess I don't understand why parents of AAP children feel all other parents should have no say in how their public school system is run.

Anger.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads[/quote]

Because DCUM provides a really valuable service-- helping GE parents process the 5 stages of grief that accompany being told your child just isn't that bright: denial ("there is no difference between AAP and GE"), anger ("I steer clear of the AAP parents and kids because of the constant aura of superiority that surrounds them), bargaining ("why call it AAP or GE at all? Just offer the best curriculum possible to all kids and call it a day"), depression ("FCPS does not really care about kids") and acceptance. Once their kids are in middle school, most parents have either accepted mediocrity and moved on to the Tweens and Teens board. But for the truly hardcore, they can start the process anew when the TJ a rejection comes in. [/quote]

And in a nutshell, you've just described beautifully why AAP parents are so insufferable. Thanks![/quote]

#SorryNotSorry. You came to an AAP discussion board. And purposefully make it impossible for parents who want to have a substantive discussion about gifted education to do so by interrupting Every. Single. Conversation. with the exact same anti-AAP screed. It's like trying to eat dinner with a particularly self centered toddler. No matter what the question or issue, everyone has to stop and pay attention to your AAP is evil and AAP kids a brats rant. And since there is no DCUM equivalent of hiring a babysitter so the adults can have a nice dinner with a glass of wine and intelligent conversation, expect to be called on it. PS-- Life is unfair, mostly in Syria, but I'm sure FCPS comes in a close 2nd. But even under these (admittedly) hostile and intolerable circumstances, what do you expect when you direct your name calling and nastiness towards a bunch of elementary school aged kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads

Many parents here, like me, have have kids in both AAP and Gen Ed. We see the disparity and we how the program has been diluted over the years and with so many AAP students in a lot of districts, we're also confused with why we are still busing kids out of their neighborhoods.

That still doesn't answer the question. How will bugging this board, for years apparently, do anything to address your confusion? It just seems like an endless pattern of pestering to elicit a sassy response that allows ypu to remark how that's "in a nutshell" why you hate AAP. So pointless.

[Anonymous]

So, back to the topic. Do people know yet whether Cooper will become the sole AAP center option for 7th graders in the fall of 2016 or will it be the fall of 2017?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why parents with no AAP children spend their time on the AAP threads

Many parents here, like me, have have kids in both AAP and Gen Ed. We see the disparity and we how the program has been diluted over the years and with so many AAP students in a lot of districts, we're also confused with why we are still busing kids out of their neighborhoods.

That still doesn't answer the question. How will bugging this board, for years apparently, do anything to address your confusion? It just seems like an endless pattern of pestering to elicit a sassy response that allows ypu to remark how that's "in a nutshell" why you hate AAP. So pointless.

You assume that "bugging" this board, which I guess is any comment that doesn't applaud the handling of AAP in FCPS, is the only thing I or others are doing about it.

You also assume that a person who questions the wisdom waiting to open a center at a school that already has a healthy Level IV population, like Cooper, until everything is perfectly to the liking of members of the Cooper catchment area, while other centers are bursting at the seams in part to meet the needs of Cooper area AAP kids is the same person who hates AAP. I've got news for you, there are tons of different people making these comments, as they should be, as it involves a decision about how to educate all of our children and spend all of our tax dollars.

When we get to a point where parents whose children are attending AAP centers pay an additional fee for that service, then you might have a point about why others would care to post on this forum. Until then, you're probably going to have to get used to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, back to the topic. Do people know yet whether Cooper will become the sole AAP center option for 7th graders in the fall of 2016 or will it be the fall of 2017?

Allegedly we will find out in February after school board vote.