If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"

[Anonymous]

I have lived in 9 countries.
US schools that are household names:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
then to a lesser degree UC Berkeley, Georgetown and Columbia.

I had never heard of UVA for anyone that cares, even after living in the US for 5 years I never heard anyone talk about it (until I moved the DC of course). Schools that I would now consider excellent such as Northwestern, Duke, Chicago etc would not generally be known outside of the US (to the level of being a household name).

UK universities:
Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College London, London School Economics and London Business school
Trinity in Dublin
St Andrews is considered a bit of a "holiday" university in the UK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have lived in 9 countries.
US schools that are household names:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
then to a lesser degree UC Berkeley, Georgetown and Columbia.

I had never heard of UVA for anyone that cares, even after living in the US for 5 years I never heard anyone talk about it (until I moved the DC of course). Schools that I would now consider excellent such as Northwestern, Duke, Chicago etc would not generally be known outside of the US (to the level of being a household name).

UK universities:
Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College London, London School Economics and London Business school
Trinity in Dublin
St Andrews is considered a bit of a "holiday" university in the UK.

This must not be comments from people coming from Asia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live abroad and know a lot of well educated foreigners. Harvard and MIT are considered the most prestigious. Stanford and Berkeley - yes, but not everyone has heard of them. Same for Princeton, Yale, Caltech, Columbia. Not everyone knows about them, but those who do consider them very close to Harvard. Penn, Johns Hopkins, Michigan... that would be the third level. LACS - nobody has heard of them or cares. People abroad get their repetitional cues from research (e.g. big discoveries, famous scientists, Nobel prizes) not undergrad teaching.

NOBODY abroad knows Michigan or Emory. No need to insert yourselves just because your DC attends these schools. To be honest, other than Ivies, very few people abroad are familiar with American schools. Doesn't mean they are no good, they are just not household names.

Agreed, just like most people world wide don't know what LSE is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live abroad and know a lot of well educated foreigners. Harvard and MIT are considered the most prestigious. Stanford and Berkeley - yes, but not everyone has heard of them. Same for Princeton, Yale, Caltech, Columbia. Not everyone knows about them, but those who do consider them very close to Harvard. Penn, Johns Hopkins, Michigan... that would be the third level. LACS - nobody has heard of them or cares. People abroad get their repetitional cues from research (e.g. big discoveries, famous scientists, Nobel prizes) not undergrad teaching.

NOBODY abroad knows Michigan or Emory. No need to insert yourselves just because your DC attends these schools. To be honest, other than Ivies, very few people abroad are familiar with American schools. Doesn't mean they are no good, they are just not household names.

I haven't mentioned Emory and my kids are in middle school. If admissions and pricing of US colleges does not change, they will go to college abroad. I went to Harvard so I don't care either way. I am telling what I am seeing abroad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have lived in 9 countries.
US schools that are household names:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
then to a lesser degree UC Berkeley, Georgetown and Columbia.

I had never heard of UVA for anyone that cares, even after living in the US for 5 years I never heard anyone talk about it (until I moved the DC of course). Schools that I would now consider excellent such as Northwestern, Duke, Chicago etc would not generally be known outside of the US (to the level of being a household name).

UK universities:
Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College London, London School Economics and London Business school
Trinity in Dublin
St Andrews is considered a bit of a "holiday" university in the UK.

UK - only Oxford and Cambridge.

Some people have heard about ETH (Zurich) and Sorbonne.

[Anonymous]

FWIW Georgetown appears particularly popular with rich Saudis and kids from other Arab countries, and similarly with rich Latin American kids.

[Anonymous]

More people know schools with good football teams and basketball teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have lived in 9 countries.
US schools that are household names:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
then to a lesser degree UC Berkeley, Georgetown and Columbia.

I had never heard of UVA for anyone that cares, even after living in the US for 5 years I never heard anyone talk about it (until I moved the DC of course). Schools that I would now consider excellent such as Northwestern, Duke, Chicago etc would not generally be known outside of the US (to the level of being a household name).

UK universities:
Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College London, London School Economics and London Business school
Trinity in Dublin
St Andrews is considered a bit of a "holiday" university in the UK.

Agree with this totally. Put Oxford up at the level with Harvard in terms of lay awareness. I'd also take out ICL, LBS, Trinity Dublin, and St Andrews - they're all excellent, but definitely not as well known as Oxbridge or even LSE (which for some reason seems to have above par name recognition).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live abroad and know a lot of well educated foreigners. Harvard and MIT are considered the most prestigious. Stanford and Berkeley - yes, but not everyone has heard of them. Same for Princeton, Yale, Caltech, Columbia. Not everyone knows about them, but those who do consider them very close to Harvard. Penn, Johns Hopkins, Michigan... that would be the third level. LACS - nobody has heard of them or cares. People abroad get their repetitional cues from research (e.g. big discoveries, famous scientists, Nobel prizes) not undergrad teaching.

NOBODY abroad knows Michigan or Emory. No need to insert yourselves just because your DC attends these schools. To be honest, other than Ivies, very few people abroad are familiar with American schools. Doesn't mean they are no good, they are just not household names.

I haven't mentioned Emory and my kids are in middle school. If admissions and pricing of US colleges does not change, they will go to college abroad. I went to Harvard so I don't care either way. I am telling what I am seeing abroad.

Michigan is better known in Europe than Asia. Still it is a top 25 school worldwide according to QS and THE. It is more famous than most here at DCUM care to admit. Way more well known than Emory and many of the schools ranked above it in T25 at USNews. Status conscious Asians and Europeans certainly are aware of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have lived in 9 countries.
US schools that are household names:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
then to a lesser degree UC Berkeley, Georgetown and Columbia.

I had never heard of UVA for anyone that cares, even after living in the US for 5 years I never heard anyone talk about it (until I moved the DC of course). Schools that I would now consider excellent such as Northwestern, Duke, Chicago etc would not generally be known outside of the US (to the level of being a household name).

UK universities:
Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College London, London School Economics and London Business school
Trinity in Dublin
St Andrews is considered a bit of a "holiday" university in the UK.

Agree with this totally. Put Oxford up at the level with Harvard in terms of lay awareness. I'd also take out ICL, LBS, Trinity Dublin, and St Andrews - they're all excellent, but definitely not as well known as Oxbridge or even LSE (which for some reason seems to have above par name recognition).

Trinity College in Dublin is very popular with Asians. Lots of them are there as students. LSE not so much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have lived in 9 countries.
US schools that are household names:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT
then to a lesser degree UC Berkeley, Georgetown and Columbia.

I had never heard of UVA for anyone that cares, even after living in the US for 5 years I never heard anyone talk about it (until I moved the DC of course). Schools that I would now consider excellent such as Northwestern, Duke, Chicago etc would not generally be known outside of the US (to the level of being a household name).

UK universities:
Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial College London, London School Economics and London Business school
Trinity in Dublin
St Andrews is considered a bit of a "holiday" university in the UK.

Agree with this totally. Put Oxford up at the level with Harvard in terms of lay awareness. I'd also take out ICL, LBS, Trinity Dublin, and St Andrews - they're all excellent, but definitely not as well known as Oxbridge or even LSE (which for some reason seems to have above par name recognition).

Trinity College in Dublin is very popular with Asians. Lots of them are there as students. LSE not so much.

In terms of public awareness, LSE far out-trumps Trinity College Dublin. I’m gonna go ahead and guess you’re not Asian.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More people know schools with good football teams and basketball teams.

This is so not true outside of US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people know schools with good football teams and basketball teams.

This is so not true outside of US.

Maybe among dweebs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people know schools with good football teams and basketball teams.

This is so not true outside of US.

Maybe among dweebs.

No one outside the US gives a f*** about your shitty college sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people know schools with good football teams and basketball teams.

This is so not true outside of US.

Maybe among dweebs.

No one outside the US gives a f*** about your shitty college sports.

I don’t think even Canadians care that much.